VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[CrysusPariah2]

Exactly my thoughts. They need a seperation or maybe even a divorce because atm the MC´s options are very limited.
He would never cheat as long as he is in a relationship with Lacey, he would only be able to collect breadcrumbs thrown athim by Lacey.

Girls like Yue, Jeanette or Bethany would never date someone who is in a relationship. I tried to explain this weeks or months ago to DF
and act 2 has not changed my opinion. Lacey would never fall back to the version she was in college.

Regarding MC, i don´t see him as many in this thread do. Yes he is weak now because he had never have the chance to grow as a person. He spend 13years completely devoted to Lacey plus 4 years of self inflicted isolation from college life.

How can he be a strong, confident human being without any life experience? He needs time to grow and he will grow the fastest without her constantly dragging him down.

I like your reasoning as to MC is so meek, which in turn could lead to immense character growth. DeviantFun isn’t wrong when he describes MC as a witness

i think you misunderstood what winterwolf200 said about Dark Lacey. I don’t think they were referring to college era Lacey, but this ominous “Other Side” that Mc has been keeping at bay instead

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Well, with the whole unreliable narrator, and I will need DeviantFun here I think, at what point does it definitively switch from the MC recounting the past to actual present time?

The 3 month mark after the pimps lessons began IIRC

 

[CrysusPariah2]

I had a long response written up, but I deleted it because it's all speculation, and since there isn't enough information about college yet, it's just not worth discussion (yet). I'll summarize it by saying that Anna and Mia both specifically mention that their actions were based off seeing how badly Lacey was hurting MC. However, Anna has already seen that. She left MC during Sophomore year over it for a few days, and then again in Junior year.

Speculate away!

 

[Maviarab]

i was checking this, and some of that almost happened word by word, will happen, or became close to one of the Kings weekend fantasies.



Yes the name predicted for the girls are wrong, but the largest dildo became the black Isaac lookalike dildo. The sharing the bed was with Kelly and maybe in future sharing MC with girls scenes. The king thing happened to a extent. The tie someone up (kidnapping) and the strap-on tag team are outright some of the fantasies of the Kings week.

Great catch and comment.

No no no the black one won't do at all - time to pull out this monster ( this is actually something you can buy on Amazon btw)

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[DeviantFun]

Thats part of what i meant by becoming the fixer of the relationship, Lacey fucks up and she comes to the rescue. Allowing lacey to tell her version of the story with barely some remarks, like the deleted video that you rightly mentioned.

As for the cliffs...they really through he was gonna off himself. Thats what made Mia attitud so bad, she was like, "yeah dude im here forced to be. Go on, do whatever you want. We are waiting, do a flip"

Both Anna and the pimp cover that role, always picking up behind Lacey's messes and invalidating MC at every turn.

The attitude of the pimp on the cliffs is so so so shit that I can't belive it was added, the objective was obviously to make us see the pimp as a "funny sassy girl", mission failed, she sounded like a proper cunt of a woman.

And to be honest what I actually like about the crew, is that is consistent with Jeanette and Christine not liking Lacey one bit, sure Christine accepts the pimp like it was nothing, just citing "the past" even if she read the messages the pimp sent MC, but I will take what the game gives in terms of consistency.

More than that, she has first hand experience and she is already at the end of the journey. She is cautious about Lacey, shes not gonna antagonize her directly since she dosent have anything to win but shes not gonna fall into Lacey piramide of control like the others.

Now a Dianne full stalker that made her mission in life to save that man (MC), that would be funny to watch.

You know? I think Dianne is still interested in MC at least physically, because when she leaves from MC home she says:

L "So, still want to dance with him?"
D "I don't know lacey, he is pretty handsome."
D "It might be fun."
L "So, I'll see you later?"

Honestly I hope Dianne could become a LI, I like her moxy (cit.) and her design.

 

[Sayora]

Dianne is clearly interested in MC, otherwise she simply would not have approached him in the bar and the fact that she continues to help him confirms this
So expect a replenishment of the harem
fortunately for MC this is a very worthy specimen and in my opinion the best model of those presented

 

[Maviarab]

So to sum up what we know:

FV is external, or is working at Barty's management company, and is a recent hire in the last month.
(Other than Jared/Evan, has anyone recently 'lost' their job that we can recall or...hehe...recently moved to the city?)

Intern is at V/Pimp/Banshee and Succubus' workplace. Muttley using her.
(Is she also an intern in the design dept...how did he find out she could deep fake?)

Safe to assume Intern knows who the succubus is?
(So therefore is happy to fuck her over, and/or at least doesn't care about making porn fakes of her. If above is true, then she definitely knows the succubus.)

According to the monster...whoever uploaded the video, came from Barty's company.
(So how did this person access the MC's company or private storage? Their own skills or had help from within perhaps?)

The Monster seems to know an awful lot, but also seems to be ignorant over some what 'we' assume to be pretty basic knowledge.
(So, dominos falling. How is FV and their plan tied to the pimp and her initial plan and how are all his friends going to betray the MC? The way TM says it and for me, betray means intention.)



Following on from that, some thoughts and Q's:

Have any of us thought about the possibility that FV isn't a guy at all. I think we are all assuming them to be, but what if they are a woman? Does that open up any other avenues of thought?

If the MC clueless about hiring a expert to find out, is Christine going to do her own investigation as to how/who/where the upload came from?

How did FV meet Erica? By chance (for real) or intentionally 'by accident'. Following on from this, when is the MC going to meet Erica? She has to be somewhat relevant, or that whole convo with her and Muttley is just wasted dev time. We could find out he 'improving himself' a myriad of other ways.

When FV realises we have moved....will they just continue their plan as before (another video) or switch plans and if switching, to what I wonder?

 

[radical686]

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[Maviarab]

bc it didn't make sense.

All it comes down to. Like having a weekend in Vegas instead of calling the police on your landlord and then staying the night knowing they been in your apt and not even changing the locks....or barricading the door. I mean, would you be ablew to sleep? At least send your wife somewhere else for the night....

Roll with it lol....

 

[Dragonlight]

Intern is at V/Pimp/Banshee and Succubus' workplace. Muttley using her.
(Is she also an intern in the design dept...how did he find out she could deep fake?)

Safe to assume Intern knows who the succubus is?
(So therefore is happy to fuck her over, and/or at least doesn't care about making porn fakes of her. If above is true, then she definitely knows the succubus.)

Are we even sure that the intern from work is the one doing deepfakes, or she is used as an stand in for Lacey ?
FV called her ''blonde girl'', same as in the video. If that`s the case she may not know for whom she is standing in.

The Monster seems to know an awful lot, but also seems to be ignorant over some what 'we' assume to be pretty basic knowledge.
(So, dominos falling. How is FV and their plan tied to the pimp and her initial plan and how are all his friends going to betray the MC? The way TM says it and for me, betray means intention.)

Have any of us thought about the possibility that FV isn't a guy at all. I think we are all assuming them to be, but what if they are a woman? Does that open up any other avenues of thought?

How did FV meet Erica? By chance (for real) or intentionally 'by accident'. Following on from this, when is the MC going to meet Erica? She has to be somewhat relevant, or that whole convo with her and Muttley is just wasted dev time. We could find out he 'improving himself' a myriad of other ways.

I am wondering about that too.

Look at that dialogue between Will and FV

WR "Not exactly sure what that means, but it sounds cool."
FAV "Erica tells me you're insatiable."
WR "You know Erica?
FAV "We've met once by happenstance."
FAV "The topic of you came up and now here we are."

And this. Anna and Will at the store.

WI "We're in an open relationship."
WI "We're allowed to see other people."
WI "Heck, sometimes we share them."
A "I see."
A "Speaking of progressive."
WI "Hey, don't knock it."
WI "It's helped open up a whole new world of possibilities."
WI "We've never been happier."
WI "Plus, I have... well let's just say a big appetite."
WI "It's hard for Erica to keep up with me."
A "..."

So Anna knows about about Erica(Will dropped her name here) and Will`s sexual appetite. So could she be FV, or am I digging to deep ? Honestly, taking the writing style in to account that wouldn`t surprise me.

 

[Doomly]

Have any of us thought about the possibility that FV isn't a guy at all. I think we are all assuming them to be, but what if they are a woman? Does that open up any other avenues of thought?

Will states he is "working with a guy" in his conversation with Erica about his new side gig.

 

[Maviarab]

Are we even sure that the intern from work is the one doing deepfakes, or she is used as an stand in for Lacey ?
FV called her ''blonde girl'', same as in the video. If that`s the case she may not know for whom she is standing in.

Yeah not too sure on this now with the conversation. Doing ddepfakes...not making them. Thinking the intern is the one getting fucked and she was told her face would be changed.

So could she be FV, or am I digging to deep ? Honestly, taking the writing style in to account that wouldn`t surprise me.

Will states he is "working with a guy" in his conversation with Erica about his new side gig.

Yeah unless at the cafe she has a real deep voice lol, it has to be a guy. Plus at the end, seems like they are in the same room watching the feed, so surely Muttley would know it's a guy.

 

[anongamer1983]

Will says "He", "guy", "dude", and "man" when referring to Familiar Voice.

As far as the intern goes, she was mentioned as early as Evan and Jared. She's a new intern in Accounting, Anna's department
Further, an intern was mentioned as being in the storage closet with Jared from the security videos, though I'm not sure that'd be the same intern (It was a year worth of footage)

 

[Dragonlight]

Yeah unless at the cafe she has a real deep voice lol, it has to be a guy. Plus at the end, seems like they are in the same room watching the feed, so surely Muttley would know it's a guy.

Yeah lol, unless she`s using another stand in. But if there`s will(writer`s) there is a way.

Will says "He", "guy", "dude", and "man" when referring to Familiar Voice.

Honestly cant find it.

Will states he is "working with a guy" in his conversation with Erica about his new side gig.

The only case of Will referring to FV I could confirm.

 

[anongamer1983]

Honestly cant find it.

(convo with Familiar Voice)
WR "(mumbling) How will I even know what this dude looks like?"
WR "(mumbling) If he doesn't show up in like two minutes..."
...
WR "Hey man, there's no reason for all the name calling."

(convo with Erica)
WI "Working with a guy to help start a new business."

 

[Doomly]

I myself have been pondering over who FV could be. I assume it is a guy since will refrences it in the erica conversation, but what male in the story would have the motive.

FV stares his motive is to get rich by starting the special K website, but never refrences wanting to have sex with any of the girls himself in any of his conversations with Will to my knowledge.

Evan is assumed to still be in jail after he was arrested (unless someone bailed him out)

Jared is assumed to be defeated and a cuck to bella now (unless he is still hell bent on revenge, he may need the money now, has cuck fetish so would enjoy watching instead of participating?)

Damian is assumed to be taken care of by veronica (possible comeback? Wouldn't fit working for barty's company unless he was let go after the lacey incident)

Monty was a one time thing and from out of town (lacks motive)

Lorenzo is sort of a mystery right now (seems timid, lacks in the size department so maybe would be fine not participating? Maybe a reason for revenge from being turned down in the club by lacey?)

Issiac has gone soft now, is friends with the MC. Doesn't need the money. Still obsessed with lacey sort of, but is working threw that

Barty seems like an underling, but maybe has a much bigger role? (Needs money for sick wife)

The COO at the MC's company? (Likely doesn't need the money. Seems like just there to represent a boss for the MC's promotion and nothing more)

Bradley doesn't have any motive right now that is known. Nice guy. Friends with the MC

Stephen with a "PH" is an unknown and has only been mentioned in conversation (currently lacks motive)

Any other male in the story i am missing?

 

[Maviarab]

She's a new intern in Accounting, Anna's department

No she isn't, she is in the document pool.

I myself have been pondering over who FV could be. I assume it is a guy since will refrences it in the erica conversation, but what male in the story would have the motive.

FV stares his motive is to get rich by starting the special K website, but never refrences wanting to have sex with any of the girls himself in any of his conversations with Will to my knowledge.

Evan is assumed to still be in jail after he was arrested (unless someone bailed him out)

Jared is assumed to be defeated and a cuck to bella now (unless he is still hell bent on revenge, he may need the money now, has cuck fetish so would enjoy watching instead of participating?)

Damian is assumed to be taken care of by veronica (possible comeback? Wouldn't fit working for barty's company unless he was let go after the lacey incident)

Monty was a one time thing and from out of town (lacks motive)

Lorenzo is sort of a mystery right now (seems timid, lacks in the size department so maybe would be fine not participating? Maybe a reason for revenge from being turned down in the club by lacey?)

Issiac has gone soft now, is friends with the MC. Doesn't need the money. Still obsessed with lacey sort of, but is working threw that

Barty seems like an underling, but maybe has a much bigger role? (Needs money for sick wife)

The COO at the MC's company? (Likely doesn't need the money. Seems like just there to represent a boss for the MC's promotion and nothing more)

Bradley doesn't have any motive right now that is known. Nice guy. Friends with the MC

Stephen with a "PH" is an unknown and has only been mentioned in conversation (currently lacks motive)

Any other male in the story i am missing?

Pretty much all correct, so a bit of a mystery really. Touching upon FV (Dick Dastardly) not seeming to be interested in the girls directly is an interesting one. I also think the same/got the same thought. Doesn;t appear to have much knowledge of the girls themselves though, does not seem to know who Veronica is, doesn't really know all their dynamic, just knows 'of' the core three and the sucubuss' 'past history'....

Also seems more to be designed to hurt the MC, be voindictive towards the mc...more than the girls. LIke, they are just a bonus for the plan, but the actual plan is directly against the MC himself.

And to add to the mystery, the Monster seems to be aware of all of this. How are they getting so much information? Other guys...struggling to think of any who wopuld be so upset with the MC himself to go to all this elborate (and what will ultimately be pointless) trouble....

 

[Dragonlight]

(convo with Familiar Voice)
WR "(mumbling) How will I even know what this dude looks like?"
WR "(mumbling) If he doesn't show up in like two minutes..."

That`s before they met. Maybe they used text before ?

WR "Hey man, there's no reason for all the name calling."

Could be used towards women.

(convo with Erica)
WI "Working with a guy to help start a new business."

That`s the one yes.

I agree not much wiggle room, but I want to believe

 

[anongamer1983]

No she isn't, she is in the document pool.

I could be wrong, but couldn't the accounting department have their own document pool?

 

[Dragonlight]

I myself have been pondering over who FV could be. I assume it is a guy since will refrences it in the erica conversation, but what male in the story would have the motive.

FV stares his motive is to get rich by starting the special K website, but never refrences wanting to have sex with any of the girls himself in any of his conversations with Will to my knowledge.

Evan is assumed to still be in jail after he was arrested (unless someone bailed him out)

Jared is assumed to be defeated and a cuck to bella now (unless he is still hell bent on revenge, he may need the money now, has cuck fetish so would enjoy watching instead of participating?)

Damian is assumed to be taken care of by veronica (possible comeback? Wouldn't fit working for barty's company unless he was let go after the lacey incident)

Monty was a one time thing and from out of town (lacks motive)

Lorenzo is sort of a mystery right now (seems timid, lacks in the size department so maybe would be fine not participating? Maybe a reason for revenge from being turned down in the club by lacey?)

Issiac has gone soft now, is friends with the MC. Doesn't need the money. Still obsessed with lacey sort of, but is working threw that

Barty seems like an underling, but maybe has a much bigger role? (Needs money for sick wife)

The COO at the MC's company? (Likely doesn't need the money. Seems like just there to represent a boss for the MC's promotion and nothing more)

Bradley doesn't have any motive right now that is known. Nice guy. Friends with the MC

Stephen with a "PH" is an unknown and has only been mentioned in conversation (currently lacks motive)

Any other male in the story i am missing?

Special K girls porn empire of whatever could be not a real motivation. Someone maybe using Will. And that is made up story to get him on board.