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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love, Lust & Lunacy [v1.0.1] [Meep!]

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karumi56

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So #2 abandoned for this developer.... Dr Amana was a good game never finished and now this one. I've learned my lesson and only DL completed games or ones from established developers.
Sorta...but not really. Meepish never actually did any work on DAST that was released. It was just more months (and eventually 3 years and more if you count the time before Meepish was brought in) of dev messages, teaser images and hand waving.

Maybe this one will get an update, but honestly why bother? The Patreon, which was the DAST one originally (IANVS), and converted to this title, is still cranking in revenue, even without any updates or even any dev posts. The last two weeks have had the number of paid subscribers increase.

Sadly the number of games that completed are still painfully small compared to the vast majority that get abandoned. But among the completed games on F95, some of them are really good. One of my favorites is in your signature. ;)
 

laseracid

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As I said in my post meepish has been radio silent for about 6 months now after the 1 and only update didn't land well here on 95. The discord for the game is a ghost town.
 

AlBetGam

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You gotta admit though, it's hilarious to read the self fornication in the devs comments only for said dev to abandon the game shortly afterwards.
Duration of time before a game gets abandoned is inversely proportional to the ratio of words spent describing how awesome the game will be to words spent describing what the game's actually about.

In this case with four whole paragraphs about how amazing the dev is and not a goshdarn word about what's in the game, I conclude this game was abandoned before it was posted.
 

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Gatdammm but this one had promise :cry::cry::cry::cry:
I don't like to be mean, but I'm not sure this one ever had promise. Sadly there are a lot of developers who burn really hot right off the rip, which very often means they burn out really fast. I understand everyone has RL happen, but right after a single release is pretty unlikely. The fact that Meepish did a single release and then vanished like a fart in the wind says something. I just can't tell what exactly all of the masturbatory rhetoric about the quality of the game implies. I'm guessing it's one of two things: either Meep thought she'd hit it big immediately (which almost never happens); or she is a hyper-perfectionist and so falls into the same pit of dissatisfaction that folks like Enyo Eerie and Oceanlab have.
 

desmosome

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I don't like to be mean, but I'm not sure this one ever had promise. Sadly there are a lot of developers who burn really hot right off the rip, which very often means they burn out really fast. I understand everyone has RL happen, but right after a single release is pretty unlikely. The fact that Meepish did a single release and then vanished like a fart in the wind says something. I just can't tell what exactly all of the masturbatory rhetoric about the quality of the game implies. I'm guessing it's one of two things: either Meep thought she'd hit it big immediately (which almost never happens); or she is a hyper-perfectionist and so falls into the same pit of dissatisfaction that folks like Enyo Eerie and Oceanlab have.
It seems like the dev notes was written by the Roman (original dev). He was being a hype man heh. So at least it's not like Meep wrote all that for herself and then poofed. Anyways, I would have been pleasantly surprised if she pulled it off, but realistically, I wasn't too optimistic. It wasn't the cleanest handover.
 

jamdan

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I don't like to be mean, but I'm not sure this one ever had promise. Sadly there are a lot of developers who burn really hot right off the rip, which very often means they burn out really fast. I understand everyone has RL happen, but right after a single release is pretty unlikely. The fact that Meepish did a single release and then vanished like a fart in the wind says something. I just can't tell what exactly all of the masturbatory rhetoric about the quality of the game implies. I'm guessing it's one of two things: either Meep thought she'd hit it big immediately (which almost never happens); or she is a hyper-perfectionist and so falls into the same pit of dissatisfaction that folks like Enyo Eerie and Oceanlab have.
I think it's likely a different scenario happened.

As far as I remember, Meepish is one of Roman's IRL friends. That's how Roman found her to dev the game. But Meepish had never actually done any 3D stuff before, so Roman had to teach her.

That worked out well at the start.

But eventually, Meepish realized this is a lot of work after the initial excitement of being a dev wore off. That or she realized she doesn't actually want to be a AVN dev at one point or another.

Making a game is a major commitment that someone who is brand new to AVN's likely isn't up for.
 

trumpthatbitch

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So #2 abandoned for this developer.... Dr Amana was a good game never finished and now this one. I've learned my lesson and only DL completed games or ones from established developers.
He basically was dollarstore gumdrop he always had 100 page wordy posts of what he was working on but nothing ever came of them even got his patrons to buy him new computers because heck why not. Then it crashed lost all the data. Everyone quit. Blah blah. He went through all the list of excuses and when people finally had enough he stopped even bother pretending and thus abandoned tag.

He did that over four years on the other project and people still gave him a chance? Why?
 

molerat21

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News as of yesterday and today:

The dev for Dr. Amana is back from being mia and is talking about continuing Dr. Amana. He'll make the game free on his discord and use patreon and substar for anyone who wants to contribute. This way, he'll be less beholden to the masses and wont have to listen to whiners if they don't like the way things are going. This is most likely going to be slow going cause he has to make some changes to the game, and this'll be more of a hobby to him than a job since he'll be keeping his day job. As for the spiritual successor Love, Lust, and Lunacy, it's confirmed from Dr. Amana's dev that she dropped the game due to online hate.

Keep in mind, what I've written here is a condensed version of the communications he's posted on his discord, so I might be missing info, or misread what is there. If you want the full of what's going on, I suggest you check out the general chat of his discord for that info. Also, the dev said that he may check out f95 sparingly, and mostly to rip on any haters giving grief.
 

shiqz

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News as of yesterday and today:

The dev for Dr. Amana is back from being mia and is talking about continuing Dr. Amana. He'll make the game free on his discord and use patreon and substar for anyone who wants to contribute. This way, he'll be less beholden to the masses and wont have to listen to whiners if they don't like the way things are going. This is most likely going to be slow going cause he has to make some changes to the game, and this'll be more of a hobby to him than a job since he'll be keeping his day job. As for the spiritual successor Love, Lust, and Lunacy, it's confirmed from Dr. Amana's dev that she dropped the game due to online hate.

Keep in mind, what I've written here is a condensed version of the communications he's posted on his discord, so I might be missing info, or misread what is there. If you want the full of what's going on, I suggest you check out the general chat of his discord for that info. Also, the dev said that he may check out f95 sparingly, and mostly to rip on any haters giving grief.
It's a shame though, Meep did a good Job on this one - probably should've distanced herself from F95 early on but i can understand her, still wish her the best.
 
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News as of yesterday and today:

The dev for Dr. Amana is back from being mia and is talking about continuing Dr. Amana. He'll make the game free on his discord and use patreon and substar for anyone who wants to contribute. This way, he'll be less beholden to the masses and wont have to listen to whiners if they don't like the way things are going. This is most likely going to be slow going cause he has to make some changes to the game, and this'll be more of a hobby to him than a job since he'll be keeping his day job. As for the spiritual successor Love, Lust, and Lunacy, it's confirmed from Dr. Amana's dev that she dropped the game due to online hate.

Keep in mind, what I've written here is a condensed version of the communications he's posted on his discord, so I might be missing info, or misread what is there. If you want the full of what's going on, I suggest you check out the general chat of his discord for that info. Also, the dev said that he may check out f95 sparingly, and mostly to rip on any haters giving grief.
Nice!
And what online hate? She was unreasonably optimist about it, got some flak for it, but the new version was looking good, AFAIK.
 
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Nice!
And what online hate? She was unreasonably optimist about it, got some flak for it, but the new version was looking good, AFAIK.
If you don't think she'd gotten any hateful comments online, you apparently haven't been online very long... which is impossible, given your join date to this site. There were some pretty harsh things said, although I don't remember specific places I saw them. (I think some might have been on her Discord, even.) She tried to keep telling herself, "Screw them, it doesn't matter what haters say," but it sounds like she let it all get to her anyway. Pretty sad, given her artistic talents. I really do hope she's well IRL.
 
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If you don't think she'd gotten any hateful comments online, you apparently haven't been online very long... which is impossible, given your join date to this site. There were some pretty harsh things said, although I don't remember specific places I saw them. (I think some might have been on her Discord, even.) She tried to keep telling herself, "Screw them, it doesn't matter what haters say," but it sounds like she let it all get to her anyway. Pretty sad, given her artistic talents. I really do hope she's well IRL.
Ok, rewording: I didn't see that she got more than the usual stupidity with the fact in mind that we are on a porn game forum :D
 

Avaron1974

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Pretty much the same reason Nyx dropped the site too. She got tired of dealing with idiots.

Notty also dropped the site.

In fact, quite a few devs have after dealing with bullshit.

Surprising how aggro some people get when a dev tells them they aren't changing content to suit them. Jet also had it with the sister in his game and people raging because she wasn't a LI. He rarely posts anyway so no need to abandon site, not that he gives a shit about the complainers anyway.
 

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Pretty much the same reason Nyx dropped the site too. She got tired of dealing with idiots.

Notty also dropped the site.

In fact, quite a few devs have after dealing with bullshit.

Surprising how aggro some people get when a dev tells them they aren't changing content to suit them. Jet also had it with the sister in his game and people raging because she wasn't a LI. He rarely posts anyway so no need to abandon site, not that he gives a shit about the complainers anyway.
Yep. Unfortunately, you need to grow an extremely thick skin if you're going to go into any creative endeavor. It became especially true with the development of the Internet. What once had been mostly limited to critics (i.e., failures in life, so they vomit all over everyone else) now is multiplied thousands of times by anonymous assholes online (i.e., failures in life, so they vomit all over everyone else). I guess it shows that, even when you've got decades behind you, being an "adult" doesn't mean being an adult. You're supposed to learn that stomping your feet and crying nonstop will not get you what you want. But there are still many toddlers masquerading as grown-ups among us.
 

Joshy92

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Pretty much the same reason Nyx dropped the site too. She got tired of dealing with idiots.

Notty also dropped the site.

In fact, quite a few devs have after dealing with bullshit.

Surprising how aggro some people get when a dev tells them they aren't changing content to suit them. Jet also had it with the sister in his game and people raging because she wasn't a LI. He rarely posts anyway so no need to abandon site, not that he gives a shit about the complainers anyway.
Do you mean NottyGames? because they were online just today so they haven't really dropped the site. Although I do think its best if devs don't come on here.
 
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