VN Ren'Py Lost at Birth [Ch. 9 CE Part 2] [V19]

[memonto_mori]

Normally I didn't write this much your choices in the game don't do anything it forces you to the scane I think the game is going right kinetic novel it's very frustrating

 

[Dogorti]

I am really surprised by the complaints about the lack of real choices in this game, when in reality 90% of VN in this forum have the illusion of choice, I can only think of two games where your decisions really change the game completely, and that's "our red string" and "summer scent" the rest of the games has a higher or lower level of "important" choices but choices that really matters? I can only think of those two.

 

[Simulacrum29]

I am really surprised by the complaints about the lack of real choices in this game, when in reality 90% of VN in this forum have the illusion of choice, I can only think of two games where your decisions really change the game completely, and that's "our red string" and "summer scent" the rest of the games has a higher or lower level of "important" choices but choices that really matters? I can only think of those two.

there is a difference with "illusion of choice" and "fuck you, i dont give a fuck about your choice" like it is here.
most of the games i played, here on this site, are capable to accept a no if you dont want an LI,

if Cass is a cornerstone of your story and you need her, dont make her an insufferable disgusting cunt in the first 5 seconds of the game. novel concept i know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

I am really surprised by the complaints about the lack of real choices in this game, when in reality 90% of VN in this forum have the illusion of choice, I can only think of two games where your decisions really change the game completely, and that's "our red string" and "summer scent" the rest of the games has a higher or lower level of "important" choices but choices that really matters? I can only think of those two.

We don't expect whole another branching, also yes most of the games has illusion of of choice but they create that illusion by deviating story according to your choices, they don't put next scene whatever your choice was. Also, almost all, at least worthy to mention, games is very respectful for your LI choices. If you refuse a LI, they at least skip scenes with them not put BJ right after you refuse them. I really don't get it, we don't expect MC moves to another city, change everything related to him etc. All we want options, of course within reason, and respectful storyline according to our choices.

 

[Dogorti]

We don't expect whole another branching, also yes most of the games has illusion of of choice but they create that illusion by deviating story according to your choices, they don't put next scene whatever your choice was. Also, almost all, at least worthy to mention, games is very respectful for your LI choices. If you refuse a LI, they at least skip scenes with them not put BJ right after you refuse them. I really don't get it, we don't expect MC moves to another city, change everything related to him etc. All we want options, of course within reason, and respectful storyline according to our choices.

there is a difference with "illusion of choice" and "fuck you, i dont give a fuck about your choice" like it is here.
most of the games i played, here on this site, are capable to accept a no if you dont want an LI,

if Cass is a cornerstone of your story and you need her, dont make her an insufferable disgusting cunt in the first 5 seconds of the game. novel concept i know. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah, I suppose I understand your frustration. I guess it doesn't affect me because I'm interested in cass that type of unhinged woman is a good fuck

 

[Simulacrum29]

Cass could be a real good character but dev blew it by having her starting in full swing, and blabing about all her previous lovers and bullshit, i simply dont want and/or need to know, which the further it went started to contradict the things she said prior.

 

[goulet1995]

Yeah, I suppose I understand your frustration. I guess it doesn't affect me because I'm interested in cass that type of unhinged woman is a good fuck

i dont mind her but i 100% want to keep her away from the daughter 1 character like her is ok to an extent so i dont want her corupting the other LI's especially the daghter.

 

[RNasc4444]

We don't expect whole another branching, also yes most of the games has illusion of of choice but they create that illusion by deviating story according to your choices, they don't put next scene whatever your choice was. Also, almost all, at least worthy to mention, games is very respectful for your LI choices. If you refuse a LI, they at least skip scenes with them not put BJ right after you refuse them. I really don't get it, we don't expect MC moves to another city, change everything related to him etc. All we want options, of course within reason, and respectful storyline according to our choices.

I mean you don't see me, or anyone else, crying like a little bitch on a public forum because I can't just kick Justine out of the house, divorce her or skip having sex with her at the end of chapter 3 even if I feel repulsed by her. Even though I put my money on the game I still can't muster up that kind of sense of entitlement. But to each his own I guess.

You could always move on to another "non-Kinetic novel" where your choices "matter".

 

[goulet1995]

I mean you don't see me, or anyone else, crying like a little bitch on a public forum because I can't just kick Justine out of the house, divorce her or skip having sex with her at the end of chapter 3 even if I feel repulsed by her. Even though I put my money on the game I still can't muster that kind of sense of entitlement. But to each his own I guess.

You could always move on to another "non-Kinetic novel" where your choices "matter".

feel like conparing your wife and a casual hookup aren the same thing the wife i think you would expect to take longer for an option to leave her.

 

[Nadinengt]

Since this is fairly new, how far can we go with the daughter right now?

 

[Simulacrum29]

I mean you don't see me, or anyone else, crying like a little bitch on a public forum because I can't just kick Justine out of the house, divorce her or skip having sex with her at the end of chapter 3 even if I feel repulsed by her. Even though I put my money on the game I still can't muster up that kind of sense of entitlement. But to each his own I guess.

You could always move on to another "non-Kinetic novel" where your choices "matter".

yeah i only she you bitching about nothing and just in case you have not noticed, the game does not have the kinetic tag

 

[RNasc4444]

i think you would expect to take longer for an option to leave her.

You just made my point for me. Can you maybe, I don't know, consider the mere possibility, that there is a reason why you can't opt-out of the Cass or even Justine paths just yet?

I mean we both want the same thing I guess, more options, right? I want Justine out of the AVN, you want Cass out. None of us is getting what they want right now, so maybe do what I do and crtl-skip all the content you don't enjoy moving forward.

 

[goulet1995]

You just made my point for me. Can you maybe, I don't know, consider the mere possibility, that there is a reason why you can't opt-out of the Cass or even Justine paths just yet?

I mean we both want the same thing I guess, more options, right? I want Justine out of the AVN, you want Cass out. None of us is getting what they want right now, so maybe do what I do and crtl-skip all the content you don't enjoy moving forward.

i wasnt the one complaining i just pointed out that i dont think it was a good comparison

 

[Simulacrum29]

You just made my point for me. Can you maybe, I don't know, consider the mere possibility, that there is a reason why you can't opt-out of the Cass or even Justine paths just yet?

I mean we both want the same thing I guess, more options, right? I want Justine out of the AVN, you want Cass out. None of us is getting what they want right now, so maybe do what I do and crtl-skip all the content you don't enjoy moving forward.

The difference is one of them is connected to the MC by place of residency, by law, and a shared history.

The other is a whore you met once, talked to a few times tops, told her no the first time she came on to you. Then she calls you again and MC is forced to go to her instead of ending the call just to tell her no a second time.
And now he is forced again to call her, to ask her about relationship advice?
She has no qualifications to answer that question, non.
She is not trustworthy, she already displayed on multiple occasions that she doesn't give a single fuck about the MCs relationships.
he could have asked a stranger on the street and would probably get better advice then asking a self proclaimed serial monogamist (btw thats code for cant keep a stable relationship). Cass is the fucking last person an the planet a MC that is not on her path would and should ask. Hell, talking to a Wall would produce better results.

 

[RNasc4444]

The difference is one of them is connected to the MC by place of residency, by law, and a shared history.

The other is a whore you met once, talked to a few times tops, told her no the first time she came on to you. Then she calls you again and MC is forced to go to her instead of ending the call just to tell her no a second time.
And now he is forced again to call her, to ask her about relationship advice?
She has no qualifications to answer that question, non.
She is not trustworthy, she already displayed on multiple occasions that she doesn't give a single fuck about the MCs relationships.
he could have asked a stranger on the street and would probably get better advice then asking a self proclaimed serial monogamist (btw thats code for cant keep a stable relationship). Cass is the fucking last person an the planet a MC that is not on her path would and should ask. Hell, talking to a Wall would produce better results.

I disagree. Cass is an unbiased third party with no "skin in the game". Someone who doesn't know the MC very well and is unlikely to judge him for being tempted by his own daughter. She is the perfect person to consult. The last people I would talk to, personally, would be my wife, my relatives and my friends. And like Cass mentioned (another great piece of advice that speaks volumes about her character), the best option would be seeking pofessional help but that's out of the question.

Whether you like the character or not, going to Cass makes absolute perfect sense to anyone exercising logical thinking.

I would, again, advise you to either ctrl-skip the content you dislike, move on to another game, or maybe reach out to the dev on twitter or discord and provide them with your feedback. I'm sure it would be appreciated

 

[Simulacrum29]

I disagree. Cass is an unbiased third party with no "skin in the game". Someone who doesn't know the MC very well and is unlikely to judge him for being tempted by his own daughter. She is the perfect person to consult. The last people I would talk to, personally, would be my wife, my relatives and my friends. And like Cass mentioned (another great piece of advice that speaks volumes about her character), the best option would be seeking pofessional help but that's out of the question.

Whether you like the character or not, going to Cass makes absolute perfect sense to anyone exercising logical thinking.

I would, again, advise you to either ctrl-skip the content you dislike, move on to another game, or maybe reach out to the dev on twitter or discord and provide them with your feedback. I'm sure it would be appreciated

could not get one sentence out without being wrong, Cass is anything but an unbiased third party, she wants to fuck the MC, while he is married, she doesnt give a flying fuck about his relationships, or she would not contact him all the fucking time to fuck him.

 

[Darkrift411]

So, this is the "Complete Edition". Are there "Incomplete Editions" out there? Or "Partial Editions"? What exactly does this mean? I see the word complete and that makes me think it is finished, but without a completed tag and no text here in threads that support that thought.

 

[MOAR Cowbell]

So, this is the "Complete Edition". Are there "Incomplete Editions" out there? Or "Partial Editions"? What exactly does this mean? I see the word complete and that makes me think it is finished, but without a completed tag and no text here in threads that support that thought.

This is quote is taken from their itch.io page

With the 'Complete Edition' you get:
-Animations.
-Extra scene at the end of each chapter.
-Extra content in the "extra" tab in the options menu.
-Support the game.

 

[roxyt482]

V19XX There're some issues with the variable date_CC, sometimes in the conditions it's written differently (date_cc in ch03_sc10, date_CC ! in ch05) so it appears false even if it's not

 

[TheSidewinder]

It seems you are correct. It should always be date_CC
I will fix that, has probably happen because the variables are case sensitive and I forgot from one chapter to another the exact name of the variable and just assumed it was date_cc.
Thank you for letting me know!

Just a note, "date_cc" appears in 3 files, all in ./scripts/ch03/ folder:
ch03_sc07 twice
ch03_sc08 once
ch03_sc10 once

(I changed them all to "date_CC" in my install and that seems to have fixed the problem.)