VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[duckydoodoo]

no one said the threesome requires lacey as being one of the 3.

also, pretty sure its time Mia got fucked, and with her issues, it would not go against existing story line for one of the other girls to be her moral support and physically there, as well as naked while MC has at it. with that 3rd person not taking part physically in sex acts.

there are multiple ways for a threesome to occur that falls in line with the story. and taking what we know of where people will be in the next update, it is not unreasonable to assume that if Lacey is there for the threesome in any manner, it will be in Vegas, with one of the other 3 women.

That doesnt mean MC wouldnt have a threesome without Lacey, since we know he has slept with 2 other people. but that would require Lacey giving him fresh wounds that would give him cause to succor the emotional pain through sex with someone not Lacey.

I just think Mia in Vegas is most likely, cause dev is pushing all the girls onto MC. based on peoples character though is a whole nother thing, if we are going based strictly on behavior patterns of everyone. the most likely threesome would be Lacey with 2 guys who are not MC, or MC and another guy. Cause she is a whore, who cant stop doing whore things, regardless of how much she claims to love MC.

 

[funnythings3785]

Okay, but we get the whole drama thing... can't we move on to something else?
There are so many plot holes to fill without necessarily resorting to NTR tropes, and besides, Act 2 shows us that Lacey wants to be a better person, so...

She says that, but she hasn't put actions to her mouth entirely yet (none of them have). Every time she has been tested, she fails (JD was a huge fail on her part and even in various smaller actions/behaviors, but there is a start) and so we will have to see an actual true test to see how she acts.

The threesome issue "may" be this chance, it may not, it may be a disaster for us hoping for certain outcomes. I would expect that real change, real resolution and accomplishment will likely come in the last two acts. There may be hints and such before, but I would expect we have some major issues to go through before we reach that stage.

I know some hate the "Train Wrecks", but I think they give more meaning to when there is actually a resolution eventually. It shows the severity of the problem and there is a MAJOR problem here to which I don't think a couple screwups are going to be enough. From my opinion, there has to be that "near death" experience or screwup so to speak (not saying literally) to cause a shift in pattern of thinking and I don't think anything so far has reached that level and I also think many of the characters have to be in that experience as well to wake up more than just one to it.

That is, even if the story heads that direction, we just don't know... it could go any which way and even in a way I would absolutely despise. For now, the direction is open, so we will see... after Act 3, I think we will have a better flow for what may be happening (unless the professor is doing a late stage turn around).

My only hope is the porn is just used as a tool and doesn't begin to drive the story. This is the biggest problem with a lot of NTR out there, it forgets its basic principal of story concept and just turns into slideshows for porn. I want the train wrecks, I want the MC to have to deal with some major dilemmas and the FC/and Co to have to face the totality of their behaviors and actions concerning the MC in this, but I don't want it to turn into some kink fest that would ruin the concept of the story.

Regardless, Act 3 will be a good gauge on where things are going and we should have a better understanding hopefully as to what we may see in later Acts. Or not...

 

[Pugthulhu]

no one said the threesome requires lacey as being one of the 3.

also, pretty sure its time Mia got fucked, and with her issues, it would not go against existing story line for one of the other girls to be her moral support and physically there, as well as naked while MC has at it. with that 3rd person not taking part physically in sex acts.

there are multiple ways for a threesome to occur that falls in line with the story. and taking what we know of where people will be in the next update, it is not unreasonable to assume that if Lacey is there for the threesome in any manner, it will be in Vegas, with one of the other 3 women.

That doesnt mean MC wouldnt have a threesome without Lacey, since we know he has slept with 2 other people. but that would require Lacey giving him fresh wounds that would give him cause to succor the emotional pain through sex with someone not Lacey.

I just think Mia in Vegas is most likely, cause dev is pushing all the girls onto MC. based on peoples character though is a whole nother thing, if we are going based strictly on behavior patterns of everyone. the most likely threesome would be Lacey with 2 guys who are not MC, or MC and another guy. Cause she is a whore, who cant stop doing whore things, regardless of how much she claims to love MC.

Based on the last update Lacey will be part of the threesome, but that doesn't mean she is an active participant.
I've said that I believe it will be an MMF threesome.
However I could see a situation where Lacey is encouraging the MC to have sex with Mia. I could see the MC not wanting to but Lacey pushing him into it. I could also see where this was what was discussed between Lacey and Mia after the Betrayal.
I could also see it backfiring on Lacey and her becoming Jealous afterwards.

 

[Sayora]

I know some hate the "Train Wrecks", but I think they give more meaning to when there is actually a resolution eventually. It shows the severity of the problem and there is a MAJOR problem here to which I don't think a couple screwups are going to be enough. From my opinion, there has to be that "near death" experience or screwup so to speak (not saying literally) to cause a shift in pattern of thinking and I don't think anything so far has reached that level and I also think many of the characters have to be in that experience as well to wake up more than just one to it.

Personally, I see only one, very, very small problem—MC tiny balls ! And then there's the complete lack of pride, which, coupled with his tiny balls, leads to a predictable outcome. If the next chapter doesn't show signs of them getting bigger, then it's a dead end. And until he learns to say "no" to that bitch, this story has no future.
When someone openly spit in your soul and then tells you, "Oh, sorry, I was just an accident, I'll improve," then nothing can fix that.
In principle, spineless creatures can live with this, but anyone familiar with the concept of pride and whose balls have grown even a little will not be able to come to terms with this, at least not in the long run.
Sorry to repeat myself, but this whole concept of forgiving and moving on completely doesn't fit into my life paradigm and, accordingly, the perspective with which I'm evaluating this VN.

 

[funnythings3785]

Personally, I see only one, very, very small problem—MC tiny balls ! And then there's the complete lack of pride, which, coupled with his tiny balls, leads to a predictable outcome. If the next chapter doesn't show signs of them getting bigger, then it's a dead end. And until he learns to say "no" to that bitch, this story has no future.
When someone openly spit in your soul and then tells you, "Oh, sorry, I was just an accident, I'll improve," then nothing can fix that.
In principle, spineless creatures can live with this, but anyone familiar with the concept of pride and whose balls have grown even a little will not be able to come to terms with this, at least not in the long run.
Sorry to repeat myself, but this whole concept of forgiving and moving on completely doesn't fit into my life paradigm and, accordingly, the perspective with which I'm evaluating this VN.

Absolutely! Which is why I was a bit concerned by the tone to which the professor talked about Act 3 being about the MCs "Healing". His healing needs to be an understanding of the situation, a realization that he needs to step up and take agency in the situation, to not be a pawn for the women's "Help" to make him "Heal".

If his "Healing" is merely "coming to terms, accepting the reality and being ok with it" while the women all act as they continue to do, Lacey never fully making actual steps to make amends and continuing to scheme resolutions of the "porn" nature, well... I have my doubts.

So yes, the MC needs to "get bigger balls" so to speak or at the least stop falling for the ridiculous plots that lead him to misery.

As I said, ACT 3 will tell us a lot about where things are heading.... It is essentially the 1/2 way point, but it could also be the pinnacle of the destruction phase so we may not see something substantial till Act 4 to fully realize where things will end in terms of character changes... so keep that in mind, though we do know by the professors comments that this is where the MC does a lot of healing, so my guess is that this act will set the stage to where he will progress to.

My hope is that the professor doesn't take lightly the fact that he isn't the one with the main problem here. Yes, he has issues, insecurities, etc... and yes... he needs to come to terms with accepting his wives past if he is to stay with her, but accepting the past doesn't mean approval or acceptance of that behavior (or anything remotely near it) as a course for the future.

So I am with you, I am kind of tense about this ending up in a backhanded cuck slap of acceptance where the women get a free pass and the man has to carry the burden for their shit behavior as if it were his fault for the issues which is all too common for modern writing.

 

[NewGuy2022]

This is all pure speculation based on the idea that someone wants to use lacey in porn.
I'll note that this is a character potentially unknown to the protagonists. Why would MC be interested in this? Or Mia, who has problems with men due to childhood trauma. Anna is generally only interested in the MC. I won't mention lacey, because for me, her story is already over; in the future, she's just a bad trigger for MC's actions.
It's a huge stretch to assume blackmail is possible, but filming porn carries a stigma no less than a prison sentence, and it's 99% certain that the protagonists would rather go to the police than agree to blackmail.

However, 1% remains if we assume the complete stupidity of the MC or an unexpectedly idiotic plot twist.

I'm inclined to think that if you bet upon the consistently poor judgement of the MC, you'll win more bets than you'll lose...

 

[Lady Lydia]

This is all pure speculation based on the idea that someone wants to use lacey in porn.
I'll note that this is a character potentially unknown to the protagonists. Why would MC be interested in this? Or Mia, who has problems with men due to childhood trauma. Anna is generally only interested in the MC. I won't mention lacey, because for me, her story is already over; in the future, she's just a bad trigger for MC's actions.
It's a huge stretch to assume blackmail is possible, but filming porn carries a stigma no less than a prison sentence, and it's 99% certain that the protagonists would rather go to the police than agree to blackmail.

However, 1% remains if we assume the complete stupidity of the MC or an unexpectedly idiotic plot twist.

Well for the MC, once he has been suitably corrupted, the reason he might support Lacey doing porn is because it would allow for Lacey to be slutty in a controlled environment, no bars or clubs, reduce the risks of her trying to find a random hook up for sex and causing problems, her partners would be professionals that would be able to keep sex and personal relationship separate so it would better, it would assure him there is a form of control over Lacey's actions so she can't do anything stupid.

As for Mia... wait did you miss what she did in College? People call her 'the Pimp' around here, why do you think that? No matter how supposedly traumatized she was with men, she had no issues effectively setting Lacey up for sex with men. As for Anna as I said she wouldn't be directly involved maybe more like an assistant to the MC after he get involved, so not doing actual porn herself.

As for the notion doing porn is equal in stigma to a prison sentence, wow, you have to come from somewhere pretty darn conservative, this is the 21st century, have you payed attention to the world around you? Their is what amount to softcore porn on Twitch and massive websites dedicated to porn, webcams left and right, and you think its still that problematic? Nah, sure its not glamorous a job, sure it won't give whoever act in it a great reputation, but it won't give them a bad reputation either.

As for blackmail, I didn't mention anything about that coming up due to blackmail, the scenario I was elaborating is basically Act 6, after they beat the bad guys they could get their hands on assets the bad guys possessed for xyz reasons and turn it into a porn studio on the Slut Path, or after all is said and done and discovering the bad guys wanted to turn Lacey into a porn actress she'll figure it might help making things 'better' and convince the group to actually do it themselves.

It depends... the fact that something happens doesn't mean it is what the MC wanted or even the result Lacey intended.

Lacey's intent is simply that she loves the MC, this however does not mean her actions will result in such that is good or healthy for the MC. Remember how she commented about how the JD backfired? How the cuck incident didn't go as she intended?

It is entirely possible that the MC gets pushed into yet another "experiment" where Lacey thinks she is "fixing" things when she is only making it worse, after all... that is typical Lacey and we have another "train wreck".

I think that falls well within the story, but what I think falls outside of it is "out of character" intent (porn empire, Lacey malicious intent, MC becoming accepting of all the behavior, etc...) which for the most part, barring inconsistencies have been pretty well established.

So while I predict more "train wrecks" and seriously stupid choices by everyone involved, I don't think (and hope) we don't see major character changes unless it is individual character growth (realization, personal growth, taking responsibility, etc...).

In the end though, who knows... everything could go upside down, but I don't think the current story supports some of the drastic predictions, those will have to have a bit more "foreshadowing" to gain any real traction.

Again I wouldn't say Lacey wanting to do porn would be out of character, it might be out of character on the Non-Slut Paths for the MC to accept, but on the Slut Path? Where Lacey has corrupted the MC into accepting her getting involved with other men? I really don't see what is so unbelievable in that. She already convinced the MC to let her cuck him, she convinced him again to let her be intimate with another man, she convinced him that her having sex with others 'don't matter', and you keep thinking she could convince him into her doing porn?

As for Lacey being malicious, I never said that, what I said is she is a slut, and she is trying to corrupt the MC into becoming sexually open and flexible, its not malicious, she doesn't want to harm him, she just want to put him in a position where he'll accept her being promiscuous and having sex with others, not out of desire to hurt him, but basically selfishness, something she has shown repeatedly to be full to the brim with. She likely truly believe that it would be to both their benefits to reach that point as it would allow her to have the sex life she want, while it would liberate the MC from his jealousy, and anxiety at the idea he could lose her.

Okay, but we get the whole drama thing... can't we move on to something else?
There are so many plot holes to fill without necessarily resorting to NTR tropes, and besides, Act 2 shows us that Lacey wants to be a better person, so...

Lacey might want to be a better person, but what does that even mean? Stop being such a narcissist, sure, maybe let go of her selfishness, sure, but it doesn't mean she wants to change her sexual proclivity, also again what we have seen up to now isn't her trying to change so much as her trying to change the MC, if you were to draw a line between the two and mark how come each have come to a middle ground, you'll notice the MC was forced to make massive headways while she hardly bulged, she said she wants to be better, but again hasn't acted on herself to change it, rather it seem she has pulled the MC to close the distance, that could be qualified as making things better, since it will help the two getting more attuned, but its done largely on the back of the MC.

 

[Zobra]

I mean seriously, I don't think there is anything that has been given to us in the game that gives any hint that the MC, Lacey, or any of the MC's group wants to have a porn empire. Outside of Veronica having an exhibitionist side I don't think anyone else has even hinted at this.

i mean ... sorry but reading this theory makes me laugh (if that happens then this Path ending will be laughable) , some just desperate to make all the characters Prostitutes , or cuck the MC which clearly Dev seems to dislike (not judging but it makes zero sense , and some of those Optional choices has nothing to do with mc personality , i mean later on in the story if someone called him "cuck" he get furious or may kill that person with no inner thoughts like "i'm so angry but this turns me on"

anyway , i just finished Act2 , a hell of a grind but damn ... the emotions were all over the place ... every time i try to hate a character i end up loving them even more ... i even liked Issac a little wtf ?

2 things annoyed me : 1st Renpy ? why ? my hands got tired , i wish it was an HTML so we can use Text 2 Speech extension

These Tags Will Not Be used:
Loli, Harem

all girls looks loli anyway , but no Harem ? the 2nd thing that annoyed me , not into this term much but it really fit this game even temporary..

Will there be an NTS route in the game?

did you played the game ? anyway , the short answer is YES, the longer answer You force Lacey FMC to do it , she doesn't like it , and get disgusted by it even in foreplay , but she loves her man to the point she will do anything for him (i'm an nts perv but i couldn't do it , i'll be a heatless jackass ) , but there is a possible cuckquean play in Act3
the ntr is also either from her fuck-up past or using drugs (duhh) , there is also an ntr scene at home but it wasn't FMC , just deepfake , so no worries , just enjoy the DP scene with 2 ugly human-horse

 

[SayoraSaint]

As for the notion doing porn is equal in stigma to a prison sentence, wow, you have to come from somewhere pretty darn conservative, this is the 21st century, have you payed attention to the world around you? Their is what amount to softcore porn on Twitch and massive websites dedicated to porn, webcams left and right, and you think its still that problematic? Nah, sure its not glamorous a job, sure it won't give whoever act in it a great reputation, but it won't give them a bad reputation either.

As has been mentioned here many times, the entire story, the MC's character, his desires suggest that the only thing he wants is a normal family and the love of one woman.
To assume that he would willingly participate in such nonsense is absurd.
You might as well assume he's planning a gender reassignment or becoming a diver, after all, it's been mentioned somewhere that it's good to see things from different perspectives. After all, this isn't a Louis Carroll fairy tale, but a pornographic story. jk
Now, regarding porn and the stigma, even putting aside the ethical aspect. No self-respecting company (I'm not talking about the entertainment industry) would hire a porn actress. And if she's already working, they'll get rid of her so as not to disgrace the company. I won't even mention potential children. How will you explain to your child your photos and videos of yourself with a black dick in your mouth and a pussy full of cum?

 

[Lady Lydia]

As has been mentioned here many times, the entire story, the MC's character, his desires suggest that the only thing he wants is a normal family and the love of one woman.
To assume that he would willingly participate in such nonsense is absurd.
You might as well assume he's planning a gender reassignment or becoming a diver, after all, it's been mentioned somewhere that it's good to see things from different perspectives. After all, this isn't a Louis Carroll fairy tale, but a pornographic story. jk
Now, regarding porn and the stigma, even putting aside the ethical aspect. No self-respecting company (I'm not talking about the entertainment industry) would hire a porn actress. And if she's already working, they'll get rid of her so as not to disgrace the company. I won't even mention potential children. How will you explain to your child your photos and videos of yourself with a black dick in your mouth and a pussy full of cum?

What part of 'the MC is getting corrupted by Lacey and this is the outcome at Act 6 on the Slut Path' do you not get? Yes right now he wouldn't be up for it, but the MC has already shown that he'll bend for Lacey and accept more and more things, and his attitude has already changed from the start to now, give it 3 more Acts and his attitude will change every Act in the direction of him getting more open and flexible with sexuality, and on the Slut Path I expect he'd be willing to go for it by the end with Lacey keeping her corruption of him ongoing thru the entire game.

Next, ethical aspect of porn? Their is no ethical issues with porn, again this is the 21st century, the adult entertainment industry has exploded in the last couple decades, sure porn movies aren't as commonly made, but porn videos by the boat load keep being made, now you have tons of people doing softcore porn streams, their are tons of amateurs doing porn nowadays, their is likely a few % of the population that participated in porn nowadays, and you don't hear about a constant stream of people having issues over it. Their are plenty of people that did porn that found work later, and seriously the notion this is the worst thing that a company can be faced with? Rather than employees that have abused their positions to forced people into having sex with them? As for the last point, I caught my parents having sex, why the Hell would it be any worst for them to have done porn? Again its all sanctimonious conservative crap, prudes demonizing sex out of some religious delusions.

 

[SayoraSaint]

What part of 'the MC is getting corrupted by Lacey and this is the outcome at Act 6 on the Slut Path' do you not get? Yes right now he wouldn't be up for it, but the MC has already shown that he'll bend for Lacey and accept more and more things, and his attitude has already changed from the start to now, give it 3 more Acts and his attitude will change every Act in the direction of him getting more open and flexible with sexuality, and on the Slut Path I expect he'd be willing to go for it by the end with Lacey keeping her corruption of him ongoing thru the entire game.

Next, ethical aspect of porn? Their is no ethical issues with porn, again this is the 21st century, the adult entertainment industry has exploded in the last couple decades, sure porn movies aren't as commonly made, but porn videos by the boat load keep being made, now you have tons of people doing softcore porn streams, their are tons of amateurs doing porn nowadays, their is likely a few % of the population that participated in porn nowadays, and you don't hear about a constant stream of people having issues over it. Their are plenty of people that did porn that found work later, and seriously the notion this is the worst thing that a company can be faced with? Rather than employees that have abused their positions to forced people into having sex with them? As for the last point, I caught my parents having sex, why the Hell would it be any worst for them to have done porn? Again its all sanctimonious conservative crap, prudes demonizing sex out of some religious delusions.

You're really going for it.
Discussing Act 6 when we can't even imagine what's coming in Act 3.

Basically, I understand that running a porn empire is your peculiar kink. I'm not judging; we all have different skeletons in our closets. But I highly doubt we'll see that kind of content in this VN.
As for participating in porn, I see it's a sore point for you, so let's stop this pointless discussion.

 

[Lady Lydia]

You're really going for it.
Discussing Act 6 when we can't even imagine what's coming in Act 3.

Basically, I understand that running a porn empire is your peculiar kink. I'm not judging; we all have different skeletons in our closets. But I highly doubt we'll see that kind of content in this VN.
As for filming porn, I see it's a sore point for you, so let's stop this pointless discussion.

Huh... I don't have a kink for running a porn empire, its non-sense to say that, its merely an outcome I predict to happen on the Slut Path of this story, it would be a shock for you to learn but I hate NTR and I am not into sharing, I okay with swinging however. I don't predict every singular porn games will end with some sort of porn business in them, Hell I am not a fan of that outcome either because I wouldn't be a fan of letting my girlfriend have sex with some guys even if it was as a job. The difference between you and me is I take the information available and I deduct an outcome based on said information, while you'd rather just assume it will end the way you want it to end.

Also we can imagine what is coming in Act 3, first its supposed to be 'healing' for the MC, they are going to Vegas, and a threesome is stated as being involved, it might just be a threesome between the MC, Lacey & Mia, but considering Lacey's typical planning, I fully assume somehow its going to involve if at least in addition a MMF threesome, with the MC, Lacey & some random guy she'll have chosen. Frankly from what we have seen from this story 'healing' for the MC mean him becoming more aligned with Lacey's mindset, so maybe Act 3 will be when he'll start to overcome his jealousy, which has been Lacey's goal from Act 1, which mean she'll do more with other guys.

 

[Zobra]

I take the information available and I deduct an outcome based on said information

This line is true and i hate it , i my self did stuck in middle of some games coz i didn't like it Direction , or didn't understand it yet ? (either moved too fast or made no sense to me).

I fully assume somehow its going to involve if at least in addition a MMF threesome

also true ,There was an Option early in the game for this path MMF/MFF (tho i checked the ntr/ntrs choices and all of them says "no effect on game" from the Dev notes unless i missed one).
p.s: Slut/bimbo path Unrelated to ntr/ntrs events (Author said that) , means she become mc's slut/bimbo NOT with/for someone else , it important to (we) focus on those notes.

From what i learn , Lacey hates to be shared (even in foreplay + you lose love points & gain nothing) , she only did it coz MC forced her to do it (other than that one time when she made a mistake with Damien) , she will do anything for him (it was Optional anyway , has nothing to do with storyline , just to spice things up for the horny ntr crowd) , but she surely wants to be a cuckquean and share her husband tho only with those she trust , and he is afraid to do it coz he think she will use that to fuck other men or losing her (he doesn't even like the term of "Open Relationship").
The "healing" i believe is that all he want is to forget the past & stop hunting him , and make peace with it (first step with isaac , not friends yet , but more close to each other).

all that said , i just can't see the outcome of a Porn Empire UNLESS those two who planning to whore out his girls BECOME THE WHORES instead lol , that will be hilarious (some silly hints that makes me believe that : (Evan=Jail , Jared=cuck , Isaac=bi , did you guys see the karma pattern ?)

 

[Sayora]

Omg guys not this again . Just chill a bit let see what 3 act bring

(other than that one time when she made a mistake with Damien)

This isn't a mistake, but a carefully planned, fully conscious act committed in a "sane" mind. It's possible (according to the author) that he didn't realize the consequences, which I seriously doubt, as the character isn't a child and is certainly familiar with concepts such as family, trust, etc., which he violated in the most barbaric way—in other words, by showing his 'beloved' husband his place.

 

[Zobra]

This isn't a mistake

sorry but what are you talking about ? MC wasn't okay at all with the plan , sure both agreed to it but she had to drink LOT and use K drug before that scene , she was just trying to prove a point which backfired her plan later on (ofc she did crossed the line) , they all believed at the end of the stream that she was doing it for herself to humiliate MC except Christine who noticed something off & explained ...

and what do you mean by "showing his place" ? why many trying so hard to cuck him or make him a pimp ? am i playing a different game ? i'm confuse here lol

 

[funnythings3785]

sorry but what are you talking about ? MC wasn't okay at all with the plan , sure both agreed to it but she had to drink LOT and use K drug before that scene , she was just trying to prove a point which backfired her plan later on (ofc she did crossed the line) , they all believed at the end of the stream that she was doing it for herself to humiliate MC except Christine who noticed something off & explained ...

and what do you mean by "showing his place" ? why many trying so hard to cuck him or make him a pimp ? am i playing a different game ? i'm confuse here lol

That incident is one where there are certainly some questions and it has been argued over. I don't think the theory that she had malicious intent (ie was doing it to convert the MC into a willing cuck) is well founded, but there are questions certainly which bring into question her full motives in the incident (as well as the JD).

The problem with some of the theories is they are taking loosely supported situations and dialogue in the story and then building on them in a direction that I think is taking a lot of liberty in the conclusion.

There may be some truth from both sides as to why Lacey did it, but I think it is a rather large leap to assume this is some ulterior motive to turn the MC into her personal cuck or pimp. I think that would be taking far too much NTR storylines outside of this story and those assumptions tend to conflict with the original statement the professor has made on NTR as it concerns this story.

I honestly don't see the MC being turned into a traditional MC common in all the other NTR stories, it doesn't make sense in terms of the authors intent, nor through various dialogue and story directions currently.

 

[Sayora]

am i playing a different game ? i'm confuse here lol

it looks like that

and what do you mean by "showing his place" ? why many trying so hard to cuck him or make him a pimp ?

No one here wants to turn the MC into a cuck or a wimp - lacey has already done everything for us.
and what you took for mutual consent is pure manipulation.

(ofc she did crossed the line)

She didn't cross the line - she destroyed trust, which is key in a relationship. This can't be fixed, and most importantly, it can't be cured; time will only make things worse.

 

[Zobra]

She didn't cross the line - she destroyed trust, which is key in a relationship

this line for a normal couples , not 2 fucked up brain damaged couples , she believed she was doing the right thing , and he was a fool to support that plan , 2 idiots trying to do the right thing by making it worse , this doesn't mean they will end up at the end of the story with an orgy like the college days , the whole point is to fix that not to open a damn porn empire like some predicted.

I honestly don't see the MC being turned into a traditional MC common in all the other NTR stories, it doesn't make sense in terms of the authors intent, nor through various dialogue and story directions currently.

i agree , it doesn't.
tho i do believe in her motives (good intentions), same with mia who was jealous and just wanted a piece of him , but also making a backup/skip plan for him (Kelly) , coz Lacey was going way too far mentally and too selfish.

One of the problems i find in this game is those Optional choices that Contradict MC personality/behavior later on (for example the bar thing i was going to go call it off but Author insist it will benefit the story , i did , which it made me even more confuse than before).

 

[funnythings3785]

this line for a normal couples , not 2 fucked up brain damaged couples , she believed she was doing the right thing , and he was a fool to support that plan , 2 idiots trying to do the right thing by making it worse , this doesn't mean they will end up at the end of the story with an orgy like the college days , the whole point is to fix that not to open a damn porn empire like some predicted.


i agree , it doesn't.
tho i do believe in her motives (good intentions), same with mia who was jealous and just wanted a piece of him , but also making a backup/skip plan for him (Kelly) , coz Lacey was going way too far mentally and too selfish.

One of the problems i find in this game is those Optional choices that Contradict MC personality/behavior later on (for example the bar thing i was going to go call it off but Author insist it will benefit the story , i did , which it made me even more confuse than before).

Maybe I misunderstand the options, but I always saw those options less as directing the story paths as much as it setting a mood to the story telling. Over all, the characters don't change much, you simply get more information about their backgrounds, state of mind, etc... I never saw them as literal story directions.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Maybe I misunderstand the options, but I always saw those options less as directing the story paths as much as it setting a mood to the story telling. Over all, the characters don't change much, you simply get more information about their backgrounds, state of mind, etc... I never saw them as literal story directions.

Agreed. Personally I don't see the player choices as mattering significantly with respect to the trajectory of the story; I get the feeling that the centerline is the centerline and that's where the story will go. The player just gets to color outside the lines a little bit along the way with some minor sidesteps...