VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

> I answered to all of those, she was not free and when she found a small way to be free she realized she was gutter trash

No, you still did not provided believable scenario how Lacey could willingly (or else "corruption" is pointless) fuck random man and not MC if being with MC was one of her main goals. Only "Lacey let her do that, an abused, lonely and druggie girl ler her abuser abuse her". How? Lacey firmly told Mia that she loved MC and she was not willing to be with her. So Mia control was not absolute. But with some random guy for some reason she was willing. How does that work exactly?

If Mia's power over Lacey was greater than her devotion to MC, then she would make Lacey her own. And if not - then she couldn't force her to sleep with anyone. Simple logic.

Let's get into the moment right before Lacey agreed to have sex first time. 1) Lacey is ready for sex (goal achieved). 2) She is not spoiled yet. And please answer this exact question: Why Lacey did not go to MC at this moment?

> We are not talking about virgins, wtf, we are talking about way deeper things, being abandoned for 1460 days to go and do that, having to go back and admit that they were in a relationship and she shat all over it, having to admit that she preferred to be railed by hundreds of men while not having the time or the will to even send a text to Mc to check on him.

What is the difference? Even ordinary girls can have body count in tens and then be a responsible wife. Past is past, present is present. Of course hundreds is a lot, and hurting MC is a big deal too. But he knew she had some troubles as a child, so it's not that far fetching that she would have problems in college. He sacrificed so much already, why not just forgive her? If he claimed that he loves her, it seems like a natural thing to do. To be in a relationship he HAVE to accept her past. And she HAVE to get over her past too. Or else there is no point for them to be together.

> Jared. I guess you didn't finish act 1, funnily enough I added the same lines you are saying in my rewrite of the script.

Well, if Jared (or somebody else) said MC that he only ever groped his wife, not fucked, no way, she's too special. I wouldn't believe him. Fact is fact - WEEKS of late night "work" and "just groping" are mutually exclusive. Period.

> Please finish act 1

I doubt it. MC agreed to his wife being with another man (what's worse, without any reason). Playing a game has no point anymore, there would be no immersion.

Imagine that in the middle of TLOU1 Joel would suddenly slit Ellie's throat, then for a few minutes pondered why did he did that, and then decided to hunt some clickers for fun since he no longer had to go to fireflies. It's just insane. Game broken. Hunting clickers would be pointless.

> There is no cleaning for that, the damage is not repairable.

Hmmm.... She is a mother of 4? Infertile due to 50 abortions? AIDS? She ate MC's mom? Hm, no that's still recoverable. Could you please tell me in a spoiler? I am curious, what would that be?

> Her obsession comes from other things that MC provides, which again I won't spoil.

Please do. I am curious, but not that curious to play a NTS game.

I think it's you who very much needs to finish it...after actually reading it properly. So much wrong with most of this post. First two paragraphs were good though.

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It was yes.

Some stories don't need that, you don't need to up the stakes every time, there was already a good set up for further drama with Lacey's (and MC's) "online presence".

This. Seems like a trope of itself at the moment. Every fucking godamn VN lately has to introduce drama...more drama...MAOR DRAMA! Thouroughly pissing me off in reality and making me drop a lot of VN's. I agree with probably 90% of what you wrote Deviant.

As for my own thoughts...well:

Seems things appear to be improving...
Mia fucks up...
MC actually feels sorry for Isaac...
Mia has a purse full of fucking drugs.
MC still has amazing phone where people not in his contact list, there names come up. Sure wish mine did that.
There's a secondary friend group now that meets in private, including 2 people who supposedly despise Mia
We find out our dear Lacey is still using behind our back....
Monster...cafe guys...Will...(oh what a joke)....wtf is even going on now???
Again...the fuck is Mia is doing....
Lacey once again...breaks her promises...
Mia well and truly, for the nth time...betrays her best friend...
MC conveniently forgets to ask his junkie addict wife...where are the fucking drugs....

*sighs*....

The video file...V conveniently on her laptop in another room....connection? Who's involved? Who the fuck knows at this point. Who even still fucking cares at this point?

Lacey hiding her 'other self'....still no one can be honest...even Anna of all people. This isn't a NTR game, it's a fucking horror story of what we can we come up with next to utterly destroy someone...

I refuse to believe that Bart is some criminal porn empire mastermind...it just...no lol. So who is it? This is just getting ridiculous now...utterly ridiculous.

However, I guess I well and truly called it. There was no resolution, nothing was fixed...we didn't even get to fuck anyone else on top of all that. So, we staying about the train wreck until the tracks stop and we go barreling into the brush?

Jesus H....what a shit-show disaster....

 

[DeviantFun]

This. Seems like a trope of itself at the moment. Every fucking godamn VN lately has to introduce drama...more drama...MAOR DRAMA! Thouroughly pissing me off in reality and making me drop a lot of VN's. I agree with probably 90% of what you wrote Deviant.

You could have been nice and made it 100%, come on, but I would be happy to know what the 10%, I need the usual outseide perspective.

As for my own thoughts...well:

Seems things appear to be improving...
Mia fucks up...
MC actually feels sorry for Isaac...
Mia has a purse full of fucking drugs.
MC still has amazing phone where people not in his contact list, there names come up. Sure wish mine did that.
There's a secondary friend group now that meets in private, including 2 people who supposedly despise Mia
We find out our dear Lacey is still using behind our back....
Monster...cafe guys...Will...(oh what a joke)....wtf is even going on now???
Again...the fuck is Mia is doing....
Lacey once again...breaks her promises...
Mc conveniently forgets to ask his junkie addict wife...where are the fucking drugs....

Agree on all of these imagine if the drama revolved around people distancing themselves from Lacey, Mia facing the music after doing her usual shit (i've seen that coming, how funny it was to re read all the silly people saying Mia wouldn't hurt a fly) and then dealing with Isaac and the club scene aftermath.
I would be fine even with Will trying to charm the ladies and being pushy or even drug them.
But yeah now we got the big baddies, with espionage tactics and various shit.

The video file...V conveniently on her laptop in another room....connection? Who's involved? Who the fuck knows at this point. Who even still fucking cares at this point?

Lacey hiding her 'other self'....still no one can be honest...even Anna of all people. This isn't a NTR game, it's a fucking horror story of what we can we come up with next to utterly destroy someone...

I refuse to believe that Bart is some criminal porn empire mastermind...it just...no lol. So who is it? This is just getting ridiculous now...utterly ridiculous.

However, I guess I well and truly called it. There was no resolution, nothing was fixed...we didn't even get to fuck anyone else on top of all that. So, we staying about the train wreck until the tracks stop and we go barreling into the brush?

What a disaster....

I also thought about that, also Veronica worry if Lacey will forgive MC is totally weird.
But yeah there is no info anywhere so the interest in finding out is zero, I am a "detective", not a "fortune teller".

The Lacey other self could have been a nice hook, Lacey is almost bare now with her past which was the hook for act 1.
Something dark that she would try to hide due to shame etc, I expect Lacey to not be honest.

I don't know if you read my LOOOONG post about characters in act 1 vs act 2, many of them are unrecognizable.
Anna is the girl that felt guilty about lying to Lacey so she called her the next day to apologize, yet she lies to MC? On that level? When MC was about to kill himself after Damian? Am I the only one that sees the risks here?

To catch up with what I said above, the whole Barty thing is a big let down, like REALLY big.
Like the best part of the game was the king weekend, where Lacey realizes she fucked up forever and she can't do anything to fix that, even innocent party games will come and bite them in the ass, no big bad, no enemies in the shadows, no CIA level hacking.
Seriously a company with an IT dept without a cybersecurity staff? what is this? is their website managed by their high school aged cousin or something?
She isn't even confronted for the fact that Mc has to swallow shit for his promotion party and now also in the king party and yet he is the one that needs to go and soothe her oh so delicate feelings, IT WAS YOUR FUCKING IDEA.
He should have just told her that he had to swallow shit for the whole weekend, she could actually try to do the same without ruining it.
Instead of interrupting the weekend because Mc is fed up, or Mia fucks up too much or whatever, we have to go full on shock value and get the BIIIIG RAAAAGE HULK SMAAAASH.

You did call that it would be a trainwreck, I was blinded by hope, BUT Lacey is much better so can we go 50/50?

 

[Arithil]

FOR FUCK'S SAKE, i expected a quick wank and instead i got fucking depression. I am only at the 1 week trip moment and reading all of your guys spoilered posts (i don't mind spoilers), i don't think i want to continue reading this story. Don't get me wrong i think this game is a masterpiece in term of writing but holy shit.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Theories i’ve seen/had so far
- hidden nymphomania/kink
- trauma/ketamine induced split personality
- hidden lovechild
- truth about how her ketamine habit was funded, either mia straight up pimping lacey out in college, or selling/uploading the recordings online, which would explain how Jared and Barty saw them
- additional health complications like degenerative disease or fertility problems
- trauma/stress induced regression to pre-college phase, making her unable to love the MC like they both need

My money is on Lacey having a child with one of the hookups on college and abandoning it. My reassons for that bet. 1 year wait even after the call to give birth and recover herself, and with the ammount of people using her, whos gonna track if she got the pill, no condom on sight on the mia photos. It could have been pregnant when she got the call, and knew that she couldnt show herself like that to MC. Hence the 1 year wait.

It also fits the "style" of the story, taking away possible new, special and only for Mc things. And if she abandoned the child, it could hurt and trigger the MC Abandonment Ptsd, hence why she comments he is not ready and maybe never will be.

The multiple personality, i myself enterntain the idea, but dont really see any evidence. If it happens it would be out of nowhere. The only minimum support to this heory would be the Red Bra Brain Reset, maybe its not Lacey who gets "reset". But very low probability in my opinion.

And at this time, to me, the source of income to the drugs is all but confirmed. Mia taking money for Lacy doing that, selling the videos online, it fits her awfull character and explains too much of loose inconsintencies.

The rest, except a new kink for Lacey, i dont see them happening.

 

[DeviantFun]

My money is on Lacey having a child with one of the hookups on college and abandoning it. My reassons for that bet. 1 year wait even after the call to give birth and recover herself, and with the ammount of people using her, whos gonna track if she got the pill, no condom on sight on the mia photos. It could have been pregnant when she got the call, and knew that she couldnt show herself like that to MC. Hence the 1 year wait.

It also fits the "style" of the story, taking away possible new, special and only for Mc things. And if she abandoned the child, it could hurt and trigger the MC Abandonment Ptsd, hence why she comments he is not ready and maybe never will be.

Hmmm it is actually a nice theory, I kinda like it, no big bads in sight, just fuck ups to deal with, "normal" life stuff.
I was so disappointed that at some point I hoped "the monster" was an allucination created by MC fucked up mind, I still hope that this is the case but it doesn't seem to work.

But Lacey speaks very openly and plainly about being a good mother and be ready for that in the future....I don't feel it fits.
The one year wait was to finish college and getting clean up.

Damn this idea is soooo good, MC couldn't even be the first one to get her pregnant.
Another "win" for Lacey.

If that doesn't end things I don't know what will.

 

[Maviarab]

Agree on all of these imagine if the drama revolved around people distancing themselves from Lacey, Mia facing the music after doing her usual shit (i've seen that coming, how funny it was to re read all the silly people saying Mia wouldn't hurt a fly) and then dealing with Isaac and the club scene aftermath.
I would be fine even with Will trying to charm the ladies and being pushy or even drug them.
But yeah now we got the big baddies, with espionage tactics and various shit.

I expect Lacey to not be honest.

I don't know if you read my LOOOONG post about characters in act 1 vs act 2, many of them are unrecognizable.
Anna is the girl that felt guilty about lying to Lacey so she called her the next day to apologize, yet she lies to MC? On that level? When MC was about to kill himself after Damian? Am I the only one that sees the risks here?

To catch up with what I said above, the whole Barty thing is a big let down, like REALLY big.
Like the best part of the game was the king weekend, where Lacey realizes she fucked up forever and she can't do anything to fix that, even innocent party games will come and bite them in the ass.
She isn't even confronted for the fact that Mc has to swallow shit for his promotion party and now also in the king party and yet he is the one that needs to go and soothe her oh so delicate feelings, IT WAS YOUR FUCKING IDEA.
He should have just told her that he had to swallow shit for the whole weekend, she could actually try to do the same without ruining it.
Instead of interrupting the weekend because Mc is fed up, or Mia fucks up too much or whatever, we have to go full on shock value and get the BIIIIG RAAAAGE HULK SMAAAASH.

Ok..this time you can have 100% rofl. As for your 90...it might be 95....or 89...ot 98....it doesn;t matter. Just little things I saw maybe differently or didn't overly bother me. Nothing important.

The rest though yes...completely agree...it just went off the deep end and not in a good way...it was just...a jumbled unresolved mess.

You did call that it would be a trainwreck, I was blinded by hope, BUT Lacey is much better so can we go 50/50?

Hehehe sure we can.

Btw...the no-fun path....I'm still confused, what exactly are we not getting because...I'm just not getting it lol. Is it purely just not going to have the Eager Punsihment/Slut/bimbo stuff? Seems a rather pointless path...

 

[CrysusPariah2]

My money is on Lacey having a child with one of the hookups on college and abandoning it. My reassons for that bet. 1 year wait even after the call to give birth and recover herself, and with the ammount of people using her, whos gonna track if she got the pill, no condom on sight on the mia photos. It could have been pregnant when she got the call, and knew that she couldnt show herself like that to MC. Hence the 1 year wait.

It also fits the "style" of the story, taking away possible new, special and only for Mc things. And if she abandoned the child, it could hurt and trigger the MC Abandonment Ptsd, hence why she comments he is not ready and maybe never will be.

The multiple personality, i myself enterntain the idea, but dont really see any evidence. If it happens it would be out of nowhere. The only minimum support to this heory would be the Red Bra Brain Reset, maybe its not Lacey who gets "reset". But very low probability in my opinion.

And at this time, to me, the source of income to the drugs is all but confirmed. Mia taking money for Lacy doing that, selling the videos online, it fits her awfull character and explains too much of loose inconsintencies.

The rest, except a new kink for Lacey, i dont see them happening.

I was thinking something similar, particularly because I just restarted Act 1 that when she visits a year after college, she mentions feeling unwell (still?) and i don’t think that attributed to withdrawal symptoms

however I don’t see her being able to have hidden that from Anna while working with at the same company as her for that year, and Anna also not mentioning it, if that was the case

 

[Diosvincenccio]

But Lacey speaks very openly and plainly about being a good mother and be ready for that in the future....I don't feel it fits.
The one year wait was to finish college and getting clean up.

Damn this idea is soooo good, MC couldn't even be the first one to get her pregnant.

The point been GOOD mother, if she abandoned the child, it will fuck up thing with MC, and how he is now, even be a relationship breaker. And thats why she shut up about it.

The year could be about all three things, give birth, get clean and finishing college. Even explains why she was "ready" to leave that kind of life behind when she got the call. She got pregnant, maybe 2-3 months, oh shit what i have become, decides to clean herself, last hurrah get the call, rest of the year to fix herself.

I was thinking something similar, particularly because I just restarted Act 1 that when she visits a year after college, she mentions feeling unwell (still?) and i don’t think that attributed to withdrawal symptoms

however I don’t see her being able to have hidden that from Anna while working with at the same company as her for that year, and Anna also not mentioning it, if that was the case

If it was all before meeting each other again it could be, we dont have a very acurate timeline

 

[AL.d]

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Yes, but I wouldn't put it past dev to make it responsible for a DID. It's already presented as the magical excuse for everything and it's supposed to have caused some permanent damage (that applies only when others want to bang her for some reason). Not that big of a stretch.

 

[DeviantFun]

Btw...the no-fun path....I'm still confused, what exactly are we not getting because...I'm just not getting it lol. Is it purely just not going to have the Eager Punsihment/Slut/bimbo stuff? Seems a rather pointless path...

In theory, or at least what MC says, is that Lacey will be easy to manipulate and he will be way better at it than fools like Jared.

No sign of it in act 2.
Not even remarks when Lacey keep on asking about sex.

Granted, the paths in act 2 suck so much.
Act 1 was way better in that regard.
I don't know which you played but punish is only decent on choice 2.
Slut is useless, just a silly roleplay, all three options are underwhelming.

I was thinking something similar, particularly because I just restarted Act 1 that when she visits a year after college, she mentions feeling unwell (still?) and i don’t think that attributed to withdrawal symptoms

however I don’t see her being able to have hidden that from Anna while working with at the same company as her for that year, and Anna also not mentioning it, if that was the case

Now I havent studied act 2 enough yet, but I think she relapsed quite a few times during that year.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Hmmm it is actually a nice theory, I kinda like it, no big bads in sight, just fuck ups to deal with, "normal" life stuff.
I was so disappointed that at some point I hoped "the monster" was an allucination created by MC fucked up mind, I still hope that this is the case but it doesn't seem to work.

But Lacey speaks very openly and plainly about being a good mother and be ready for that in the future....I don't feel it fits.
The one year wait was to finish college and getting clean up.

Damn this idea is soooo good, MC couldn't even be the first one to get her pregnant.
Another "win" for Lacey.

If that doesn't end things I don't know what will.

To me its not that bad, sure its a strange change of seriousness on the story, but it could happend, the Big Bad should be rich and all to pull that kind of thing. But yeah, the slice of fucked up life fitted the story like a glove.

The tempo of the story got better in Act 2 for me, there are some "happy" scenes and MC even improves the tiniest bit. Points of rest if you will. Act 1 was brutal, hit against hit against hit. Pure torture.

At the nightmare about being months apart in act 2 i was cheering for that through. They seriously need it to heal themselfs. Too bad it was a nightmare.

Now seeing the reaction to the idea, it solidifies my belief in that happened. It just fits so well. Another win indeed. The only against this would be Mia, she would know if it happened. But maybe its keeping it secret as a "last bullet" knowing it would be devastating against both MC and Lacey pushing them too much.

And talking about Lacey Act 2. Did her gaslighting/lying level up or did she got through an entire Act without a "big" lie. Either i missed it or a miracle happened. Hidding things sure, manipulating MC into her love experiment, of course. but i dont remember her outright lying.

 

[doyino1888]

One of the best games, hands down. Hats off to the Dev. I know NTR isn't your usual go-to games, but damn, I encourage you, if you are in possibility, to continue making. You made a new fan with this one.

 

[AL.d]

Since I just finished this gigantic act 1, I have to ask. In act 2, does MC get to address his good wife presently brainwashing him into a cuck to feed her fetish, or will he keep focusing on the pointless college past? I feel like this dude keeps whining about hurting his toe a couple years ago, while at the same time he keeps getting stabbed in the gut and doesn't even realize.

 

[DeviantFun]

To me its not that bad, sure its a strange change of seriousness on the story, but it could happend, the Big Bad should be rich and all to pull that kind of thing. But yeah, the slice of fucked up life fitted the story like a glove.

The tempo of the story got better in Act 2 for me, there are some "happy" scenes and MC even improves the tiniest bit. Points of rest if you will. Act 1 was brutal, hit against hit against hit. Pure torture.

At the nightmare about being months apart in act 2 i was cheering for that through. They seriously need it to heal themselfs. Too bad it was a nightmare.

Now seeing the reaction to the idea, it solidifies my belief in that happened. It just fits so well. Another win indeed.

And talking about Lacey Act 2. Did her gaslighting/lying level up or did she got through an entire Act without a "big" lie. Either i missed it or a miracle happened. Hidding things sure, manipulating MC into her love experiment, of course. but i dont remember her outright lying.

You know why you think there are happy scenes and MC is better?
He is bottling up, he is refusing to face things, he is pressuring all the pain down, the pain and the hits are there, he just ignored them.

It is not an improvement, this willl bite him hard later, his friend cheering for that at the party is gut wrenching, like everyone speak like a therapist but no one has a fucking clue besides Dianne.

You are right.
One thing did improve, and that is Lacey, her therapy might be working and Dianne gave her a good perspective.
I wonder if Lacey's therapist is actually qualified, like, why didn't she suggest the same things as Dianne?
She is still out little selfish manipulator, yeah, but she is really trying hard.

She couldn't go a full week without hurting MC before.

Since I just finished this gigantic act 1, I have to ask. In act 2, does MC get to address his good wife presently brainwashing him into a cuck to feed her fetish, or will he keep focusing on the pointless college past? I feel like this dude keeps whining about hurting his toe a couple years ago, while at the same time he keeps getting stabbed in the gut and doesn't even realize.

I feel bad when I see posts like this because it seems like you skimmed through the game without reading it.
Don't take it personally, it is just my impression and I don't mean anything negative about it.

So: Some things get explored by Lacey and MC, mostly Lacey thanks to an external support.
Since you are completely wrong about the fetish part (from what it is shown until now) no that doesn't get explored.

The college experience is extremely meaningful within the narrative context and the character growth, I don't get how people can miss that.
Thankfully the same external support will try to shed some light here too, maybe it will be useful to you too, to understand the implications of abandonement trauma and how fucked up the situation is.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

You know why you think there are happy scenes and MC is better?
He is bottling up, he is refusing to face things, he is pressuring all the pain down, the pain and the hits are there, he just ignored them.

It is not an improvement, this willl bite him hard later, his friend cheering for that at the party is gut wrenching, like everyone speak like a therapist but no one has a fucking clue besides Dianne.

You are right.
One thing did improve, and that is Lacey, her therapy might be working and Dianne gave her a good perspective.
I wonder if Lacey's therapist is actually qualified, like, why didn't she suggest the same things as Dianne?
She is still out little selfish manipulator, yeah, but she is really trying hard.

She couldn't go a full week without hurting MC before.



I feel bad when I see posts like this because it seems like you skimmed through the game without reading it.
Don't take it personally, it is just my impression and I don't mean anything negative about it.

So: Some things get explored by Lacey and MC, mostly Lacey thanks to an external support.
Since you are completely wrong about the fetish part (from what it is shown until now) no that doesn't get explored.

The college experience is extremely meaningful within the narrative context and the character growth, I don't get how people can miss that.
Thankfully the same external support will try to shed some light here too, maybe it will be useful to you too, to understand the implications of abandonement trauma and how fucked up the situation is.

Glad to hear I’m not the only one already doubting the therapist or seeing some potential stones down the road, with how private Lacey has been about most of it

 

[Saphfire]

Pure speculation at this point. I have absolutely no clue how chapter 3 will be. I´m still thinking about the dev´s intension of chapter 2.
I simply didn´t see any realization that the MC needs therapy.

 

[DeviantFun]

Glad to hear I’m not the only one already doubting the therapist or seeing some potential stones down the road, with how private Lacey has been about most of it

I mean, therapy IS private, but usually you would share a lot more with your partner.

Not every detail or every interaction, but what you are working on and the likes, not immediatelly after the session, but bits and bobs here and there.

I guess this may vary from person to person, but with the connection MC and Lacey have, it feels weird.
Probably a lot of stuff from college is coming up and that Lacey would rather not share, understandable.

Or maybe she is mostly doing basic cognition exercises, nothing special about doing hand signs for 1 hour, but then she would do them at home too.

Whatever, I just think the auther wants to keep some cards in his hand without showing too much.

 

[AL.d]

You know why you think there are happy scenes and MC is better?
He is bottling up, he is refusing to face things, he is pressuring all the pain down, the pain and the hits are there, he just ignored them.

It is not an improvement, this willl bite him hard later, his friend cheering for that at the party is gut wrenching, like everyone speak like a therapist but no one has a fucking clue besides Dianne.

You are right.
One thing did improve, and that is Lacey, her therapy might be working and Dianne gave her a good perspective.
I wonder if Lacey's therapist is actually qualified, like, why didn't she suggest the same things as Dianne?
She is still out little selfish manipulator, yeah, but she is really trying hard.

She couldn't go a full week without hurting MC before.



I feel bad when I see posts like this because it seems like you skimmed through the game without reading it.
Don't take it personally, it is just my impression and I don't mean anything negative about it.

So: Some things get explored by Lacey and MC, mostly Lacey thanks to an external support.
Since you are completely wrong about the fetish part (from what it is shown until now) no that doesn't get explored.

The college experience is extremely meaningful within the narrative context and the character growth, I don't get how people can miss that.
Thankfully the same external support will try to shed some light here too, maybe it will be useful to you too, to understand the implications of abandonement trauma and how fucked up the situation is.

What I read in act 1 ending, was a giant gaslighting monologue by her, full of logical leaps and dumb analogies, leading to her roping him into the whole "jealousy" thing. And him agreeing like the simp he is, as usual. It is her fetish not his. Actually it's the exact opposite of a fetish for him since the thought of her with other makes him physically ill and she even mentions it. And despite her knowing it, she still did everything she could to rope him into it as usual. Knowing full well he won't say no.

And then, even if you aren't interested in any nts and choose to leave, she is still cucking him in front of his eyes yet again, making out with another dude because misunderstanding. And for some reason it goes under the rug never to be mentioned again, like exploring a dude's tonsils in front of your husband is something minor.

This game does this weird thing, where it has a bunch of events worthy of ending the relationship at present, but her past when they were not even a couple overshadows everything, to the point they are completely ignored. Shouldn't shit that actually happens in the marriage be a priority?

 

[Diosvincenccio]

You know why you think there are happy scenes and MC is better?
He is bottling up, he is refusing to face things, he is pressuring all the pain down, the pain and the hits are there, he just ignored them.

It is not an improvement, this willl bite him hard later, his friend cheering for that at the party is gut wrenching, like everyone speak like a therapist but no one has a fucking clue besides Dianne.

You are right.
One thing did improve, and that is Lacey, her therapy might be working and Dianne gave her a good perspective.
I wonder if Lacey's therapist is actually qualified, like, why didn't she suggest the same things as Dianne?
She is still out little selfish manipulator, yeah, but she is really trying hard.

She couldn't go a full week without hurting MC before.

For the MC, i think he improved because... he can stand in presence of Isaac without been trown into a downwards spiral, he managed to see him as a fucked up human, one he dosent have to like instead of the monster he thought it was. Tiny bit of improvement. Also he started to bite back even at Lacey, beggining of Act 2 and after the Little bitch video even yelled and thought about divorce, first time he sees himself without her and not asking to be forgiven for an outbust of emotion. Only ask for forgiveness when he discovers its a deepfake.

You thing he is bottling up, i think he is building the tiniest minimum resistance. Push down just enough to not crumble. Like in the Act 2 games when Mia brings Lacey past in the questions. Just enough to speak his feelings, and go through difficult questions. Just enough to talk things. Push through the pain enough to express yourself even if it hurts. Should be preparation for him visiting a therapist.

And you are assuming Lacey told the therapist everything or that she told things objectively instead of her "Lacey up" beautifull version where she just accidentally hurt him. Or hides things out of shame. Or straight up lie. its the problem with not having even one scene of her in therapy. Does she even go to therapy? maybe she just says she goes. We dont know what the therapist said or she understood, but you are right. Dianne helped a lot, and was necessary. The crash with kelly too. She is a manipulator, trying to be a good intentions one, but still...carefull with her.

 

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The whole Barty thing is weird, I don't know if it was planned or just added to create drama for act 2.
Because it doesn't make sense, we know Barty came and tried to fuck Lacey, Lacey sends him away, now we discover that at some point before this Barty forced a video of her asking hurtful things.
Barty then comes through and helps MC against Jared.
I can't reconcile the things, it is like they were written for two different stories.

Lacey couldn't be used as a party favour, unless you skipped all the Jared event in act 1, it is pretty clear.
Jared is known for pump and dump, if Lacey was pumped so much, why would he go to such lenghts?

Yes we are lucky the MC has the self worth of a sea slug and is completely dependant and subservient to Lacey.

Isaac could go both ways, he could be lying, but there was some emotional opnening between them.
I don't like the development honestly, since it skips over a VERY important thing that happened.
But the author likes to show that the power of MC for making friends is his superpower and gets him through difficult times, such as Jared blackmail.
So who knows, the info about the cameras is pretty important, they will be used by or against MC for sure.

We don't know that, we KNOW the opposite. Lacey SAID that is what happened. She lied. She is now lying to the other girls. We literally have video of it. Barty DID fuck Lacey, and by both of their statements it was a regularly occurring thing. You seem to have this weird thing in your posts where you take what Lacey says at face value, despite a huge repeat point being she LIES.

The video isn't a fake, and Lacey even hinted at it happening earlier. When she explained her whole BS ketamine thing early on during the five box conversation, she mentioned she had a "relapse recently". MC didn't pick up on it, and it never got explored. Turns out Barty was her relapse. In the Barty video she even describes her whole plan to get MC to be cuck. That MC is actively in the middle of.

My GUESS is that "Monster", the person who sent the video, is Mia. I think Mia really, really gets off on all of this, and has since college. She missed getting to be a voyeur, live vicariously through Lacey. So she is trying to start it up again. She probably sent Barty and Jared the videos SHE took from college, and told them about the ketamine. She then got THEIR videos. She gets off on it... kind of the same way several of us here do XD.

Only other possibility is Anna, but that feels flimsier. Her crush on MC, her telling Lacey MC hated her and never wanted to see her again in college... I could see Anna doing all of this to break up the two so she could be with MC.