jomijoan

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Help here please!!!!
I cnat promote the "Cool Sister" personality for some reason.
I have all the requirements, i have clicked the button to promote personality but nothing happens.
What should i do?
 

Noscroll

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May 8, 2017
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can we add some type of walkthrough, I don't even know what i'm suppose to be doing here.
Basic strategy is to do activities to gain "topics" while managing your Focus, Stamina, and Health. Focus can be gained by playing video games on your computer, Stamina gained by (napping (1hr), resting (3hr), or sleeping (6hr)), health by the same means as stamina. All three can get a boost by snacking in the kitchen.

The GOAL is to upgrade the archetypes (AT) of the girls you meet- right now that is Diane, Gina, Becky, and Charlie. Gina is the easiest, Becky is the hardest. Gina and Charlie have the most porn content. Each has a different schedule (what time they are around) which can vary from 0600 to 2400/0000 dark, and varies by day of the week. Check every hour of every day to build up a sense of the schedules. As their ATs get upgraded, their schedule may change, and their responses to things will also change. Usually you will also get more porn.

That is the game loop in a nutshell- do activities to get topics, use topics to improve girls, change their ATs to get porn. Lather rinse repeat. Time doesn't matter in the sense that it is endlessly summer.

To change their AT, you need to get /their/ skills up through conversation. Only positive conversations will increase their skills (when you see a +relationship boost in the upper right after the conversation is over). Basic tactic is to use 2 topics listed in their positive attributes, and 1 non-banned topic. This will let you build up a non-banned skill over time. Keep in mind that you will ALSO get skill points based on the topics you use and the conversation bubbles the girl brings up. You might occasionally get a topic from the girl as well. At the bottom of their character card is the list of ATs you can transform them into. Sometimes this is BACKWARDS to an older AT so be careful unless that is your goal! Build the skills you need for the secondary interests that qualify them for the new AT you desire, then 'encourage' that secondary interest. Once they have both as secondary interests, you can promote the new AT. Some ATs require a special scene to promote, for example promoting Popular Sister Becky into either Queen Bee Becky or Less Bitchy Younger Sister Becky requires you be at the Friday night party! NOTE WELL: AT changes only appear /the next day!/ It is not instant, you have to go to sleep and wake up for them to get their new AT.

You start out with only a few options to earn topics dependent on your build (what you picked as your stat in the beginning). Check your bedroom for videogames and porn (computer icon), working out, and posting on social media (maybe), check your bathroom to clean yourself and maybe practice charm, living room when it's empty to watch TV and sometimes play social (bookface) games. Check the interests and bans of the people you meet to make sure you are talking about stuff they like or at least don't hate. If you have a topic and don't want to use it in conversation, you can 'burn' it by clicking on it then clicking on the thinking statue. This will give you xp in its relevant skills, which in the beginning is a good thing to do.

Try to get Videogames, Trivia, and maybe Laziness and Entertainment up as quickly as possible. Videogames lets you play more videogames for focus without getting bored and unlocks the livestreaming job for money. Tivia boosts two core stats which is huge. Laziness lets you nap more for stamina, Entertainment lets you watch more TV.

You can mow the lawn on the weekends for some cash. You can also beg cash from all of your family at a cost in relationship, but they won't ask you for the money back so if you are good at relationship management its an ok source of money.

Later you can sell any photos you get of people (Charlie easiest, Diane when she is a few ATs deep, Becky gets some in one of her late ATs) for a bit of money.

Faster is Videogames 3 and do the livestreaming job in your room. Other skills support this job, and you can buy better camera's to improve the money even more. Energy drinks reduce focus cost, gamer throne reduces the stamina cost.

Your 'chore' is to clean the living room, if you let it get messy Diane will clean for you and you will lose relationship. If you clean it, you get relationship with Diane and occasionally a topic.

Gina's chore is to clean your bathroom. If you clean it you will gain some relationship and a topic occasionally. Try cleaning it when she is there! Also, watching TV very late at night can be beneficial...

Becky's chore is to clean the kitchen. She will only have one or maybe two times a day when you can start a conversation with her, making her the hardest to advance.

Charlie sunbaths on the weekends and can be bribed with a gift card from 1700 on weekdays.

All other characters are not implemented outside of on-off interactions or participation in other characters interactions.

Save files are stored:
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\LocalLow\Night City Productions\Loser
and are currently called "dieina.fire". I mention upthread how to edit them, but for completeness DONT use a text editor, even one as robust as Notepad++. Use a Unity save file editor such as

This is not a visual novel. You may be required to think, explore, or try new things to get different shit to happen. I am sorry if that is not to your taste, plenty of other shit to play if any of this is too much for you.
 
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jomijoan

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Basic strategy is to do activities to gain "topics" while managing your Focus, Stamina, and Health. Focus can be gained by playing video games on your computer, Stamina gained by (napping (1hr), resting (3hr), or sleeping (6hr)), health by the same means as stamina. All three can get a boost by snacking in the kitchen.

The GOAL is to upgrade the archetypes (AT) of the girls you meet- right now that is Diane, Gina, Becky, and Charlie. Gina is the easiest, Becky is the hardest. Gina and Charlie have the most porn content. Each has a different schedule (what time they are around) which can vary from 0600 to 2400/0000 dark, and varies by day of the week. Check every hour of every day to build up a sense of the schedules. As their ATs get upgraded, their schedule may change, and their responses to things will also change. Usually you will also get more porn.

That is the game loop in a nutshell- do activities to get topics, use topics to improve girls, change their ATs to get porn. Lather rinse repeat. Time doesn't matter in the sense that it is endlessly summer.

To change their AT, you need to get /their/ skills up through conversation. Only positive conversations will increase their skills (when you see a +relationship boost in the upper right after the conversation is over). Basic tactic is to use 2 topics listed in their positive attributes, and 1 non-banned topic. This will let you build up a non-banned skill over time. Keep in mind that you will ALSO get skill points based on the topics you use and the conversation bubbles the girl brings up. You might occasionally get a topic from the girl as well. At the bottom of their character card is the list of ATs you can transform them into. Sometimes this is BACKWARDS to an older AT so be careful unless that is your goal! Build the skills you need for the secondary interests that qualify them for the new AT you desire, then 'encourage' that secondary interest. Once they have both as secondary interests, you can promote the new AT. Some ATs require a special scene to promote, for example promoting Popular Sister Becky into either Queen Bee Becky or Less Bitchy Younger Sister Becky requires you be at the Friday night party! NOTE WELL: AT changes only appear /the next day!/ It is not instant, you have to go to sleep and wake up for them to get their new AT.

You start out with only a few options to earn topics dependent on your build (what you picked as your stat in the beginning). Check your bedroom for videogames and porn (computer icon), working out, and posting on social media (maybe), check your bathroom to clean yourself and maybe practice charm, living room when it's empty to watch TV and sometimes play social (bookface) games. Check the interests and bans of the people you meet to make sure you are talking about stuff they like or at least don't hate. If you have a topic and don't want to use it in conversation, you can 'burn' it by clicking on it then clicking on the thinking statue. This will give you xp in its relevant skills, which in the beginning is a good thing to do.

Try to get Videogames, Trivia, and maybe Laziness and Entertainment up as quickly as possible. Videogames lets you play more videogames for focus without getting bored and unlocks the livestreaming job for money. Tivia boosts two core stats which is huge. Laziness lets you nap more for stamina, Entertainment lets you watch more TV.

You can mow the lawn on the weekends for some cash. You can also beg cash from all of your family at a cost in relationship, but they won't ask you for the money back so if you are good at relationship management its an ok source of money.

Later you can sell any photos you get of people (Charlie easiest, Diane when she is a few ATs deep, Becky gets some in one of her late ATs) for a bit of money.

Faster is Videogames 3 and do the livestreaming job in your room. Other skills support this job, and you can buy better camera's to improve the money even more. Energy drinks reduce focus cost, gamer throne reduces the stamina cost.

Your 'chore' is to clean the living room, if you let it get messy Diane will clean for you and you will lose relationship. If you clean it, you get relationship with Diane and occasionally a topic.

Gina's chore is to clean your bathroom. If you clean it you will gain some relationship and a topic occasionally. Try cleaning it when she is there! Also, watching TV very late at night can be beneficial...

Becky's chore is to clean the kitchen. She will only have one or maybe two times a day when you can start a conversation with her, making her the hardest to advance.

Charlie sunbaths on the weekends and can be bribed with a gift card from 1700 on weekdays.

All other characters are not implemented outside of on-off interactions or participation in other characters interactions.

Save files are stored:
C:\Users\%username%\AppData\LocalLow\Night City Productions\Loser
and are currently called "dieina.fire". I mention upthread how to edit them, but for completeness DONT use a text editor, even one as robust as Notepad++. Use a Unity save file editor such as
So do i have to unlock the scene with the older sister for her AT change?
If yes where can i finf it?
 

khumak

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Is there a trick to upgrading from Bartender Sister to Over Affectionate Sister? As far as I can tell I have all of the requirements and it does let me pick the upgrade event but then the next day she's still a bartender sister.
 
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ell

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Is there a trick to upgrading from Bartender Sister to Over Affectionate Sister? As far as I can tell I have all of the requirements and it does let me pick the upgrade event but then the next day she's still a bartender sister.
Same happening to me too
 

Noscroll

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Is there a trick to upgrading from Bartender Sister to Over Affectionate Sister? As far as I can tell I have all of the requirements and it does let me pick the upgrade event but then the next day she's still a bartender sister.
There is a special event needed to go from BT to OAS. The upgrade button should not appear or be available except during the special event needed. If it IS available, that is a bug! Don't press it! Might screw things up.

So do i have to unlock the scene with the older sister for her AT change?
If yes where can i finf it?
There is no special scene to go from older sister to cool sister. Simply press the button then go to sleep to the next day to see the change.
 
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ell

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There is a special event needed to go from BT to OAS. The upgrade button should not appear or be available except during the special event needed. If it IS available, that is a bug! Don't press it! Might screw things up.



There is no special scene to go from older sister to cool sister. Simply press the button then go to sleep to the next day to see the change.
please provide your save, I am pressing the button during the event even then its not working.
 

DaddyWest

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Aug 15, 2019
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This game seems like it's all grind with no payoff. There isn't a progression of affection. It seems like your family hates you. It would be nice to get a hug or a kiss or a crotch rub or something...
 

ell

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May 26, 2017
87
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This game seems like it's all grind with no payoff. There isn't a progression of affection. It seems like your family hates you. It would be nice to get a hug or a kiss or a crotch rub or something...
True lol
 

DaddyWest

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Aug 15, 2019
8
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Oh my, this game is literally unplayable. On so many levels.
  1. First and foremost: the UI is giving me cancer! Inconsistent, too many colors, too many different font sizes (from "too small, can't read" to "in your face!") etc. -- I hate it!
  2. No clues whatsoever on what to do. Can't find a task list or hints.
  3. Way too many stats to check/improve/work on
  4. Music is changing constantly if you move from one room to another, this is so annoying
  5. In some rooms (i.e. empty Living room) you can see some kind of interface shining through
  6. Many more things I already forgot because I rage quit.
I'm not playing this anymore. No way.
It took a little getting used to, but I started to enjoy the game until I played it for hours and Gina came home drunk, then she passed out and I carried her to bed... No payoff. We can probably all seduce a woman faster in real life, with less struggle and effort.
 

Noscroll

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This game seems like it's all grind with no payoff. There isn't a progression of affection. It seems like your family hates you. It would be nice to get a hug or a kiss or a crotch rub or something...
It is a slow burn. They start off family, so you know not randomly fucking you.

Older Sister Gina will give you a hug if you help clean the bathroom while she is there. At the end of her AT line (so far) Overly Affectionate Sister Gina will spend hours kissing you, let you massage her tits, give you a handjob in the bathroom, and let you get feel her up if you go visit her at her job in the bar. In between those, blackout drunk Gina will let you molest her in various ways depending on your skills and lust.

Becky stays pretty cold to you until these last two ATs, and even then not much. Dev must hate her or something.

Diane barely fucks her husband, and is frigid to boot, so yeah she isn't going after you for sure. Most is taking some slightly racy (topless, from the back only) photos in the living room when she has progressed a few ATs.

Charlie is pretty quick, once she gets to Reawakened Widow she will make out with you / give you a handsy / let you go down on her in her house, assuming you have the skills and don't get cock blocked by Jessie.

When you get stealth up, you can peek on folks in the bathrooms if they leave the door unlocked. Leaving the door unlocked is AT dependent, only Gina does right from the beginning. More stealth means different scenes in the bathroom, as well as some ATs will change the bathroom scenes or options.
 
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Noscroll

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please provide your save, I am pressing the button during the event even then its not working.
My save will be no use, its at the end of the AT chain. Go to the Dev's discord and report the bug, cause that is what it sounds like.
 

Adoringfan

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Dec 17, 2016
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How the hell do you unlock ATs? It just seems like the same endless grind with no changes whatsoever.
 

Johny Alfa

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Oct 7, 2017
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Yep. I confirm a bug as well. I had Gina as BTS AT, i alredy changed secondary interest to Broterlycomplex and Quicksotic. after loaded saved game today. She back to cool sister with, brotherlycomplex and quicksotic secondary interest. she even kept the interest get during the massages. everything except her AT that switched back.
 

Johny Alfa

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Oct 7, 2017
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How the hell do you unlock ATs? It just seems like the same endless grind with no changes whatsoever.
For ahetype you have to have all 3 interest, as you only can have 2 secondary interest one must be common in old and new archetype. so its a slow navigating between personalities, step by step. To gain secondary interest you need the realted skills on 100% show on her character sheet, than talk with her to "encourage new interest". Well to increase skill to 100% you need talk with her and use topics it has the label and dont have any of her banned red label. Pretty much direct a topic into what she likes so she pay attention and listen, but also widen her interest. Now to you just need generate and select topics...:)
 

Adoringfan

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I have all 3 things lit up for cool sister and need 80 relationship points and I have 100 and it's not triggering.
 
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