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Ren'Py Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.9.1] [FlinPaltwell]

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After you complete the game once, it's a lot easier to get those early scenes in NG+ mode.
But if you want to pass it guaranteed, you'd need her like and lust to both be set to 100 and her guilt to 0.
Hey Flin. I just wanted to say this. I've started playing this game back when you were on Chapter 4 or 5 and I gotta tell you, at first I thought I was going to be turned off by the art style, gameplay and "Vanilla Sex" but I've been with you update after update. The writing is superb, the way your characters talk leading to and during sex, My God. You even switched things up with group camping trip and beach trip and the addition of Number 1 Fan, Sam. Hell, you even added in a few more different positions and the addition of animation makes this a complete package. I hope you continue making games after you finish this one.
 

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Hey Flin. I just wanted to say this. I've started playing this game back when you were on Chapter 4 or 5 and I gotta tell you, at first I thought I was going to be turned off by the art style, gameplay and "Vanilla Sex" but I've been with you update after update. The writing is superb, the way your characters talk leading to and during sex, My God. You even switched things up with group camping trip and beach trip and the addition of Number 1 Fan, Sam. Hell, you even added in a few more different positions and the addition of animation makes this a complete package. I hope you continue making games after you finish this one.
I believe Chapter 4 was my first public release, so sounds like you've been around since near the beginning!

There's been a lot of praise this past week for the sex dialogue in particular, and it's such a relief!

I spend a lot of time writing, playtesting, deciding if the text is bad or could be better, re-writing, wondering if I'm using too many italics and heart ❤ symbols, deciding I can't possibly ❤ use ❤ too ❤ many ❤ during a sex scene ❤, puzzling out how many ways I can spell "hahh" or "aahhh" or the more recent "AAHHNG~❤," wondering if the 36th time talking about Flin's dick being bigger or how fucked up the sex is is too many times (never is), etc.
I only move on once I honestly enjoy it...and then hope others enjoy it too.

Thanks for saying something! I fully intend to continue making games after this one! Too many fun ideas!
 

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Dev, can u make sex scene when they call their spouse?
I almost did with this update, having Julie talk to a drunk David on the phone while she's getting railed from behind, but it's one of those things that kinda bends the texture of the whole scene around it and needs additional effort to be done well.

I'm undecided. For these final ending sex scenes, I'm looking to avoid confrontation for most of the endings...but I could still have one or two endings get a little more brazen/sinister, like Samantha giving up and openly telling Greg on the phone that Flin's much larger dick is stirring up her insides right now. There's a moderate chance I'll do that, but I'm going to follow my gut as always, and it may shift once I've started building the scene and context.
 

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I almost did with this update, having Julie talk to a drunk David on the phone while she's getting railed from behind, but it's one of those things that kinda bends the texture of the whole scene around it and needs additional effort to be done well.

I'm undecided. For these final ending sex scenes, I'm looking to avoid confrontation for most of the endings...but I could still have one or two endings get a little more brazen/sinister, like Samantha giving up and openly telling Greg on the phone that Flin's much larger dick is stirring up her insides right now. There's a moderate chance I'll do that, but I'm going to follow my gut as always, and it may shift once I've started building the scene and context.
You could always create bonus scenes with ideas that you do not want as part of the main storyline. Just saying.
 

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holy, Samantha's storyline is one of the best ive seen.
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please keep doing what you doing right now, such a special experience, and the dialogues? *chief kiss* damn...

with the next update will be final, can we get pregnancy/marriage? (if possible)
peak netori, flinplatwell is the best developer to capture the essence of netori without making it too unrealistic. Ive been a huge advocate of netori for years. Im glad I came across this master piece last year. First netori focused game thats not japanese or stupidly unrealistic. Its hard to be a netori lover in a world of netorare degenerates.
 

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Yep, and yep!

EDIT: I realize in retrospect it sounds like I was saying "yep" to the compliments like a cocky bastard, so I just also wanted to say: Thanks for the kind words! Lol


All of this is correct.
Some clarification:

There are 8 endings, the way I'm grouping them.

1. Stella Loyal Ending
2. Stella Cheating Ending
3. Amy
4. Kelly
5. Julie
6. Samantha
7. Harem without Stella
8. Harem with Stella

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Harem without stella is so meaaan. My heart couldnt. Thats fucked up in a funny way. Im curious to see what you are gonna do with the samantha ending considering shes married now. You had me fingers crossed hoping you wouldnt pull some bs about her leaving the husband or cancelling the marriage last minute cause that would have really killed the whole point. And like the other guy mentioned, the addition of her friends encouraging and supporting her infidelity really added to the moment. That part when one of them said "make greg raise your forbidden love child" followed by the other one's reaction was funny. Although this game is fictional, it is a scary reminder stuff like this is happening out there left and right meanwhile some poor sucker believes his loml would never. Imo the hottest plots right now are samantha(specially after this update) followed by Julie, and then kelly. Amy's entire story is meh.
 

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Harem without stella is so meaaan.
I can do that. What my heart is not hard enough to do is string everyone along at the same time and then break everyone's heart choosing only one. Can you imagine? Breaking one heart? It hurts, but I can do it. Breaking 4 hearts? Oh no. Too much for me.
 
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You could always create bonus scenes with ideas that you do not want as part of the main storyline. Just saying.
I do do this, sometimes (kinda rare). Sometimes it's a custom commission on Patreon, sometimes it's just a fun idea I do for myself that I share on the Patreon anyway.

For example, I got really inspired one week and made two little "music videos," one for Amy and one for Julie, that are just little self-contained alternate universe short stories.

It's more like I just took images and animations I made for LLRR, then set them to some of my favorite tracks to listen to when enjoying erotica. It's really fun.
For the Julie one, I got so inspired while making it that I even made an entire sequence of images that I shared on Patreon but never put into LLRR. I'll share them here, but at half resolution as a conglomerate of thumbnails:
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So in the video, I have Stella and Flin hanging out, being lovey-dovey, then Flin meets Stella's mom, and over the course of the song I have them doing innocuous activities together. As the climax of the song approaches, David flies out on a business trip while Flin's spending the night, and he asks Julie to "keep an eye on him." She decides that means they share a bed, but of course only to discourage Flin from trying to sneak into Stella's room in the night.

Well, then the above sequence happens, where Flin decides it's hot and takes off his clothes, and Julie's visibly turned on by him doing that, then in some twisted attempt to make it seem normal, she does the same thing, then they're both in their underwear, and then David calls and Julie reaches for the phone on instinct and squishes her chest against Flin, but her hand never reaches the phone because at that point their eyes lock, the climax of the song hits, and they proceed to screw all night long with Stella sleeping soundly on the other side of the wall.

And then after that song ends ("I Want It" by Groove Coverage), I cut to the Free Bird solo and have them continue to fuck for like 4 minutes more :ROFLMAO:

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I've never shared that video or the Amy video due to use of copyrighted music (and the fact that both are just these very silly little side projects I did for fun; there's very little dialogue or actual explaining of what's going on, it's just a slideshow of images where my mind's filling in the blanks with whatever context I concocted).

Anyway, this only really works as an isolated side-story; I can't add these images to LLRR unless I decide to overwrite the entire first Julie event buildup to be this instead. I can't see it fitting anywhere else.

Harem without stella is so meaaan. My heart couldnt. Thats fucked up in a funny way. Im curious to see what you are gonna do with the samantha ending considering shes married now. You had me fingers crossed hoping you wouldnt pull some bs about her leaving the husband or cancelling the marriage last minute cause that would have really killed the whole point. And like the other guy mentioned, the addition of her friends encouraging and supporting her infidelity really added to the moment. That part when one of them said "make greg raise your forbidden love child" followed by the other one's reaction was funny. Although this game is fictional, it is a scary reminder stuff like this is happening out there left and right meanwhile some poor sucker believes his loml would never. Imo the hottest plots right now are samantha(specially after this update) followed by Julie, and then kelly. Amy's entire story is meh.
It's so funny you say that, because I was pretty nervous that by having Samantha actually follow through with the wedding and marry Greg, I was gonna piss some people off. I thought there'd surely be a vocal subset of people who would have preferred Flin actually succeed in getting her to ditch the wedding and drive off with him or something (which for the record, I personally think would have been hot in its own right...but I do think her marrying Greg is a better setup for the lategame).

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bruh how do i unlock the last 4 of samanthas scenes?
ive almost given up at this point
 

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bruh how do i unlock the last 4 of samanthas scenes?
ive almost given up at this point
It occurred to me two days ago that it's possible (1/8 chance, roughly?) to be offered all the random choice events in Chapter 12 BEFORE getting to see Samantha's wedding event, and that is...a big fuck-up on my part. I'm really sorry about that, the final update will include a "blank" chapter so that you're guaranteed a pool of events following the wedding but before the ending.

If you finished Samantha's wedding event, rewind to the ending of that and save. Then if there are any random events after that, you can reload until you're offered Samantha-related options.
If you are NOT offered any random mini date events after the wedding, then your only recourse is to start the game over and hope you don't get the 1/8 chance again.

Man, I really didn't think about that, fuck.

All 4 of those gallery images can only be seen during random mini events that involve Samantha (i.e. Romantic Date, Passionate Date, Sex, etc.)
 

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It occurred to me two days ago that it's possible (1/8 chance, roughly?) to be offered all the random choice events in Chapter 12 BEFORE getting to see Samantha's wedding event, and that is...a big fuck-up on my part. I'm really sorry about that, the final update will include a "blank" chapter so that you're guaranteed a pool of events following the wedding but before the ending.

If you finished Samantha's wedding event, rewind to the ending of that and save. Then if there are any random events after that, you can reload until you're offered Samantha-related options.
If you are NOT offered any random mini date events after the wedding, then your only recourse is to start the game over and hope you don't get the 1/8 chance again.

Man, I really didn't think about that, fuck.

All 4 of those gallery images can only be seen during random mini events that involve Samantha (i.e. Romantic Date, Passionate Date, Sex, etc.)
i restarted the game and did it all 10 times already... not counting how many times i reloaded the same save to get the random event, theres a good reason why i said i have almost given up, this is fked man
 

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i restarted the game and did it all 10 times already... not counting how many times i reloaded the same save to get the random event, theres a good reason why i said i have almost given up, this is fked man
I'm going to explain what's going on:
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This list contains the events of chapter 12. The little "r" events, of which there are 7, those are what you want.
Any time the game is offering you 4 choices on the left side of the screen, like going on a casual date or whatever, that's one of these little "r" events.

When you finish the wedding event, those little "r" events get updated to include Samantha as a possible option.
However, I shuffle the order of this list at the start of the game. If all 7 of those little "r's" get shuffled so they happen before Samantha's wedding, then it's impossible to get any date options with her.

So if you restarted 10 times and never got any, I'll admit that's some pretty wretched bad luck. Now, the random events aren't guaranteed to offer Samantha as an option, so if THAT'S your only problem and you completed the wedding, you can just save-scum the mini events. Those random events are determined on the fly, so you can even quicksave on one of those choices and quick-load, and it should change the choices.

Nonetheless, this is suboptimal, and I'm sorry I overlooked this.
Grr, I hate releasing hotfixes so much, but...well, I'll think about it. In the interim, just gonna post this comment so you have this info.
 
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Version 1.9.1 - Hotfix

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- Adds Chapter 13, which contains 8 random mini-events (the little date or sex events).

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I thought I'd finally managed a major content release where a hotfix wouldn't be necessary, but it turns out...I overlooked something pretty notable.

There was a 1/8 chance the Samantha wedding event could occur after all the mini event options in Chapter 12, thus making it impossible to go on any dates with Samantha before reaching the end of the game. There was certainly a notable chance you'd only be offered one or two date events that could have Samantha, which is not what I intended.

So I'm adding Chapter 13 just to guarantee there are eight date options that follow the wedding that can have a chance of offering Samantha as an option. Those of you who have been struggling to find the final gallery options for Samantha, this is for you.

I don't THINK this will actually break any saves, provided you save before the end of Chapter 12.
 
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i restarted the game and did it all 10 times already... not counting how many times i reloaded the same save to get the random event, theres a good reason why i said i have almost given up, this is fked man
Alright, if you download the latest version off Itch, I've added a new chapter with 8 mini-events so that no matter what happens, there are at least 8 mini events that will definitely occur AFTER the wedding event. You can save-scum at the beginning of Chapter 13 if you want to hunt for gallery images.

I'm really sorry, this was such a silly oversight on my part that just never came up during testing. This wasn't an issue with previous updates because I wasn't adding a new character to the whole lategame system.
 
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Alright, if you download the latest version off Itch, I've added a new chapter with 8 mini-events so that no matter what happens, there are at least 8 mini events that will definitely occur AFTER the wedding event. You can save-scum at the beginning of Chapter 13 if you want to hunt for gallery images.

I'm really sorry, this was such a silly oversight on my part that just never came up during testing. This wasn't an issue with previous updates because I wasn't adding a new character to the whole lategame system.
nah it happens, thats the pain of coding in the 1st place
 
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I almost did with this update, having Julie talk to a drunk David on the phone while she's getting railed from behind, but it's one of those things that kinda bends the texture of the whole scene around it and needs additional effort to be done well.

I'm undecided. For these final ending sex scenes, I'm looking to avoid confrontation for most of the endings...but I could still have one or two endings get a little more brazen/sinister, like Samantha giving up and openly telling Greg on the phone that Flin's much larger dick is stirring up her insides right now. There's a moderate chance I'll do that, but I'm going to follow my gut as always, and it may shift once I've started building the scene and context.
I mean thats the part of cheating right? they call like usual if Sus reach certain threshold u gonna be busted or etc. Its gonna be interesting i think
 
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when you do a playing without cheating with the other girls, only samantha, than the chance to get her events is much bigger
 
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