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winterwolf200

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I get that. But why she didn`t like that ? She saw her having sex many times and liked it, what changed ?
Mia never saw Lacey and MC have sex, did she ? Could it be that she jealous ? Wonder if she will get a chance to see that in Vegas, what her reaction would be ?

Maybe I am blowing it out of proportion, make of that what you will. Just found it curious.
Mia might have seen MC and Lacey sex it up. We know she used a picture of the MC's dick to have a dildo mold made. Who knows what else Lacey showed her.
 

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I think Mia mentioned that Lorenzo was Lacey's 1st big dick. Too soon for red bra revelation. Not doing enough drugs yet.
If anything that's the perfect time then as shes not completely blasted out of her mind , personally I don't see the theory fitting or if it is the case the Lacey's lies continue
 
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I think Mia mentioned that Lorenzo was Lacey's 1st big dick. Too soon for red bra revelation. Not doing enough drugs yet.
Not true, Lacey started K well before meeting the pimp.
Lorenzo is in college phase 2, Lacey was tired of being treated like shit and he was sweet because she was the only one that didn't kick him out after seeing the goods (aside from being sweet himself.)

We have a wonderful timeline offered by CrysusPariah2 if you don't want to look into the source material.
 
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I also understood that as her kissing at the fair but not on a ride.

Lacey is the queen of half truths. You could easily make a list with all the times she has used this exact technique in order to hide something.
Well the interesting part is, that MC's sensitive sensors start to trigger...and of course we get curious about this.
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I get that. But why she didn`t like that ? She saw her having sex many times and liked it, what changed ?
Mia never saw Lacey and MC have sex, did she ? Could it be that she jealous ? Wonder if she will get a chance to see that in Vegas, what her reaction would be ?

Maybe I am blowing it out of proportion, make of that what you will. Just found it curious.
Mia knows adult Lacey better than anyone and has seen her at her sluttiest. But it's pretty clear she has never seen her dropping love bombs while cock juggling. That's what shocked her and reacted like that. Especially since it was about a fat depressed old dude. She knew something was very wrong but couldn't figure out it's fake. So she turns to her like wtf, why are you like this here? It didn't fit with anything she knows about her.
 

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I get that. But why she didn`t like that ? She saw her having sex many times and liked it, what changed ?
Mia never saw Lacey and MC have sex, did she ? Could it be that she jealous ? Wonder if she will get a chance to see that in Vegas, what her reaction would be ?

Maybe I am blowing it out of proportion, make of that what you will. Just found it curious.
Because now the pimp understands she fucked up royally, still doesn't understand why, but now she sees that Lacey ultimate goal for happiness was MC.

So now Lacey good wife for MC is the new "true Lacey" that she wants to see destroy everything so she can see if that is the truth or not.

That is what she is referring to.

The "true Lacey" that lives in the pimp mind ARE NOT what Lacey is.

True, but the othe witness is Lacey. Who is more believable?
Between the pimp and Lacey, always Lacey without a doubt in the world.

Well the interesting part is, that MC's sensitive sensors start to trigger...and of course we get curious about this.
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That is a common thing for both paths, it is used narratively to show you that there is some past hidden.
Again, more believable that she got fucked hard somewhere at the fair compared to kissing.

Which btw, is what Lacey is always worried about with MC because it is the only thing they have for themselves.

As I said, I know the material pretty well, make your own conclusions but don't fall into simple traps like these, the game is full of other bigger and more dangerous ones.
 

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I don't think so as Mia mentioned a one time incident!
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I've mentioned my idea on this a few times, but I do believe Lacey when she says MC was her first kiss. However, it's possible she kissed someone's cock or something on a ferris wheel.

My personal speculation about it when it gets covered in a future Act is that I think Mia told Stephen, Lorenzo, or one of her "boyfriends" that Lacey didn't want them just for sex. That if they give her a big kiss, that Lacey will fall for them. They do it, forcing a kiss on Lacey, and she gets mad (hence, why she has such a strong reaction when Mia starts to bring it up.). Lacey doesn't consider it a kiss since it wasn't voluntary

EDIT: I'll mention that this only works if the professor is planning a day of reckoning for Mia, which I'm personally really really hoping for. If Mia never gets consequences, then it's not worth Mia being the one to cause this. It'd be more dramatic if it was something like Lacey lying about her first kiss or Kissing someone's cock on a ferris wheel or something like that
 
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I know what part of the VN you are referring to, I played that specific part around 40 to 50 times.

Her kissing would clash with several things even before the marriage and what Lacey says after.
I mean I understand the "Let's bash Lacey at every opportunity" mentality, but it is way easier explained with her being gangbanged in the chemical toilet than kissing.

Notice how Mia doesn't say "it is not true" she says "Although", she implies she did something else or different, same as the motorcycle thing, she didn't ride but she was ridden on it.

Anyway, make your own interpretation, just be careful not to fall into the "Lacey bad forever" loophole, because it will ruin your enjoyment of the game in my opinion, since you won't have to work to understand what lies beyond.
As i said before my guess is that this one particular part is related to Lorenzo or even someone else like an older professor and the secret Lacey is still keeping from MC.
It's something MC is not ready to get told, yet and not my way like you said to stamp Lacey bad forever!
 
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As i said before my guess is that this one particular part is related to Lorenzo or even someone else like an older professor and the secret Lacey is still keeping from MC.
It's something MC is not ready to get told, yet and not my way like you said to stamp Lacey bad forever!
Ah professors have not been thrown in the league yet.

Only some folks (Maviarab AL.d Diosvincenccio was it you guys?) theorized that she managed to graduate thanks to sexual favors :ROFLMAO: .

But yeah there is still a lot to uncover about Lacey's past, what she did, how much fun she actually had, what does the last pictures mean etc..

I have my personal ideas that I've posted several times that I try to keep strictly based on the material, but let's say that the story is written in a way that tried to subvert expectations (usually towards a more favourable outcome).

So what do we know? she might have had a kissing booth at the fair ;)
 

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As i said before my guess is that this one particular part is related to Lorenzo or even someone else like an older professor and the secret Lacey is still keeping from MC.
It's something MC is not ready to get told, yet and not my way like you said to stamp Lacey bad forever!
The biggest thing is why would Lacey lie about it? Why would she say
L "I did save my kiss for you."
L "But my mouth... oh my beautiful mouth..."
L "So many delicious cocks were shoved into it.

Why lie about the kiss if she's literally admitting to doing anything and everything with someone else.

I wouldn't really consider it a plot hole if it turns out that she lied, or at least believes her own lie, but Lacey makes a big deal about kissing multiple times. Until a future Act proves me wrong, I'm convinced that this part alone Lacey is being honest about (at least when it comes to consensual kisses)
 

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Ah professors have not been thrown in the league yet.

Only some folks (Maviarab AL.d Diosvincenccio was it you guys?) theorized that she managed to graduate thanks to sexual favors :ROFLMAO: .

But yeah there is still a lot to uncover about Lacey's past, what she did, how much fun she actually had, what does the last pictures mean etc..

I have my personal ideas that I've posted several times that I try to keep strictly based on the material, but let's say that the story is written in a way that tried to subvert expectations (usually towards a more favourable outcome).

So what do we know? she might have had a kissing booth at the fair ;)
It was mostly a joke :LOL:

But you know...statistically speaking....

The biggest thing is why would Lacey lie about it? Why would she say
L "I did save my kiss for you."
L "But my mouth... oh my beautiful mouth..."
L "So many delicious cocks were shoved into it.

Why lie about the kiss if she's literally admitting to doing anything and everything with someone else.

I wouldn't really consider it a plot hole if it turns out that she lied, or at least believes her own lie, but Lacey makes a big deal about kissing multiple times. Until a future Act proves me wrong, I'm convinced that this part alone Lacey is being honest about (at least when it comes to consensual kisses)
Because she knows that would hurt him even more? Dude is a romantic at heart.

I mean think of it this way. We have seen Lacey with other dudes a grand total of two times in the game. Both of those times she was extremely willing to shove her tongue into their mouths. A two for two.

Now think of her college numbers. I'm sorry but numbers are just not in her favor.
 
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It was mostly a joke :LOL:

But you know...statistically speaking....
I worked at a TA and lecturer at university, no one i know acted on it, but the lengths some students were willing to go to to boost a grade was quite shocking
One got caught live propositioning a prof whil he still had his mic on :ROFLMAO:
 
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Only some folks (@Maviarab @AL.d @Diosvincenccio was it you guys?) theorized that she managed to graduate thanks to sexual favors :ROFLMAO: .
Like AL.d, it was mostly a joke, then again who knows, part of the story is that Lacey being like that it could be exactly that. But nope, just a joke.
 

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It was mostly a joke :LOL:

But you know...statistically speaking....
Well. Joke or not, she did mention she relapsed 10 or 11 times during her senior year.
And I'm still not convinced that the goblin shark in the story is actually Isaac, because he was not " broken" like her. Even though, at the pool during King weekend, she calls Isaac one of her exes and Lorenzo a ghost from her past.
 
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Wouldn't it be funny to find out that Mia is right about Lorenzo and Lacey is not? After all, she only knew dick nicknames, not faces or names.
And when Lorenzo gets shy about the MC's dick question, it would be for something like ... him being made fun of because no girl can handle his size (except Lacey), and he stayed a virgin because of it.
The MC assumes that he's the tiny pecker, though it's not confirmed. But what would be the point of a character like this be anyway? Why is he still around if not to shock an unguarded MC down the road.
NO, enough pain for MC
 
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On this surely the heartbreak of losing the person you love is easier than the heartbreak of the person you love constantly hurting you , cheating/forcibly cucking you , lying consistently, purposely withholding information from you , generally not giving a fuck about your feelings etc the list goes on and on

Also just gonna leave this here wonder why this feels fimaliar

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Q: Can trauma bond become true love? A: Trauma bonds rarely transform into healthy love because they're built on power imbalance rather than mutual respect. For any chance at transformation, the abuse must completely end, both parties must heal individually, and entirely new relationship patterns must form - well shit and yes I know it's a game but still
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NO, enough pain for MC
There's really nothing else that he could be a threat for the Mc with. I mean he's after Lacey, obviously. How would he hope to get her? True love's kiss?
Even as a special k girls pawn...why micro-penis Lorenzo?
 

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The biggest thing is why would Lacey lie about it? Why would she say
L "I did save my kiss for you."
L "But my mouth... oh my beautiful mouth..."
L "So many delicious cocks were shoved into it.

Why lie about the kiss if she's literally admitting to doing anything and everything with someone else.

I wouldn't really consider it a plot hole if it turns out that she lied, or at least believes her own lie, but Lacey makes a big deal about kissing multiple times. Until a future Act proves me wrong, I'm convinced that this part alone Lacey is being honest about (at least when it comes to consensual kisses)
You might be right. It was just the fact that Mia got immediately shut up after mentioning that one time at a fair at college by Lacey.
It just left the impression both were exactly aware of which incident she was referring to and it leaves some bittersweet taste to it.
My guess it happened during her getting back to track phase, her last year at college.
 
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Well. Joke or not, she did mention she relapsed 10 or 11 times during her senior year.
And I'm still not convinced that the goblin shark in the story is actually Isaac, because he was not " broken" like her. Even though, at the pool during King weekend, she calls Isaac one of her exes and Lorenzo a ghost from her past.
Lacey says
L "We had a shared bond."
L "Two people who didn't know where they belonged and were trying to figure their lives out."

I'm not saying with absolute certainty that you are wrong, but Lacey mentions that she and Isaac had a shared bond twice
 
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