VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Pugthulhu]

Honestly though, this would have to be in the final chapter because once he reached that level, all the shit would stop, or he would walk out.

Exactly, the game would not be nearly as good if the MC grew a backbone and stopped over reacting to everything and decided to sit down and discuss things calmly when they happened.

Then if he wanted to turn that into a perfect life with Lacey he would have to send Mia on a long walk down a short pier.

 

[DeviantFun]

Agreed. My hope is that with this whole "MC Healing" in Act 3, that maybe we see him act more like a man rather than a emotional simp that caves. I would love to see him put his foot down AND stay to it, to seriously show some force in his position.

The Mc healing we are hinted at is "letting things go", which, roughly translated means "If you get fucked in the ass, accept that your asshole is gaping and move on".

Look I said it often, I am sort of alright with him being weak to Lacey even if it is overplayed, what I can't accept is him being weak to everyone else, from Mia to Isaac to <insert character name>.

Even when he discovers that Anna, HIS BEST FRIEND, knew about Mia plans he goes "I am disappointed".
My man, throw those 2 out of the house until they come back with a serious explanation and ask for forgiveness.

Jeanette fucks him over with Kelly? same stuff.
Barty? "I am not the same" "I am going to get violent"....does absoutely jack shit aside from calling in favours, once again.

When he came out from the Barty fake and everyone was in fear... I want to see him command that level of respect, not from rage, but from controlled and tempered focus of will, of determination to see HIS will be done and for all to fall to the ground to his demeanor.

The fact is that they TELL us he is capable of it, but we never saw it once.
That scene at least had a couple of real PTSD effects written into it, I liked it, too bad it ends up with him leaving.

I know that sounds fanciful, but he already has their hearts and their sexual desires, it wouldn't take much for him to find a backbone and reel in everything else, if he could only... find that backbone.

Honestly though, this would have to be in the final chapter because once he reached that level, all the shit would stop, or he would walk out.

Look it would have been awesome to see the LI fall in love with him while he changes, noticing how better as a "man" (I would say adult) he is becoming and how it could spark interest, especially in Veronica and....Mia .

Not every woman should like the same type of man, no? Show us some facets of the guy which is not the "super goofy kind to everyone even if they fuck up his family" guy.

I hadn't said something before, but it really bothered me that nobody in the game stopped and ask. Why the hell is Mia responding to Lacey the way she did. She had to know Lacey thought she was texting the MC. Them Mia continues to do Mia things and nobody calls her out on it.

We don't know how Lacey and Mia generally communicate, considering Mia wonderful sense of humor it could have been the normality.
My speculation was that Mia was genuinely angry at Lacey due to jealousy that would have lead to the crash that we see in act 2, but it was sort of canned.

But yeah it is definitely weird, Lacey reaction (teenage girl style) and Mia communication style (but she is "sassy" right?)

As for the Vegas speculation...
In all seriousness, I think a likely outcome is that things go very well. MC and Lacey grow closer and Mia is all nice and things are perfect. Then Lacey convinces Mia to come out of her shell and chare the MC with her. It's a beautiful night. Mia finally finds pleasure with someone. Then as everyone is lying together in bliss she says something she will later playoff as graveyard humor. Something like "Do you think my first time was as good as yours Lacey?". Lacey will say something without realizing how the MC is feeling after that comment and everything will blow up. The MC will storm off and probably stay the night in Janette's room. (I really wanted to say he would find Kelly was in a room next door and stay with her but I decide not to).

From the recent patreon post, Vegas should be a good moment.

Didn't you find it funny that in their "honeymoon" trip they bring Mia but thinking about bringing Anna is "too much"?
Horrible friends, MC was a scumbag here.

 

[Joeymatt]

Any update on when Act 3 will be released

 

[Pugthulhu]

The problem with this is that it would be....trite.

There are several topics still open between MC and Lacey and I'd rather see them fixing them before going into other stuff or simple shock value moments.

We got the shape of the story, now we need the depth.

I agree. Act 2 saw a more grounded Lacey. Seriously what was the worst thing that Lacey did in Act 2 that hurt the MC? Everything in Act 2 was either the MC getting hurt by his how thoughts or someone else.

Everyone here loves bashing on Lacey, but I've said the game is evolving. I'm sure she will make a mistake, but overall I don't think Lacey's actions are the threat to the relationship that they were in Act 1.

Heck I bet how different she was in Act 2 can be credited to all the therapy she's been working so hard on and the anti-depressants.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I agree. Act 2 saw a more grounded Lacey. Seriously what was the worst thing that Lacey did in Act 2 that hurt the MC? Everything in Act 2 was either the MC getting hurt by his how thoughts or someone else.

Everyone here loves bashing on Lacey, but I've said the game is evolving. I'm sure she will make a mistake, but overall I don't think Lacey's actions are the threat to the relationship that they were in Act 1.

Heck I bet how different she was in Act 2 can be credited to all the therapy she's been working so hard on and the anti-depressants.

Agree on the sentiment, but... theres always a but. If therapy can change her that much in a few session, the issue was really easy to solve, meaning why go to such extreme acts of Act1?, and the antidepresants take a lot more time to show a result so stable (if i dont remember wrong it was mentioned something like 6 months to a year).

 

[DeviantFun]

I agree. Act 2 saw a more grounded Lacey. Seriously what was the worst thing that Lacey did in Act 2 that hurt the MC? Everything in Act 2 was either the MC getting hurt by his how thoughts or someone else.

Everyone here loves bashing on Lacey, but I've said the game is evolving. I'm sure she will make a mistake, but overall I don't think Lacey's actions are the threat to the relationship that they were in Act 1.

Heck I bet how different she was in Act 2 can be credited to all the therapy she's been working so hard on and the anti-depressants.

Probably the meds, even if they should shot her sex drive, therapy can surely have some short term effects but it is a long ride for someone like her.

There are a few things that she does in act 2 that are obviously not great:

• Keeping Mia around after the promotion party fiasco
• Joking around with Mia about college (the graveyard humor is out of place here I made several posts about that)
• Inviting Mia to the KW after what she did to MC, again (I am fine if you want to keep your shitty friend that wants you to OD, but don't force her on your spouse)
• Spiraling at the KW, it should be MC happy prize for letting you kiss/blow/fuck another guy, she made it about herself, suck it up and "let things go" (hehehehehe)
• Not being very clear about sanitizing the games so MC can enjoy them without having to think about her fucking him over for 18 years total
• Inviting Mia to Vegas instead of going alone with MC for their *honeymoon*
• Getting all pissy with Kelly after SHE pushed MC to fuck other people
• Putting MC on the spot at the beginning of KW, it should be his relaxing and happy moment
• Keep on forcing MC to go with other folks even after he said he didn't want to
• Not being honest about her past

But overall, her growth is undeniable and she is my favourite character.

Any update on when Act 3 will be released

From a patreon post, probably before the winter holidays.

Agree on the sentiment, but... theres always a but. If therapy can change her that much in a few session, the issue was really easy to solve, meaning why go to such extreme acts of Act1?, and the antidepresants take a lot more time to show a result so stable (if i dont remember wrong it was mentioned something like 6 months to a year).

It depends from person to person, but max I have seen is a couple of weeks, shortest I have seen is days.

6 months is quite a long time.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

It depends from person to person, but max I have seen is a couple of weeks, shortest I have seen is days.

6 months is quite a long time.

Its in the materials, as you like to say.

But im refering to the stable mood she shows-ish in Act 2. Antidepresants take quite some time to get you in a continuous stable phase.

If she was shown having a difference of attitude, mixing some of Lacey act 1 treatment, i would accept it, as it would mean the ups and downs of the medicine taking effect. But as she act that much grounded and stable during almost all of Act 2, its like the antidepressants have thrown her all the way to full benefits in what it feels like a couple of days. (We dont know exactly when she starts taking them, but the change in attitude is really abrupt and coincides mostly with the early part of Act 2 and Dianne dialogue.)

And for the quick search i did.
Initial effects

• You may start to feel some improvements in areas like sleep or appetite within the first one to two weeks.

Full effect

• It can take longer for the full therapeutic effect to be noticeable, often between 6 to 8 weeks.
• For anxiety disorders, it may take 4 to 6 weeks to see improvement and up to 12 weeks for the full effect.

 

[Pugthulhu]

The Mc healing we are hinted at is "letting things go", which, roughly translated means "If you get fucked in the ass, accept that your asshole is gaping and move on".

I've said it before, I am all for the MC learning to heal and "let things go". But don't get me wrong. Letting go is not bending over and taking it in the ass.
Letting go is being able to accept that you can't change the things that have happened in the past. And I'm not talking about recent past, I'm talking about their time apart.
And letting go is certainly not accepting things that happen without getting mad and standing up for yourself.
The MC has a problem with conflict and confrontation and healing not only means being able to let go, but it also means learning how to stand up and confront the things in the present and protect yourself.

We have seen what looks like Lacey having success in her healing. Now we need to see some of that from the MC.

Not every woman should like the same type of man, no? Show us some facets of the guy which is not the "super goofy kind to everyone even if they fuck up his family" guy.

I know right. I hate AVN logic where every girl in the game no matter their age of relation to the MC has to be madly in love with the MC.

We don't know how Lacey and Mia generally communicate, considering Mia wonderful sense of humor it could have been the normality.
My speculation was that Mia was genuinely angry at Lacey due to jealousy that would have lead to the crash that we see in act 2, but it was sort of canned.

But yeah it is definitely weird, Lacey reaction (teenage girl style) and Mia communication style (but she is "sassy" right?)

True. We don't know alot of how they interact. Mia may respond to Lacey's text like that all the time and this time Lacey had a Lacey moment and didn't notice. I'm not willing to accept that Mia wasn't doing a little bit of sabotage there, but I can accept that maybe she wasn't doing anything different than her normal.

From the recent patreon post, Vegas should be a good moment.

It would be refreshing if Vegas could just be a good time for them before they come home to the train wreck that's building.


And on last thing. Is Will.
For someone who isn't yet replaying the game, I have gone back and rewatched different scenes from my pages upon pages of save files and I read something that I missed the first time.
When Will shows up at the end talking to Lacey all nice and respectable and then Mia is telling Anna about the Vegas trip they start talking about Will.
Anna says the only time a guy does that is if he wants to get laid. Mia asks who he has his eye on and Anna says he's been hanging around alot with that new blond girl in the document pool.
The blond girl that fucked Barty? I'm not certain what FV/Barty's plan is, but considering Lacey has used Will to try to make MC jealous I'm thinking the next deep fake will be Lacey and Will to make it more believable.

 

[Pugthulhu]

Agree on the sentiment, but... theres always a but. If therapy can change her that much in a few session, the issue was really easy to solve, meaning why go to such extreme acts of Act1?, and the antidepresants take a lot more time to show a result so stable (if i dont remember wrong it was mentioned something like 6 months to a year).

I admit that the therapy comment was a joke directed at the anti-clinic anti-therapy crowd.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

I admit that the therapy comment was a joke directed at the anti-clinic anti-therapy crowd.

My bad then, i didnt caught that as a joke, thought that you were attributing Lacey change to that for real. I mean... that has to have contributed, but its a really fast change to give it credit only to that.

 

[DeviantFun]

Its in the materials, as you like to say.

But im refering to the stable mood she shows-ish in Act 2. Antidepresants take quite some time to get you in a continuous stable phase.

If she was shown having a difference of attitude, mixing some of Lacey act 1 treatment, i would accept it, as it would mean the ups and downs of the medicine taking effect. But as she act that much grounded and stable during almost all of Act 2, its like the antidepressants have thrown her all the way to full benefits in what it feels like a couple of days. (We dont know exactly when she starts taking them, but the change in attitude is really abrupt and coincides mostly with the early part of Act 2 and Dianne dialogue.)

And for the quick search i did.
Initial effects

• You may start to feel some improvements in areas like sleep or appetite within the first one to two weeks.

Full effect

• It can take longer for the full therapeutic effect to be noticeable, often between 6 to 8 weeks.
• For anxiety disorders, it may take 4 to 6 weeks to see improvement and up to 12 weeks for the full effect.

i stand corrected then, I probably couldn't recognize the "full effect".

In any case, they are still quicker than therapy and maybe Lacey is benefitting from even a partial therapeutic effect still.

I've said it before, I am all for the MC learning to heal and "let things go". But don't get me wrong. Letting go is not bending over and taking it in the ass.
Letting go is being able to accept that you can't change the things that have happened in the past. And I'm not talking about recent past, I'm talking about their time apart.
And letting go is certainly not accepting things that happen without getting mad and standing up for yourself.
The MC has a problem with conflict and confrontation and healing not only means being able to let go, but it also means learning how to stand up and confront the things in the present and protect yourself.

We have seen what looks like Lacey having success in her healing. Now we need to see some of that from the MC.

I hope you are right and we see this direction, acceptance is very different from forgiveness.

I know right. I hate AVN logic where every girl in the game no matter their age of relation to the MC has to be madly in love with the MC.

Heh, I don't even mind when it is in more "silly" settings, and I also don't mind a bit of power fantasy going on.

But I'd rather have seen some gradual stuff or different aspects of Mc being "loved", a few examples:

• Jeanette is fine like this, she likes a kind and thoughtful man who will treat her like a subslut in private
• Anna is sort of the same but she is more attracted to some of his more childish behaviour, loves taking care of him
• Veronica starts liking him for his looks, but gets swoon by his strong competence and work ethic (promotion to exec) + him showing that he can deliver when faced with danger
• Kelly due to their strong connection, they just click (this is actually in the game)
• Beth seeing him as the cool friend of his older brother
• Yue seeing him as the forbidden fruit / workplace crush (work together + he is now director)
• Mia starts liking him as a person seeing how he takes care of Lacey but then starts liking him because he can be very cocky (playfully) and match her "sassy jokes" (in my country you would be considered an asshole but I guess that is cultural)
• Winifred saw his dick by chance in the bathroom and wants a taste of it

And yeah some of these relationship could and should have different depth.

True. We don't know alot of how they interact. Mia may respond to Lacey's text like that all the time and this time Lacey had a Lacey moment and didn't notice. I'm not willing to accept that Mia wasn't doing a little bit of sabotage there, but I can accept that maybe she wasn't doing anything different than her normal.

Mia is definitely sabotaging, even when she is standing still and not speaking a word.

It would be refreshing if Vegas could just be a good time for them before they come home to the train wreck that's building.

Anna has been left alone (easy target) and FV had time to prepare a new video, so we will see.

And on last thing. Is Will.
For someone who isn't yet replaying the game, I have gone back and rewatched different scenes from my pages upon pages of save files and I read something that I missed the first time.
When Will shows up at the end talking to Lacey all nice and respectable and then Mia is telling Anna about the Vegas trip they start talking about Will.
Anna says the only time a guy does that is if he wants to get laid. Mia asks who he has his eye on and Anna says he's been hanging around alot with that new blond girl in the document pool.
The blond girl that fucked Barty? I'm not certain what FV/Barty's plan is, but considering Lacey has used Will to try to make MC jealous I'm thinking the next deep fake will be Lacey and Will to make it more believable.

Yeah the hints are there (last conversation of the act 2 when FV and Will are looking at the girls in the pool) that the blonde that needs money at Will's work is her.

Will could very well be in the next video, but then FV cards will be in the open and the girls will be wary of him so who knows.
Maybe a WillxAnna that is well done, or a WillxLacey that covers the work party night, who knows.

 

[Pugthulhu]

There are a few things that she does in act 2 that are obviously not great:

• Keeping Mia around after the promotion party fiasco
• Joking around with Mia about college (the graveyard humor is out of place here I made several posts about that)
• Inviting Mia to the KW after what she did to MC, again (I am fine if you want to keep your shitty friend that wants you to OD, but don't force her on your spouse)
• Spiraling at the KW, it should be MC happy prize for letting you kiss/blow/fuck another guy, she made it about herself, suck it up and "let things go" (hehehehehe)
• Not being very clear about sanitizing the games so MC can enjoy them without having to think about her fucking him over for 18 years total
• Inviting Mia to Vegas instead of going alone with MC for their *honeymoon*
• Getting all pissy with Kelly after SHE pushed MC to fuck other people
• Putting MC on the spot at the beginning of KW, it should be his relaxing and happy moment
• Keep on forcing MC to go with other folks even after he said he didn't want to
• Not being honest about her past

But overall, her growth is undeniable and she is my favourite character.

Fair enough. While on their own non of these seem like a big mistake, they can add up. Obviously the biggest mistake her is keeping Mia around.

As for taking Mia to Vegas, I put that all on the MC and Jeanette. Jeanette is the one who said "have her bring a friend" and the MC was the one who told Mia about it and that Lacey could inviter her. I would be surprised to find Mia convinced Jeanette to invite the MC and let them bring a +1.

As for a couple of the other things... Don't get me started on just how fucked up KW was. I don't really blame Lacey for that though. Mia and who ever that was pretending to be Veronica.

Now for a question.
I notice on the timeline during KW it mention Veronica going to her room for a "meeting". I wasn't sure what to think of that at the time. Does anyone think there was something more to that than a business meeting?

 

[Pugthulhu]

Anna has been left alone (easy target) and FV had time to prepare a new video, so we will see.

Yeah the hints are there (last conversation of the act 2 when FV and Will are looking at the girls in the pool) that the blonde that needs money at Will's work is her.

Will could very well be in the next video, but then FV cards will be in the open and the girls will be wary of him so who knows.
Maybe a WillxAnna that is well done, or a WillxLacey that covers the work party night, who knows.

I hadn't even thought about him using Anna instead of Lacey. Hmmm

I don't think a WillxLacey tape will cover the work party though. FV has already told will to cut his hair and clean himself up. I'm guessing he will have a different character model in Act 3. And I think that somehow maybe FV knows that Lacey said she didn't like will because of his long hair and stoner attitude. So he will wait for will to be seen more as having cleaned up and more like what Lacey likes and then they will hit him with a WillxLacey video.

 

[Maviarab]

if he could only...

Why the hell is Mia responding to Lacey the way she did. She had to know Lacey thought she was texting the MC. Them Mia continues to do Mia things and nobody calls her out on it.

One does wonder....

does absoutely jack shit

And Jack skipped town...right?

Everyone here loves bashing on Lacey,

All lies...Lies and slander I tell ya!

It depends from person to person, but max I have seen is a couple of weeks, shortest I have seen is days.

No anti-deprassant works in a matter of days. may start to stablise someones mood, but they do not work that quickly. That's just bs. Can be up to 3 months to fully get into the system and actually start working correctly.

Heck I bet how different she was in Act 2 can be credited to all the therapy she's been working so hard on and the anti-depressants.

Yeah no....been less than 2 weeks sionce act 2 started...that's one visit...and she never made that imo.

I admit that the therapy comment was a joke directed at the anti-clinic anti-therapy crowd.

Godamnit! lmao....

 

[DeviantFun]

Fair enough. While on their own non of these seem like a big mistake, they can add up. Obviously the biggest mistake her is keeping Mia around.

Well obviously Mia should be kicked out of the friend circle, but I think making the KW about herself is quite bad too, but this is a matter of personal taste.

And overall the points I made could be considered even bad mistakes in a relationship, but we are used to a different standard with Lacey...

As for taking Mia to Vegas, I put that all on the MC and Jeanette. Jeanette is the one who said "have her bring a friend" and the MC was the one who told Mia about it and that Lacey could inviter her. I would be surprised to find Mia convinced Jeanette to invite the MC and let them bring a +1.

The fact that 1 friend is a totally arbitrary number, if you have literally 2 friends, why not ask and bring them both?

I did not mean that Mia was the one inviting herself or convincing anyone, but if you had to choose as Lacey, why not bring the best friend of your husband (that is paying and organizing the trip) instead of the one friend that just hurt him days before?
Or, since you don't want to be a shitty friend and it is your honeymoon anyway, why not both, or even better, none?

"It is fine MCFirst, I want our anniversary to be about us?"

Fucking Mia in every scene, i guess that she could start a side hustle as a pimp in vegas so it is fitting.

As for a couple of the other things... Don't get me started on just how fucked up KW was. I don't really blame Lacey for that though. Mia and who ever that was pretending to be Veronica.

Hehe I agree with you and the KW is the part I studied the most of act 2, so feel free to drop bombs.

Now for a question.
I notice on the timeline during KW it mention Veronica going to her room for a "meeting". I wasn't sure what to think of that at the time. Does anyone think there was something more to that than a business meeting?

The idea someone had was that she could be the monster/aligned with FV because she left right before MC gets the video.
I am always weirded out when there are important meetings or people going in to work during the weekend, if it isn't scheduled, why should you? You are in the fucking design department, not in critical infrastructure.

Maybe it is the european in me, I have been called in during weekends for security issues when I was more on the operative side years ago, but as an exec, that NEVER happened and it is weird she would join since we see her skip meetings at least twice, once when she cleared her afternoon for Lacey (science fiction, it is impossible to clear an entire afternoon, believe me, you could have meeting that have been scheduled by the PAs weeks before), and then when she went out to the club with the group.

I hadn't even thought about him using Anna instead of Lacey. Hmmm

I don't think a WillxLacey tape will cover the work party though. FV has already told will to cut his hair and clean himself up. I'm guessing he will have a different character model in Act 3. And I think that somehow maybe FV knows that Lacey said she didn't like will because of his long hair and stoner attitude. So he will wait for will to be seen more as having cleaned up and more like what Lacey likes and then they will hit him with a WillxLacey video.

I don't even think WillxLacey have a high probability to be a thing, Will being involved will show the cards AND it has been underlined how none of the girls actually like him that much so the credibility could be low.

But we will see.

No anti-deprassant works in a matter of days. may start to stablise someones mood, but they do not work that quickly. That's just bs. Can be up to 3 months to fully get into the system and actually start working correctly.

Yeah no....been less than 2 weeks sionce act 2 started...that's one visit...and she never made that imo.

Eh I saw people being affected before, obviously not in full (seeing yours and Dios comment), but my experience is anecdotal and I am not well versed enough in the topic to hold my own in such a conversation, I trust you guys on this.
Chalk it up to Lacey trying to get better + early effects of the meds?

 

[cormac69]

This game is amazing. One of my favs I've ever played and I've played tons. The depth of the characters and the twisted imagination of the Dev is superb. I can't wait for more and I seriously hope this game goes for a long time. Gimme 15-20 chapters like this and I'll be ecstatic!

I can't wait to see more depravity while watching the MC suffer through his angst, anxiety, and tortured confusion because of the unwanted lustful reaction he gets even as he hates what's happening. Him getting excited over her having sex with others while simultaneously hating every second of it it divine. Will he grow to like it? Or overcome his lust to put his foot down once and for all? I want to see him take his rage out by forcing her to act the depraved slut, making her repeat her wicked descent she experienced without him.

Will they convince each other that by doing so it'll be somewhat cathartic since he can actually watch and control what he had no say or part in previously while she was away for college? Or will it crush him by the end as he realizes that a part of her loves it no matter how much she denies it?

Maybe he'll allow her to convince him to get with one of the girls and we'll watch them slowly become a part of a semi-permanent or maybe fully permanent threesome? Perhaps Lacey ends up loving it and they all share. Or we can choose she hates it but hides that fact and suffers while watching him grow closer and closer with his new lover?

Perhaps, they both get trapped into a blackmail situation where they must go through with some heavy forced scenes in order to buy some time to get out from the blackmailers thumb. Maybe we'll see the MC twist and turn in his guts as he's forced to watch his wife be tricked out and used. Damn, I hope so.


There's so many directions this game can go in and I hope we have many choices to choose from because I want to explore them all.

 

[Pugthulhu]

Hehe I agree with you and the KW is the part I studied the most of act 2, so feel free to drop bombs.

I'd love to hear your take on it.

I just played through KW again and I did have a different impression going into it while not being mad at Anna and Mia.
My second impression was still that it was pretty fucked up.
I felt of Lacey as a victim of KW more the second time then I did the first time. Even the MC takes a dig at her with his question.

I still don't understand Veronica, it felt like she was trying to be Mia at the party. She references "those parties" on Mia's question and then Lacey's question and she picks the sexual fantasy.
I still thought it was bad, but the sexual fantasy question wasn't as bad as I remembered it. I had thought she mentioned Isaac by name the first time, but she didn't and that makes it a little better, but she still could have worded it differently to still get the fantasy across without making the MC think of Isaac. Keep in mind, at this time she doesn't realize that Isaac and MC have been having talks.
for MC's question to Lacey, I thought the build up for it was the meanest part. The question and answers weren't that bad and if he had said ok, I got one, and it's not that bad. favorite sex memory without me. The question itself sounds really bad, but Lacey's truths are:
1. When she realized she had overcome her fear of sex
2. The first time she made Mia proud of her.
Now the things she did to accomplish those were bad, but the reason why those were her favorite memories was actually pretty sweet.

Mia was still bad. Not worse than I remember, but not better. I listened to her apology at the start and was glad she did it then she totally negated it by all her digs at Lacey. Her first question to Lacey about workplace crust backfired on her when Lacey had some nice answers to it. and then every chance she got she made a comment including on the MCs question about motorcycle/kiss on fair ride when Lacey finally didn't have to drink and Mia comes in "but remember that one time". WTF.

Anna. I had a completely different view of Anna this time. I was so mad at her last time that I chose the worst choices for her and didn't absorb alot of her content. The second time around it felt like she felt pretty bad for going along with Mia's plan and her apology felt genuine. And when Veronica ask the fantasy question of Lacey Anna was suggesting stopping the game. Then in round 3 when she admitted that she didn't speak to Mia for a week after she found out about her lessons with the MC. All of her never have I ever's were mild. I was really mad at Anna the first time through and I do still think she was horrible in Act 2, but she was much better after the betrayal and I hope that she keeps her word to the MC and is loyal to him and Lacey. And her last Never have I ever question about making out at a movie. i almost feel that she knew MC and Lacey had done that and she said it to give them something they could drink together on.

As for Never have I ever.
I didn't think Veronica's veggie question was bad. Just because Lacey had used one didn't mean it was with someone, it felt like a layup, but then right after Mia who's never been with a guy says she had, Lacey admitted to it and Mia's like MC you dog... Come on bitch. In this one Veronica was the only one that was focusing on sex topics, but none of them felt mean this time. Then Mia's nickname question. Her I don't blame Mia as much because she had talked to MC and referred to Lacey nicknaming the dicks and her response of I figured she would have given yours one was almost believable because with as much as they talk she would have probably known if Lacey had done that.
And on the topic of the Nickname, I know I've said this before, but after the game when Mia is hiding and MC comes in. He tells her he knows why she did the nicknames, her response was why do you think I do? He said I don't think I know why. She then asks well tell me why you know? I mean come on, his answer should have been because you literally told me when we were talking about Lorenzo, it still hurts hearing it, but we already had this conversation.

And then there was the end of KW (well at least the end right before the video) when Anna confronts Mia and ask her why she was bring up all that stuff and being so mean. That did turn me around on Anna at this point.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Any update on when Act 3 will be released

I am estimating 2-3 weeks

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Its in the materials, as you like to say.

But im refering to the stable mood she shows-ish in Act 2. Antidepresants take quite some time to get you in a continuous stable phase.

If she was shown having a difference of attitude, mixing some of Lacey act 1 treatment, i would accept it, as it would mean the ups and downs of the medicine taking effect. But as she act that much grounded and stable during almost all of Act 2, its like the antidepressants have thrown her all the way to full benefits in what it feels like a couple of days. (We dont know exactly when she starts taking them, but the change in attitude is really abrupt and coincides mostly with the early part of Act 2 and Dianne dialogue.)

And for the quick search i did.
Initial effects

• You may start to feel some improvements in areas like sleep or appetite within the first one to two weeks.

Full effect

• It can take longer for the full therapeutic effect to be noticeable, often between 6 to 8 weeks.
• For anxiety disorders, it may take 4 to 6 weeks to see improvement and up to 12 weeks for the full effect.

I wouldn’t assign her difference in attitude to therapy or meds, but a temporary sign of contrition after MC fixed the drama from Act 1 and treading on eggshells because she sees how much worse MC is getting

Don’t forget Act 2 is only roughly a week, whereas Act 1 was months
A lot less time to mess up or show that the new behaviour is consistent or whether she regresses

 

[CrysusPariah2]

I admit that the therapy comment was a joke directed at the anti-clinic anti-therapy crowd.

Add an eye roll emoji next time for the sarcasm illiterate