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FlinPaltwell

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Hey Flin, Congrats on your new release, and happy that you solved the issue with Itch.io. Just started to play a new game again and haven't seen the updates yet, but I'm looking forward to it. I wanted to ask about do you plan to release on Steam? Also, did you already have anything in mind for the future project with a little tease(of course, I'm not asking teaser renders, just story, characters, body types, genres, etc.).
Oh yeah, I suppose I never mentioned here that they re-listed my game on Itch, but they did (they re-listed all of the adult games that were free, so that's why mine got back up).

I've heard that Steam is very strict when it comes to adult games in academic settings. Adult games set in high school are not allowed even if everyone is 18+, and in fact even games set in college can have a hard time getting approved (a little insane to me, but they like to play it very cautious).
I know with my game it's like, the high school setting is such a secondary afterthought that you never even see a school, classroom, schooldesk, nothing, but nonetheless, I think it'd be a lot of trouble for something that I don't even charge money for, haha. I'm not really looking to monetize LLRR beyond the Patreon page.

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As for your final question, I've been working on two massive posts I'm eventually gonna put up that explain in great detail what kind of content my future games are likely to have and how that content compares to LLRR.

One of the posts is titled "What will change and what won't change," while the other is "Story ideas."
I don't want to share these posts until the game is done (or nearly done), but there's a lot I can still say:

Story: I have so many fuckin' ideas, dude. The post I'm working on currently describes 9 different story ideas in detail, and they vary wildly. Some of them are modern, mundane settings like LLRR, while others involve superheroes, D&D fantasy, zombie apocalypse, even vikings (rather, a strapping young viking in a modern setting).
The important thing to me is that they all involve hesitant, lustful cheating like in LLRR, and that cheating always involves the MC. That means the stories are basically all netori, though I could plausibly imagine enjoying a story where you're cheating on your girlfriend with someone who's single.
Ideas are easy, and overrated. Execution is everything. I believe even the most boring premise can have some of the hottest cheating sex scenes, and on the flip side, even the most crazy of these premises can execute a grounded and emotional narrative that helps to deliver the same thing. I believe the vast majority of people who have liked my execution of LLRR would enjoy whatever I make next.

Characters: Similar to LLRR, the characters are by-and-large always going to be decent, monogamously loyal human beings who don't want to cheat and are relatively happy and good-natured when the story begins. This includes the protagonist.
I have one exception in my head that I'm playing with.
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Body type: LLRR basically has two body types - "Girlfriend with slender frame" and "the same thing but with massive boobs," lol. That typical hyper-voluptuous stylized supermodel anime body is always going to be a constant. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, she'll have a much more modest/sane chest size :ROFLMAO: If there are 10 heroines in the story, they'll all have that voluptuous body type, idgaf. Though I am willing to try to pull off the "short stack" body type a little better, I feel as though I failed getting that fully across with Kelly.
As for the male MC (because it matters dammit), I just like the "slender but athletic swimmer's body" kind of build for him. I wouldn't mind improving the sense of muscle definition a bit compared to how Flin's body was, but overall a similar build.

Genre: I'd just go with "softcore hesitant cheating romance." That softcore tone that permeates LLRR is something that'll still be there, even if I add nipples lol. And if I add genitalia (massive, MASSIVE "if") then it'll still be hidden a lot of the time, or potentially white-glow censored (not mosaic censored). Also, if you think I'm ever getting tired of missionary or face-to-face sex, think other thoughts.

I do have one story in mind that I think is more likely than the rest as my next project: you, your best friend, and your best friend's hot girlfriend are starting college, and best friend is going to another state. You and his girlfriend are going to a different state together, so neither of you will know anyone other than each other. Naturally, you should be friends and spend time together, right?
The game's just about growing closer to her.

Obviously a big shift from LLRR because of the focus on only one heroine, but I'd really like my next project to be a much shorter and simpler one while I try out new workflows and ideas. It'd be so wonderful to focus on one character.
I know some people here enjoyed the presence of a girlfriend to cheat on; I'd have to think about it, for this one. The dynamic's a little different. You could plausibly get a girlfriend at the college and this makes your best friend's girlfriend irrationally jealous.
Not sure.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but this is a tiny fraction of the total content in the two posts I'll eventually share.
 

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wow its been a year and the game is now 200 MB bigger, not bad lol. I forgot about the game tbh, I'm just glad that it's not abandoned
 
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Oh yeah, I suppose I never mentioned here that they re-listed my game on Itch, but they did (they re-listed all of the adult games that were free, so that's why mine got back up).

I've heard that Steam is very strict when it comes to adult games in academic settings. Adult games set in high school are not allowed even if everyone is 18+, and in fact even games set in college can have a hard time getting approved (a little insane to me, but they like to play it very cautious).
I know with my game it's like, the high school setting is such a secondary afterthought that you never even see a school, classroom, schooldesk, nothing, but nonetheless, I think it'd be a lot of trouble for something that I don't even charge money for, haha. I'm not really looking to monetize LLRR beyond the Patreon page.

---

As for your final question, I've been working on two massive posts I'm eventually gonna put up that explain in great detail what kind of content my future games are likely to have and how that content compares to LLRR.

One of the posts is titled "What will change and what won't change," while the other is "Story ideas."
I don't want to share these posts until the game is done (or nearly done), but there's a lot I can still say:

Story: I have so many fuckin' ideas, dude. The post I'm working on currently describes 9 different story ideas in detail, and they vary wildly. Some of them are modern, mundane settings like LLRR, while others involve superheroes, D&D fantasy, zombie apocalypse, even vikings (rather, a strapping young viking in a modern setting).
The important thing to me is that they all involve hesitant, lustful cheating like in LLRR, and that cheating always involves the MC. That means the stories are basically all netori, though I could plausibly imagine enjoying a story where you're cheating on your girlfriend with someone who's single.
Ideas are easy, and overrated. Execution is everything. I believe even the most boring premise can have some of the hottest cheating sex scenes, and on the flip side, even the most crazy of these premises can execute a grounded and emotional narrative that helps to deliver the same thing. I believe the vast majority of people who have liked my execution of LLRR would enjoy whatever I make next.

Characters: Similar to LLRR, the characters are by-and-large always going to be decent, monogamously loyal human beings who don't want to cheat and are relatively happy and good-natured when the story begins. This includes the protagonist.
I have one exception in my head that I'm playing with.
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Body type: LLRR basically has two body types - "Girlfriend with slender frame" and "the same thing but with massive boobs," lol. That typical hyper-voluptuous stylized supermodel anime body is always going to be a constant. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, she'll have a much more modest/sane chest size :ROFLMAO: If there are 10 heroines in the story, they'll all have that voluptuous body type, idgaf. Though I am willing to try to pull off the "short stack" body type a little better, I feel as though I failed getting that fully across with Kelly.
As for the male MC (because it matters dammit), I just like the "slender but athletic swimmer's body" kind of build for him. I wouldn't mind improving the sense of muscle definition a bit compared to how Flin's body was, but overall a similar build.

Genre: I'd just go with "softcore hesitant cheating romance." That softcore tone that permeates LLRR is something that'll still be there, even if I add nipples lol. And if I add genitalia (massive, MASSIVE "if") then it'll still be hidden a lot of the time, or potentially white-glow censored (not mosaic censored). Also, if you think I'm ever getting tired of missionary or face-to-face sex, think other thoughts.

I do have one story in mind that I think is more likely than the rest as my next project: you, your best friend, and your best friend's hot girlfriend are starting college, and best friend is going to another state. You and his girlfriend are going to a different state together, so neither of you will know anyone other than each other. Naturally, you should be friends and spend time together, right?
The game's just about growing closer to her.

Obviously a big shift from LLRR because of the focus on only one heroine, but I'd really like my next project to be a much shorter and simpler one while I try out new workflows and ideas. It'd be so wonderful to focus on one character.
I know some people here enjoyed the presence of a girlfriend to cheat on; I'd have to think about it, for this one. The dynamic's a little different. You could plausibly get a girlfriend at the college and this makes your best friend's girlfriend irrationally jealous.
Not sure.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but this is a tiny fraction of the total content in the two posts I'll eventually share.
Just to add to the point about the cheating aspect and the relationships involved. I am, to this day, a fan of how a certain dev of a certain game designed the MC's gf's sister to be a sexually forward slut that isn't exactly pursuing the MC, but instead be easily accessible and available despite the taboo. The execution of meeting > giving option to give her number/leaving the door open to communicating, an unspoken agreement between the MC and his seductress. Basically a character that is a flashing light for MC, who is aware of this fact, yet depending on the player's choice may ride the downward spiral into an affair.
 
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Oh yeah, I suppose I never mentioned here that they re-listed my game on Itch, but they did (they re-listed all of the adult games that were free, so that's why mine got back up).

I've heard that Steam is very strict when it comes to adult games in academic settings. Adult games set in high school are not allowed even if everyone is 18+, and in fact even games set in college can have a hard time getting approved (a little insane to me, but they like to play it very cautious).
I know with my game it's like, the high school setting is such a secondary afterthought that you never even see a school, classroom, schooldesk, nothing, but nonetheless, I think it'd be a lot of trouble for something that I don't even charge money for, haha. I'm not really looking to monetize LLRR beyond the Patreon page.

---

As for your final question, I've been working on two massive posts I'm eventually gonna put up that explain in great detail what kind of content my future games are likely to have and how that content compares to LLRR.

One of the posts is titled "What will change and what won't change," while the other is "Story ideas."
I don't want to share these posts until the game is done (or nearly done), but there's a lot I can still say:

Story: I have so many fuckin' ideas, dude. The post I'm working on currently describes 9 different story ideas in detail, and they vary wildly. Some of them are modern, mundane settings like LLRR, while others involve superheroes, D&D fantasy, zombie apocalypse, even vikings (rather, a strapping young viking in a modern setting).
The important thing to me is that they all involve hesitant, lustful cheating like in LLRR, and that cheating always involves the MC. That means the stories are basically all netori, though I could plausibly imagine enjoying a story where you're cheating on your girlfriend with someone who's single.
Ideas are easy, and overrated. Execution is everything. I believe even the most boring premise can have some of the hottest cheating sex scenes, and on the flip side, even the most crazy of these premises can execute a grounded and emotional narrative that helps to deliver the same thing. I believe the vast majority of people who have liked my execution of LLRR would enjoy whatever I make next.

Characters: Similar to LLRR, the characters are by-and-large always going to be decent, monogamously loyal human beings who don't want to cheat and are relatively happy and good-natured when the story begins. This includes the protagonist.
I have one exception in my head that I'm playing with.
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Body type: LLRR basically has two body types - "Girlfriend with slender frame" and "the same thing but with massive boobs," lol. That typical hyper-voluptuous stylized supermodel anime body is always going to be a constant. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, she'll have a much more modest/sane chest size :ROFLMAO: If there are 10 heroines in the story, they'll all have that voluptuous body type, idgaf. Though I am willing to try to pull off the "short stack" body type a little better, I feel as though I failed getting that fully across with Kelly.
As for the male MC (because it matters dammit), I just like the "slender but athletic swimmer's body" kind of build for him. I wouldn't mind improving the sense of muscle definition a bit compared to how Flin's body was, but overall a similar build.

Genre: I'd just go with "softcore hesitant cheating romance." That softcore tone that permeates LLRR is something that'll still be there, even if I add nipples lol. And if I add genitalia (massive, MASSIVE "if") then it'll still be hidden a lot of the time, or potentially white-glow censored (not mosaic censored). Also, if you think I'm ever getting tired of missionary or face-to-face sex, think other thoughts.

I do have one story in mind that I think is more likely than the rest as my next project: you, your best friend, and your best friend's hot girlfriend are starting college, and best friend is going to another state. You and his girlfriend are going to a different state together, so neither of you will know anyone other than each other. Naturally, you should be friends and spend time together, right?
The game's just about growing closer to her.

Obviously a big shift from LLRR because of the focus on only one heroine, but I'd really like my next project to be a much shorter and simpler one while I try out new workflows and ideas. It'd be so wonderful to focus on one character.
I know some people here enjoyed the presence of a girlfriend to cheat on; I'd have to think about it, for this one. The dynamic's a little different. You could plausibly get a girlfriend at the college and this makes your best friend's girlfriend irrationally jealous.
Not sure.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but this is a tiny fraction of the total content in the two posts I'll eventually share.
Ok. Just finished almost all the new content. The wait was more than worth it from what I have seen. I LOVED THAT WEDDING. I am probably going to be playing it again many more times, but more slowly than today.

Also, for you next game, I completely trust your capabilities. You have not dissapointed me yet! I personally really enjoy when the main character is cheating on his girlfriend (like in this game), but even if that isn't the case in your next game I still think it will become one of my favorites (just like this game). Have I mentioned I love this game?

Well, in any case, very much looking forward to the endings. Especially the staying with Stella while cheating on her with everyone ending, hehehe.
 
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Oh yeah, I suppose I never mentioned here that they re-listed my game on Itch, but they did (they re-listed all of the adult games that were free, so that's why mine got back up).

I've heard that Steam is very strict when it comes to adult games in academic settings. Adult games set in high school are not allowed even if everyone is 18+, and in fact even games set in college can have a hard time getting approved (a little insane to me, but they like to play it very cautious).
I know with my game it's like, the high school setting is such a secondary afterthought that you never even see a school, classroom, schooldesk, nothing, but nonetheless, I think it'd be a lot of trouble for something that I don't even charge money for, haha. I'm not really looking to monetize LLRR beyond the Patreon page.

---

As for your final question, I've been working on two massive posts I'm eventually gonna put up that explain in great detail what kind of content my future games are likely to have and how that content compares to LLRR.

One of the posts is titled "What will change and what won't change," while the other is "Story ideas."
I don't want to share these posts until the game is done (or nearly done), but there's a lot I can still say:

Story: I have so many fuckin' ideas, dude. The post I'm working on currently describes 9 different story ideas in detail, and they vary wildly. Some of them are modern, mundane settings like LLRR, while others involve superheroes, D&D fantasy, zombie apocalypse, even vikings (rather, a strapping young viking in a modern setting).
The important thing to me is that they all involve hesitant, lustful cheating like in LLRR, and that cheating always involves the MC. That means the stories are basically all netori, though I could plausibly imagine enjoying a story where you're cheating on your girlfriend with someone who's single.
Ideas are easy, and overrated. Execution is everything. I believe even the most boring premise can have some of the hottest cheating sex scenes, and on the flip side, even the most crazy of these premises can execute a grounded and emotional narrative that helps to deliver the same thing. I believe the vast majority of people who have liked my execution of LLRR would enjoy whatever I make next.

Characters: Similar to LLRR, the characters are by-and-large always going to be decent, monogamously loyal human beings who don't want to cheat and are relatively happy and good-natured when the story begins. This includes the protagonist.
I have one exception in my head that I'm playing with.
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Body type: LLRR basically has two body types - "Girlfriend with slender frame" and "the same thing but with massive boobs," lol. That typical hyper-voluptuous stylized supermodel anime body is always going to be a constant. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, she'll have a much more modest/sane chest size :ROFLMAO: If there are 10 heroines in the story, they'll all have that voluptuous body type, idgaf. Though I am willing to try to pull off the "short stack" body type a little better, I feel as though I failed getting that fully across with Kelly.
As for the male MC (because it matters dammit), I just like the "slender but athletic swimmer's body" kind of build for him. I wouldn't mind improving the sense of muscle definition a bit compared to how Flin's body was, but overall a similar build.

Genre: I'd just go with "softcore hesitant cheating romance." That softcore tone that permeates LLRR is something that'll still be there, even if I add nipples lol. And if I add genitalia (massive, MASSIVE "if") then it'll still be hidden a lot of the time, or potentially white-glow censored (not mosaic censored). Also, if you think I'm ever getting tired of missionary or face-to-face sex, think other thoughts.

I do have one story in mind that I think is more likely than the rest as my next project: you, your best friend, and your best friend's hot girlfriend are starting college, and best friend is going to another state. You and his girlfriend are going to a different state together, so neither of you will know anyone other than each other. Naturally, you should be friends and spend time together, right?
The game's just about growing closer to her.

Obviously a big shift from LLRR because of the focus on only one heroine, but I'd really like my next project to be a much shorter and simpler one while I try out new workflows and ideas. It'd be so wonderful to focus on one character.
I know some people here enjoyed the presence of a girlfriend to cheat on; I'd have to think about it, for this one. The dynamic's a little different. You could plausibly get a girlfriend at the college and this makes your best friend's girlfriend irrationally jealous.
Not sure.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but this is a tiny fraction of the total content in the two posts I'll eventually share.
Crossing my fingers you next game Will be more milf centered. Is u do that,u will be the goat of netori milfs with away from home dev lol.
 

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Crossing my fingers you next game Will be more milf centered. Is u do that,u will be the goat of netori milfs with away from home dev lol.
Haha first of all, thanks for the review my dude, that was really kind! "I bet my dick on that" :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

I hate to let you down, but I gotta level with you: I'm a bit more of a "one milf per story" kinda guy, and even then, some of my story ideas don't have any (including the idea I'm currently considering for my next project).

I can tell you this much: MOST of my story ideas have at least 1 milf, and one of my story ideas would have like 3-5 milfs (you and your newlywed wife move into a new neighborhood where you fuck all the neighbors' housewives, most of whom would be milfs and one of whom you would turn into a milf (because she and her husband have been trying to have a baby for a year and you gotta step in and help out man c'mon)).

I do LOVE milfs and Julie has regularly been my favorite character to make content for, but Amy, Kelly, and Samantha have all been super fun too and I like having the range.

So I can't promise anything...but I can at least say that the longer I go without making milf content, the more hungry that part of me will likely become.
 

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Why they don‘t have nipples?
A fair question, and you can find a more in-depth answer if you dig through this thread a bit.

The short answer is simply that a poorly done depiction of a nipple bothers me a lot more than the absence of one, so I went with the easier option.

But this is easily far and away the most common complaint/question I've received on this project, so next game will probably show nipples - if I can get them looking good enough.

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That reminds me, I don't think the f95zone crowd ever saw my hilarious April Fool's joke:

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My patrons had a lot to say about that one :ROFLMAO:
they were good sports about it though
 

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Well, nice little story Flin, and I would love to see all these women that Flin got the chance to bang, all get knocked up, and in the final scenes they all have baby bellies and our hero is still banging them. Stella's mom manages to sleep with her husband so that he thinks her pregnancy is his. Her sister tells Stella that her baby is from her boyfriend (not Flin). The other girls find excuses too, but each one knows who the daddy of their baby really is. Eventually, Flin gets all the girls to accept the truth and they all live together, and sometimes Flin sends some of the girls out to do some "side work", except Stalla's mom. She's special.
 
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I have to say i really enjoyed the Samantha scene. It´s just great.

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On another note, i saw some typos, i am not that kinda guy that it bothers me, but i remember one thing. It´s "key card" not "card key" right? I could be wrong though, english is not my native language.

in the end all i can say is: continue what you are doing, if the girls have nipples or not, i don´t care
it´s such a unique experience to play your game, that i just enjoy it and for me the most important part is, that you enjoy what you are doing and it shows
 
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