VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[DeviantFun]

Funny thing. True Lacey maybe closer to what Mia imagine than you think. After all actions speak louder than words, and so far Lacey did very little to change her mind.
There is some truth to her philosophy. If she can easily push you to do something that means you want to do it, if you resist than you dont. Sure, she may be personally unhappy with the results but it was in the name of truth. Lacey`s you could`ve asked me to Mia could be same gaslighting as you could`ve stopped me( Baldy kiss) to MC. Maybe thats why Lacey keeps Mia around, she doesn't really blame her.
So if Lacey really not who Mia thinks she is she need to do better.

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Happy 100th page anniversary, everybody !

Happy anniversary! at least we didn't miss it like Mc and Lacey!

That philosophy is VERY dangerous and harmful, you can find plenty of hurt and weak people that would offer very little resistance.
Even people that are easily manipulated, seeking validation or harbor trauma (such as Mc with his abandonement trauma)
Lacey fell in most of the categories.

It is monstrous behaviour, you should be very mindful of who you have in front of you, the pimp doesn't give a fuck.
Look at Kelly, now on the bench.

Lacey during that period of time was in her usual live by the day mode or even survival mode.
She is mature enough to not place blame on her, because in the end she let that happen and she is very find of her pimp, but looking from outside we can't help but judge the situation and it doesn't look good.

I think the narrative mostly shows that Lacey was doing what she was doing Junior year for reasons somewhat outside of sexual gratification. The important thing to remember is that each answer for the games for her favorite sex memories were not because of the sex, it was the implications of the sex. If Lacey loved the sex/being a slut during Junior year, then I'd agree with you. However, like I said, it seems like that was a by product of being in a spiral of harming herself as a game her and Mia played

Always the voice of reason, saves me a lot of time typing .

I see it exactly as you, even though during the first and second phase the "I am doing it for MC - I am succeeding step by step" feeling was strong.

M_nvl "Such an obedient girl"
M_nvl "Would always stop to announce that she was doing this for you"
M_nvl "Awww, isn't she just adorable"
M_nvl "Know what she did after this?"
MC_nvl "What?"
M_nvl "She picked up her phone and hit play"
MC_nvl "What was she listening to?"
M_nvl "You singing her fucking happy birthday"
M_nvl "Again!"
M_nvl "God she must have listened to that crap four hundred times in her junior year alone"
M_nvl "Cried like a good little future wife"
M_nvl "I hated hearing about how much she missed you"

And here you have it folks, our favourite abuser at work!

I know that part, but you could just have inserted the 2 lines above from the script you just highllghted...
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Which do not change the concept one bit and I addressed by saying "this is what hurts MC the most".
Which is NOT what hurts Lacey the most or why she is in that state.

 

[Dragonlight]

I think the narrative mostly shows that Lacey was doing what she was doing Junior year for reasons somewhat outside of sexual gratification. The important thing to remember is that each answer for the games for her favorite sex memories were not because of the sex, it was the implications of the sex. If Lacey loved the sex/being a slut during Junior year, then I'd agree with you. However, like I said, it seems like that was a by product of being in a spiral of harming herself as a game her and Mia played

I dont talk from narrative stand point.
I mean from Mia`s pov Lacey continuing to slut it up. Jared, Damian etc. Lacey is talking the talk, but refuses to walk the walk. The change now is that she cares what the MC will think of her.

That kind of takes some heat away from Mia, makes her more bearable.

Happy anniversary! at least we didn't miss it like Mc and Lacey!

That philosophy is VERY dangerous and harmful, you can find plenty of hurt and weak people that would offer very little resistance.
Even people that are easily manipulated, seeking validation or harbor trauma (such as Mc with his abandonement trauma)
Lacey fell in most of the categories.

It is monstrous behaviour, you should be very mindful of who you have in front of you, the pimp doesn't give a fuck.
Look at Kelly, now on the bench.

Lacey during that period of time was in her usual live by the day mode or even survival mode.
She is mature enough to not place blame on her, because in the end she let that happen and she is very find of her pimp, but looking from outside we can't help but judge the situation and it doesn't look good.

Agreed. I didn`t say she is justified in what she do. I think its all coming to confrontation between Mia and Lacey in Vegas. Something like Mia will push her to do something, but will be met with Lacey`s firm resistance. Mia`s worldview will crumble and we will get a long awaited reckoning. I hope we will get something like that.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

Which do not change the concept one bit and I addressed by saying "this is what hurts MC the most".
Which is NOT what hurts Lacey the most or why she is in that state.

She would have been hurt earlier (and also MC) if Mia the pimp gets to tell the story before the dicknames incident.
None of the glamorous women there would have expected that MC's dick was not only a dry swimmer but also a nameless one in the past.

 

[Maviarab]

She would have been hurt earlier (and also MC) if Mia the pimp gets to told the story before the dicknames incident.
None of the glamorous women there would have expected that MC's dick was not only a dry swimmer but also a nameless one.

He isn't a dry swimmer....

Please go and play it all again...and read things slowly and comprehend what's being said...then come back.

 

[Gattsu#Struggler]

He isn't a dry swimmer....

Please go and play it all again...and read things slowly and comprehend what's being said...then come back.

I said was a dry swimmer and that's the truth until he met Lacey again...and all the glamorous women at the slumber party are well aware of it!

Besides who needs text there are even pictures to understand what's going on
It just can't teach you the difference between is and was, right!?

 

[DeviantFun]

I dont talk from narrative stand point.
I mean from Mia`s pov Lacey continuing to slut it up. Jared, Damian etc. Lacey is talking the talk, but refuses to walk the walk. The change now is that she cares what the MC will think of her.

That kind of takes some heat away from Mia, makes her more bearable.



Agreed. I didn`t say she is justified in what she do. I think its all coming to confrontation between Mia and Lacey in Vegas. Something like Mia will push her to do something, but will be met with Lacey`s firm resistance. Mia`s worldview will crumble and we will get a long awaited reckoning. I hope we will get something like that.

I would love that, it seems that Lacey and her pimp already fixed things, but I really hope that a confrontation happens.
It will ruin MC honeymoon, but at least the pimp will get a kick up her ass.

Which is not only about seeing the pimp get her comeuppance, but to finally get the dirt out.

He isn't a dry swimmer....

Please go and play it all again...and read things slowly and comprehend what's being said...then come back.

I was wondering if the problem were my poor english skills.

 

[Maviarab]

I would love that, it seems that Lacey and her pimp already fixed things, but I really hope that a confrontation happens.
It will ruin MC honeymoon, but at least the pimp will get a kick up her ass.

Which is not only about seeing the pimp get her comeuppance, but to finally get the dirt out.

And as we storm off out of the casino...Jeanette and Abi take us to their room and show us who really loves us?

Please? Pretty please?

 

[winterwolf200]

You know what's going to happen? The MC is going to end up staying behind for whatever reason. Maybe just for a few days. And he'll send Lacey on the trip for her own safety, because of The Monster's warning. Act 3 is going with the phone NTS/NTR trope harder than her work trip with Veronica.
Ah. Dawned on me that they'll probably tell themselves that it's an opportunity to experience that separation anxiety training that Lacey presented as a goal after her therapy session.
Besides, she's going with JEANETTE and Mia. What could possibly...

 

[DeviantFun]

And as we storm off out of the casino...Jeanette and Abi take us to their room and show us who really loves us?

Please? Pretty please?

You know, I am not a great fan of her design or her character in general (getting angry at MC due to a promotion for example).

But you can be sure that submission counter is going to be boosted by yours truly!

 

[Ragnar]

 

[CrysusPariah2]

This thread has been suspiciously quiet today…

 

[duane71]

This thread has been suspiciously quiet today…

At some point everything has been said until we get a new update, I guess?

 

[Maviarab]

This thread has been suspiciously quiet today…

Been busy with life chores....housework....laundry....figuring out why my new (to me) 5 year old Volvo can't read fucking folders on my music usb....

You know...usual shizz

 

[DeviantFun]

This thread has been suspiciously quiet today…

Come on, you know exactly why, go read your private messages .

I will post a point of discussion later because I think it would be an interesting conversation.

Been busy with life chores....housework....laundry....figuring out why my new (to me) 5 year old Volvo can't read fucking folders on my music usb....

You know...usual shizz

Nice, what did you get?

 

[Saphfire]

i just hop in here to not miss the 100th page celebration.

 

[anongamer1983]

I know for me, I'll probably be mostly quiet until Act 3 unless an interesting conversation pops up. I did just start playing the professor's first game to see if I can get a better understanding of their writing style.

I'm only into like the 2nd update so far (maybe the third?). While there are some similarities, I'm not sure how much I'll get out of it (though I'll power through to the end!).

Spoiler: Thoughts so far

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As stated before, I'll play it till I finish it, but I'm not optimistic since they feel like such different games to play so far.

 

[48914891]

I also understood that as her kissing at the fair but not on a ride.

Lacey is the queen of half truths. You could easily make a list with all the times she has used this exact technique in order to hide something.

She got GB'd in the house of mirrors. No kissing though

 

[Lestrouduc]

I know for me, I'll probably be mostly quiet until Act 3 unless an interesting conversation pops up. I did just start playing the professor's first game to see if I can get a better understanding of their writing style.

I'm only into like the 2nd update so far (maybe the third?). While there are some similarities, I'm not sure how much I'll get out of it (though I'll power through to the end!).

Spoiler: Thoughts so far

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As stated before, I'll play it till I finish it, but I'm not optimistic since they feel like such different games to play so far.

Yes, even if the writing is good, it has nothing to do with Love and Jealousy....

 

[CrysusPariah2]

She got GB'd in the house of mirrors. No kissing though

That’s the exact scenario i was picturing

 

[DeviantFun]

This thread has been suspiciously quiet today…

there you go, some food for thought.

On the topic of MC having multiple relationships / open relationship (or love experiment if you like to twist words) and doing that not fitting his character.

If I have to be honest I think it fits MC perfectly, as he gains more self worth some traits of his personality come out quite strongly.

He is an incorrigible flirt and he does it out of desire and attention more than Lacey.
I would need to go back and pin point the exact moment I noticed it, but the scene with the pimp at the club in act 1 is a good example.

He feels the weight of all those lost years, all those chances and desires missed or put on hold.
This is why in act 2 my biggest regret choice is always Anna, it is closely tied to his lost time and that he won't be able to take back or redo (also because it is the only thing that makes sense).

He does have hang ups, but mostly because that he does have some integrity (sometimes, how he acts with bethany in both acts and jeanette in act 2 is disgusting) and he feels like Lacey would be angry and leave him.

On the other hand Lacey couldn't give a fuck if he fucks around, her only fear is the emotional aspect of "cheating" (did you know that on average people feel more pain when their partner falls in love with someone else than if they have sex? just saw some article today) and losing MC affection and "jealousy" towards her.
She does feel that sex could be a way to lose him but that is because it is the only thing she can give him, good head and an ass able to accept enormous objects.
But that is it, she has nothing else in her eyes, I mean, she tries but you know how it goes.
She is unable to make him feel safe and loved, which is basic basic struff in a relationship.

This is why the she wants to fuck other men line never sticks with me, it goes against her primal fear of loss.
When she does it is always tied to an uterior motive (then since she is a slut with daddy issues she gets into it).

I would like to add that his "lost time" is interpreted always sexually, however, Lacey is very clear when she talks about giving him "experiences", that are still mostly related to dating, to make him see how worthy of love he is.

Although, I would have loved an angle where they would go to concerts, raves, whatever you can think of so he can get back also those moments.
Obviously half if not all of them will be already tainted by Lacey's past, as she probably got fucked on stage at a concert for example, still it would really reinforce the idea of reclaiming those 4 years.

For all this to work we need an enourmous amount of suspension of disbelief, since even if we are drawn to believe that he is the most handsome and good looking man on the planet, his character is obviously repulsive.
Even one of his positive traits, which is true compassion, is actually rather off putting for potential partners, I would personally feel unsafe if my partner was unable to draw lines to avoid people that hurt her or us in the past.
He is whiny, broken, unable to be honest with his emotions and, more often than not, incompetent and passive.

And I understand that he is a victim, that garners pity and simpathy, but surely not affection and love.