VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[DeviantFun]

I'll have to play the cynic again but I really think the whole kiss thing was Lacey bullshiting him to appease his feelings yet again.

We've all seen how extremely easy it is for her to attack another dude's tonsils, both with Damian and the bald dude. Both high and sober. And with MC around in some form. Are we to believe that in college, with a bunch of boyfriends, MC not even factoring in her mind and lots of drugs, she hasn't kissed once? When the game makes abundantly clear she has an oral fetish that practically makes her lose control when it comes to acts involving that? Come on now.

If I had to bet on something actually being a first for her, I'd say double anal fisting seems the safer one And even that is a risky bet.

You know, I aways try to avoid speculation, but I also think she is not honest with that or she simply doesn't remember.
With all the memory problems that get brought up it is always weird how Lacey has full clarity of everything, 3rd phase included (slut path).
My theory based on what we have from the game is that she fed her fixation sucking cocks or fingers amd still saved her kiss...
I know it feels weak, the more we discover of her past the weaker it gets, in all the dating she did no one ever snuck a kiss in?
Plus since I like being pedantic one of the possible last questions of the never have I ever is if you ever kissed on a fair ride.
Lacey says no, the pimp interjects, it might not mean that she kissed per se, it could mean that she was getting gangbanged on the ferris wheel, still smells fishy.

I will keep on hoping that at least the double ass fisting is only for MC

Yup. He definitely could.

Usually he gives some subtle hint in the narration when he wants something pointed at, without saying it. So if he wrote something like "Lacey started laughing, the rest followed", that would be a good indicator. But the way it's written it's just a "and they all started laughing" line.

He probably just forgot the laugh thing. Which was idiotic to begin with. She was having fun dates and stuff in college, and she didn't show the basic human expression for "fun" once? Mia was probably too busy jerking off to her cuck videos to notice.

Mia's comment on the Jared situation was meant to show how suspicious Lacey's behavior was with him. But dev picked a weird way to tells us through Mia. And then forgot.

Careful not to drive yourself insane over this, man — I think you might be giving the author too much credit by trying to connect all these dots. You're searching for hints and deeper meaning where, frankly, I don’t think there was any long-term planning at all.


The game feels emotionally intense — that’s its strength — but I really doubt the dev is tracking every past line or psychological implication. Especially when he writes shock-heavy scenes, coherence tends to go out the window.


You’re falling into the same trap many of us have: taking the emotional weight of a moment seriously, only to later realize it’s probably just collateral from a scene designed for max drama, not consistency.


This isn’t a puzzle box. It’s a roller coaster.
And sometimes the tracks don’t line up.

Don't worry guys, I understand and I am not making myself crazy over it, I was being a bit theatrical.

Tbh it does sting a bit because it is constantly referenced during the game and it is referenced 2 times in the scenes before it happens.
It is a major character trait for Lacey, forgetting it is kind of a big oversight.

rhune I see what you mean about the max drama vs consistency, but then that whole part fails a bit, there is no drama, when there could be plenty as there was in the previous night game when Lacey gets emotional when Mc says something similar and there is no consistency.
MC loses all is character traits in that scene, so does Lacey and probably so does Anna.

It is a shame.

That, I would seriously question...though if he works for the AFI...it's a pretty low bar to using as some kind of achievement in my opinion. Given the shit that comes out in cinema these days, I actually would not be surprised.

If that is the case, now I understand all the "american college" way of speaking.

Damn I am also out of reactions.

 

[Dragonlight]

Well, Lacey has never cucked her other husbands, so thats a first.

I will keep on hoping that at least the double ass fisting is only for MC

 

[sfree21]

This game says it's not the typical NTR game, and that made me think, why not use NTR like a "scary" and "keep you on your toes element" for people who don't like NTR/humiliation (not talking about NTS), like a horror movie?

I like horror movies, but that doesn't mean I like to watch MC being killed by monsters or demons, it's just the scary thrill, suspence, and fear... in a game format with choises this could work really well

 

[Maviarab]

Well, Lacey has never cucked her other husbands, so thats a first.

Brutal....

 

[anongamer1983]

One thing we do know is that Lacey will lie to herself to the point that she believes her own lies (a typical trait of a narcissist). It is possible that she really believes that MC is her first "real" kiss while also having been kissed by guys in college (Whatever Mia was going to say about the fair?). Lacey does qualify it by saying "real" kiss at least a couple of times (specifically talking about prom night)

1.) With Damian, Lacey specifically says "I'd give anything to take that back. And the kissing was done in a very familiar and intimate way. which makes it a far worse sin". I think this at least shows that Lacey categorizes kissing.
2.) Mia also says to Lacey about Damian "You kissed him, the way you kiss MC"
3.) MC says he'll give Anna a non-romantic kiss goodnight, and Lacey says "make it a real kiss"

However, I'm of the opinion that MC was her first kiss. I think it has more emotional weight, not just the shock value, but for Lacey's true feelings on sex. Lacey in college had no association between love and sex. However, my thoughts are that now that Lacey added the intimate parts to sex, such as kissing and all that, now her views on it are blurred just as she's trying to blur MC's views on it. Lacey admits during the Damian scene that it's "more intimate" than she thought it would be (EDIT: The reason why I don't add the "I don't remember being this turned on back in college" as further evidence is because MC was watching her. Lacey couldn't cum with Morty until MC told her to cum. Therefore, I think that line was specifically focused on her feeling like MC was there with her during her high)

For the fair (pure speculation here), My best guess about what happened was a guy forced a kiss on her. Maybe Stephen or Lorenzo wanted to get closer, and Mia convinced Lacey to go to the fair with them. Mia whispered to the guy to get them to kiss her (she thought it would be funny). They kissed Lacey, and Lacey immediately broke things off with them. I think that's why Lacey reacted angrily when Mia was going to bring it up, because it wasn't consensual.

 

[DeviantFun]

One thing we do know is that Lacey will lie to herself to the point that she believes her own lies (a typical trait of a narcissist). It is possible that she really believes that MC is her first "real" kiss while also having been kissed by guys in college (Whatever Mia was going to say about the fair?). Lacey does qualify it by saying "real" kiss at least a couple of times (specifically talking about prom night)

1.) With Damian, Lacey specifically says "I'd give anything to take that back. And the kissing was done in a very familiar and intimate way. which makes it a far worse sin". I think this at least shows that Lacey categorizes kissing.
2.) Mia also says to Lacey about Damian "You kissed him, the way you kiss MC"
3.) MC says he'll give Anna a non-romantic kiss goodnight, and Lacey says "make it a real kiss"

However, I'm of the opinion that MC was her first kiss. I think it has more emotional weight, not just the shock value, but for Lacey's true feelings on sex. Lacey in college had no association between love and sex. However, my thoughts are that now that Lacey added the intimate parts to sex, such as kissing and all that, now her views on it are blurred just as she's trying to blur MC's views on it. Lacey admits during the Damian scene that it's "more intimate" than she thought it would be

For the fair (pure speculation here), My best guess about what happened was a guy forced a kiss on her. Maybe Stephen or Lorenzo wanted to get closer, and Mia convinced Lacey to go to the fair with them. Mia whispered to the guy to get them to kiss her (she thought it would be funny). They kissed Lacey, and Lacey immediately broke things off with them. I think that's why Lacey reacted angrily when Mia was going to bring it up, because it wasn't consensual.

I am out of rections, so I will say it, I agree with all the first part of your post, unsurprisingly.

On your idea of that now Lacey sees sex differently, you are spot on, it is stated by her.
She now "enjoys" sex as it is more active and intimate and she blames MC for that (bad Lacey! BAD!).

For the fair I think it wasn't a kiss, it was left ambiguos but Lacey and the others have sworn to honestly and she has been very honest for the whole game, even on very hurtful topics. (the worst one for me was the toothbrush for some reason, because she denies MC).
So she really didn't kiss, but she was doing other stuff.

Well, Lacey has never cucked her other husbands, so thats a first.

Holy shit, and here I thought you were a chill guy

But yeah, so MC got a first for sure!

 

[anongamer1983]

For the fair I think it wasn't a kiss, it was left ambiguos but Lacey and the others have sworn to honestly and she has been very honest for the whole game, even on very hurtful topics. (the worst one for me was the toothbrush for some reason, because she denies MC).
So she really didn't kiss, but she was doing other stuff.

I appreciate your comment, but looking back at the text, does this change your mind?

The question was
"Kissed someone ON one of the rides at a fair"

then we have
L "I've never kissed someone ON a fair ride"
M "Although, there was that one time AT the fair by the college..."

So it's possible a guy kissed Lacey at the fair, just not on a ride. I do 100% believe Lacey when she says she didn't kiss someone ON a fair ride, as per the question. However, at the fair...

 

[Maviarab]

I appreciate your comment, but looking back at the text, does this change your mind?

The question was
"Kissed someone ON one of the rides at a fair"

then we have
L "I've never kissed someone ON a fair ride"
M "Although, there was that one time AT the fair by the college..."

So it's possible a guy kissed Lacey at the fair, just not on a ride. I do 100% believe Lacey when she says she didn't kiss someone ON a fair ride, as per the question. However, at the fair...

It's typical Lacey though isn't it, another half-truth...then she shuts Mia down hard so the MC doesn't find out stuff....

Ahhhh....Lacey Lacey, Lacey....

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Well, Lacey has never cucked her other husbands, so thats a first.

Honestly I wouldn't be fucking surprised if it came out that she had been married before at this rate

But the million dollar question is how many of those firsts where with her dad

 

[anongamer1983]

It's typical Lacey though isn't it, another half-truth...then she shuts Mia down hard so the MC doesn't find out stuff....

Ahhhh....Lacey Lacey, Lacey....

To be fair, if what I suggested is what happened (totally possible it's not), then it makes total sense that Lacey would react so strongly. Like, I wouldn't blame Lacey for not considering it a kiss if it was forced. I am a firm believer that a future Act (maybe 3 since Mia and Lacey are there without most of the crew) will have Lacey and Mia get into a huge argument.

If it happens, then I think the motorcycle and fair will be mentioned as points for how Mia was never a good friend to Lacey, and with the recent ketamine thing, she still isn't

 

[Chaoticjustice]

It's typical Lacey though isn't it, another half-truth...then she shuts Mia down hard so the MC doesn't find out stuff....

Ahhhh....Lacey Lacey, Lacey....

Honestly at this rate I'm convinced that Lacey doesn't actually know what actual love is or how it feels

 

[DeviantFun]

I appreciate your comment, but looking back at the text, does this change your mind?

The question was
"Kissed someone ON one of the rides at a fair"

then we have
L "I've never kissed someone ON a fair ride"
M "Although, there was that one time AT the fair by the college..."

So it's possible a guy kissed Lacey at the fair, just not on a ride. I do 100% believe Lacey when she says she didn't kiss someone ON a fair ride, as per the question. However, at the fair...

It's typical Lacey though isn't it, another half-truth...then she shuts Mia down hard so the MC doesn't find out stuff....

Ahhhh....Lacey Lacey, Lacey....

You guys make me think.

I still want believe the kiss didn't happen but it would line up with the other never I have ever: "ridden a motorcycle".

Here Lacey says she never has the chance to.
The pimp, like the insensitive bitch that she is, says: "Although, there was that one time they had a motorcycle in...".

So Lacey here has been ridden ON a motorcycle but never rode a motorcycle.
Which makes her statement true, but obviously insincere.
If we apply the same logic to the fair, then yes, she probably kissed or was forced to, but it wasn't a "real" kiss or it wasn't on one of the rides.

Honestly at this rate I'm convinced that Lacey doesn't actually know what actual love is or how it feels

This was one of my theories that Act 2 kind of dismantled with the "I will never leave him even if I fall out of love" dialogue.
I always thought she was dependant and grateful to MC, with a great need to be accepted by the only "good" figure in her life.

But then we see how she separates her gratitude strongly from her love, so I am in doubt.

 

[Maviarab]

You guys make me think.

I still want believe the kiss didn't happen but it would line up with the other never I have ever: "ridden a motorcycle".

Here Lacey says she never has the chance to.
The pimp, like the insensitive bitch that she is, says: "Although, there was that one time they had a motorcycle in...".

So Lacey here has been ridden ON a motorcycle but never rode a motorcycle.
Which makes her statement true, but obviously insincere.
If we apply the same logic to the fair, then yes, she probably kissed or was forced to, but it wasn't a "real" kiss.

I sincerely doubt there was any force involved, except the force and intensity of the kiss itself maybe

She answered the question 100% truthfully, as the question was asked. However....

As you have said numerous times before....this is the first time we've actually 'learnt' anything about the 4 years Lacey was in college that did not come from the pimp as a sordid tale of lust and debauchery. Her entire 4 years really, when you think about it, are blank, we know nothing of what she did, when, where, who with...except being fucked. As you keep saying, she had a LOT of fun....where she was neither drunk or drugged up....she did manage to do all her coursework and not get thrown out of college after all

 

[AL.d]

One thing we do know is that Lacey will lie to herself to the point that she believes her own lies (a typical trait of a narcissist). It is possible that she really believes that MC is her first "real" kiss while also having been kissed by guys in college (Whatever Mia was going to say about the fair?). Lacey does qualify it by saying "real" kiss at least a couple of times (specifically talking about prom night)

1.) With Damian, Lacey specifically says "I'd give anything to take that back. And the kissing was done in a very familiar and intimate way. which makes it a far worse sin". I think this at least shows that Lacey categorizes kissing.
2.) Mia also says to Lacey about Damian "You kissed him, the way you kiss MC"
3.) MC says he'll give Anna a non-romantic kiss goodnight, and Lacey says "make it a real kiss"

However, I'm of the opinion that MC was her first kiss. I think it has more emotional weight, not just the shock value, but for Lacey's true feelings on sex. Lacey in college had no association between love and sex. However, my thoughts are that now that Lacey added the intimate parts to sex, such as kissing and all that, now her views on it are blurred just as she's trying to blur MC's views on it. Lacey admits during the Damian scene that it's "more intimate" than she thought it would be (EDIT: The reason why I don't add the "I don't remember being this turned on back in college" as further evidence is because MC was watching her. Lacey couldn't cum with Morty until MC told her to cum. Therefore, I think that line was specifically focused on her feeling like MC was there with her during her high)

For the fair (pure speculation here), My best guess about what happened was a guy forced a kiss on her. Maybe Stephen or Lorenzo wanted to get closer, and Mia convinced Lacey to go to the fair with them. Mia whispered to the guy to get them to kiss her (she thought it would be funny). They kissed Lacey, and Lacey immediately broke things off with them. I think that's why Lacey reacted angrily when Mia was going to bring it up, because it wasn't consensual.

You might be on to something with the first part. Like she is rationalizing all the other as "not the same", because kissing MC is special for her so it's the "real" one. But it's just that.

Seeing her practically devouring Morty, reveals she really doesn't ascribe anything special to kissing in general. And with Damian was also very organic and natural. Like a routine she would do casually with her more normal past relationships. Being high removed any thought of consequence from repeating her making out routine in front of MC. Then she saw the video sober and was like "oh fuck, he saw that".

I wouldn't pay much attention in what she says after the fact about Damian. She always says shit that show some kind of repentance and fault admitting in a very calculated way. She knew MC would have zeroed in on that immediately after watching the video herself.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

To be fair, if what I suggested is what happened (totally possible it's not), then it makes total sense that Lacey would react so strongly. Like, I wouldn't blame Lacey for not considering it a kiss if it was forced. I am a firm believer that a future Act (maybe 3 since Mia and Lacey are there without most of the crew) will have Lacey and Mia get into a huge argument.

If it happens, then I think the motorcycle and fair will be mentioned as points for how Mia was never a good friend to Lacey, and with the recent ketamine thing, she still isn't

While i also think, that Lacey definitely did some kissing in college, I don’t think the comment about the fair was related to that, though it obviously doesn’t exclude the possibility. What she actually did at the fair is probably related to more NSFW activities

I think her strong reaction was based on how the answers to the toothbrush, dicknames, spending the day naked, outdoor sex and the foodplay were obviously hurting and triggering MC, so she wanted Mia to finally stop drudging up unnecessary stuff

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I am out of rections, so I will say it, I agree with all the first part of your post, unsurprisingly.

On your idea of that now Lacey sees sex differently, you are spot on, it is stated by her.
She now "enjoys" sex as it is more active and intimate and she blames MC for that (bad Lacey! BAD!).

For the fair I think it wasn't a kiss, it was left ambiguos but Lacey and the others have sworn to honestly and she has been very honest for the whole game, even on very hurtful topics. (the worst one for me was the toothbrush for some reason, because she denies MC).
So she really didn't kiss, but she was doing other stuff.



Holy shit, and here I thought you were a chill guy

But yeah, so MC got a first for sure!

Just on the toothbrush incident it annoyed me as well , but I don't get why she's opposed to stuff like that sober , cause let's face it fuck knows what she's had in her mouth in her past

You could tell me she's sucked on a prolapsed anus and I'd believe it

So what is she trying to achieve by trying to act all reserved around the MC even though he knows the worst of the worst

 

[DeviantFun]

While i also think, that Lacey definitely did some kissing in college, I don’t think the comment about the fair was related to that, though it obviously doesn’t exclude the possibility.

I think her strong reaction was based on how the answers to the toothbrush, dicknames, spending the day naked, outdoor sex and the foodplay were obviously hurting and triggering MC, so she wanted Mia to finally stop drudging up unnecessary stuff

That is definitely the case.

But I still think she tried to answer truthfully, maybe avoiding the worse stuff.

No one believe this one anymore, yes?

L "I did save my kiss for you."

Just on the toothbrush incident it annoyed me as well , but I don't get why she's opposed to stuff like that sober , cause let's face it fuck knows what she's had in her mouth in her past

You could tell me she's sucked on a prolapsed anus and I'd believe it

So what is she trying to achieve by trying to act all reserved around the MC even though he knows the worst of the worst

Well the continuation of that dialogue is...

L "But my mouth... oh my beautiful mouth..."
L "So many delicious cocks were shoved into it."

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Just on the toothbrush incident it annoyed me as well , but I don't get why she's opposed to stuff like that sober , cause let's face it fuck knows what she's had in her mouth in her past

You could tell me she's sucked on a prolapsed anus and I'd believe it

So what is she trying to achieve by trying to act all reserved around the MC even though he knows the worst of the worst

What made these games hurt, was that besides all the sexual first, was that apparently (all of) Laceys emotional intimate firsts, as well as the small mundane things in a relationship also don’t just belong to Lacey and MC

 

[Chaoticjustice]

You guys make me think.

I still want believe the kiss didn't happen but it would line up with the other never I have ever: "ridden a motorcycle".

Here Lacey says she never has the chance to.
The pimp, like the insensitive bitch that she is, says: "Although, there was that one time they had a motorcycle in...".

So Lacey here has been ridden ON a motorcycle but never rode a motorcycle.
Which makes her statement true, but obviously insincere.
If we apply the same logic to the fair, then yes, she probably kissed or was forced to, but it wasn't a "real" kiss or it wasn't on one of the rides.



This was one of my theories that Act 2 kind of dismantled with the "I will never leave him even if I fall out of love" dialogue.
I always thought she was dependant and grateful to MC, with a great need to be accepted by the only "good" figure in her life.

But then we see how she separates her gratitude strongly from her love, so I am in doubt.

So she may be in love with him but im curious to know what her actual understanding of it is as cause no doubt its some skewed version of it

 

[Chaoticjustice]

What made these games hurt, was that besides all the sexual first, was that apparently (all of) Laceys emotional intimate firsts, as well as the small mundane things in a relationship also don’t just belong to Lacey and MC

Oooo absolutely I agree , but now that I think about it I would of liked to of seen a bigger scene in regards to her mental dick pic name collection