Andrr Dobe

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So how do you activate Jenny event in book 2. Also where the main mom did see go back to America or just let's chloe take over.
 

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So how do you activate Jenny event in book 2. Also where the main mom did see go back to America or just let's chloe take over.
Mom's there (you talk to her briefly in Act VIII+, and she's got a role to play in Act IX). Jenny's content, if you've done at least Black Rose II in book 1, just go and talk to her to trigger the beginning of her new stage. Also, check out your computer, it's gotten an upgrade.
 
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Asking for a spolier:
What combination of coffee does what effect? I assume if I choose the correct one, I will get a boost on a certain abilities book? There are just too many options to try all of them xD
 
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Asking for a spolier:
What combination of coffee does what effect? I assume if I choose the correct one, I will get a boost on a certain abilities book? There are just too many options to try all of them xD
The coffee reference is a joke; in Making Movies Chloe has a guest appearance as crazy barrista, whose beans make you stronger/smarter or smoother, culminating in the red hot chilli tequila, which must be conquered to get her to make a movie for you.

In Love of Magic, the Coffee is just coffee; as the barrista says, we get our beans online, not from never-never land. Just order what you want, or tell her you want a plain black if you don't care for coffee. You're there for the books, and the barrista ;)
 

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So much effort for an insider joke and I even didn't get it... I am so sorry xD
Thx for the explanation
No worries, I enjoy little in-jokes and references like that. Layer upon layer of foreshadowing, shout-outs, pop-culture references, etc. You'll likely spot a bunch of stuff on the second play-through that you missed on the first one.
 

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Hey where did you get the idea for the title black rose did you watch yugioh and saw Akiza who is the best female character in yugioh. Also my test battle is going black on my android.
 

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@Droid Productions: I think I mentioned this somewhere previously but after playing the latest update I feel I need to state it explicitly:

Having Excalibur recharge off of damage nullified by barrier is pretty broken. Maybe I'm just over-leveled from playing a bunch in the endless mode after chapters are complete, sitting at Level 63 with Str 126, Int 101, Cha 154 and Swordmanship 36. But against the Prince of the Abyss I was trivially keeping up barrier and still being able to use his damage up ability in between as well. From there it's just a matter of chewing through the HP pool.


P.S.: The text pop up for the damage up says it's double damage for 3 turns which clearly isn't the case (anymore?)
 

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Having Excalibur recharge off of damage nullified by barrier is pretty broken. Maybe I'm just over-leveled from playing a bunch in the endless mode after chapters are complete, sitting at Level 63 with Str 126, Int 101, Cha 154 and Swordmanship 36. But against the Prince of the Abyss I was trivially keeping up barrier and still being able to use his damage up ability in between as well. From there it's just a matter of chewing through the HP pool.
Yes, if you grind away in Act+ (guilty) you can outpace the games designed challenge. If you aren't there already, consider switching up to Ultra difficulty. I think Droid's more concerned with getting the card game out of the way of those that don't enjoy that mechanic than balancing it on the top end right now.

He has just added a new strategic combat system minigame. I expect we'll see ongoing tweaks to that for a while. Since it is, by design, completely optional; it will be interesting to see where that goes with him not having to worry about tailoring it for use by those that want no part of it :)
 

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Yes, if you grind away in Act+ (guilty) you can outpace the games designed challenge. If you aren't there already, consider switching up to Ultra difficulty.
I don't know all the game's mechanics in detail but in this case it probably uses the companion recharge mechanic which, to my knowledge, keys off of charisma. The thing is though that it also increases with enemy damage so there's a point were, if the enemy is strong enough, you can just keep spamming barrier to stay invulnerable. Higher charisma just means this will happen sooner against weaker enemies. So upping the difficulty would actually be counter productive.

I think Droid's more concerned with getting the card game out of the way of those that don't enjoy that mechanic than balancing it on the top end right now.
I'm not sure how much of a top end problem this is as I haven't tested at which point it becomes a problem. But it feels like any attempt to put a "too strong" enemy in front of the player is rendered moot by this. You always get barrier and always have excalibur equipped/with you. I don't think you need broken stats for this.

Of course it's up to Droid if and/or when he'll fix this. I just wanted to make sure it's come to his attention.
 
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I don't know all the game's mechanics in detail but in this case it probably uses the companion recharge mechanic which, to my knowledge, keys off of charisma.
Charisma is the stat that affects companion recharge, as well as dmg you do + dmg to you.

The thing is though that it also increases with enemy damage so there's a point were, if the enemy is strong enough, you can just keep spamming barrier to stay invulnerable.
Against some enemies (outsiders), this is more or less required and there are encounters where it is simply the intended approach as the mobs will shred you if you don't use it. Gem build also factors into this. Ice and Poison centric builds make recharging tougher.

Higher charisma just means this will happen sooner against weaker enemies. So upping the difficulty would actually be counter productive.
It's a trade off. You do less damage, mobs do more, certain companion capabilities (like Molly's wildcards) are adjusted/weakened, and average encountered mob level increases.

With stats over 100, that's effectively out of the balance curve on the top end. The game just isn't really designed to be that challenging once stats reach those levels. Book 2 balancing will move the bar upward hopefully, but Book 2 has a long way (60%) left to go.

I'm not sure how much of a top end problem this is as I haven't tested at which point it becomes a problem. But it feels like any attempt to put a "too strong" enemy in front of the player is rendered moot by this.
It's not exclusively a top end problem, it's an infinitely scaling invulnerability problem. You can gimp any of the major encounters this way. The trick just becomes optimizing the speed you take down your opponent.

You always get barrier and always have excalibur equipped/with you. I don't think you need broken stats for this.
Droid seems to be very much a 'no player left behind' sort. This means he wants to be sure players can win fights and continue the story, regardless of whether they are playing the combat game well, or optimizing stats, etc. Which means a player with 15 STR and 20 CHA needs to beat the same mob another player might fight with 10x those stats at the same difficulty.

As a result combat effectiveness is partially decoupled from stats and build optimization by giving players mechanics (Excalibur, Emily...) that allow them to win even if they are 'weak'

Personally, I advocate for making Hard/Ultra more brutal. If you come to the Ultra party, it needs to be balanced to kick your butt and leave treadmarks if you don't play smart and hard. Leave the "I'm just here for the story" and "I hate the card game" players 'Normal' and below.

We'll just have to wait and see what he comes up with ;-)
 

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Dear Droid you know i think Jenny and Olivia should team up. Both are elevating the main characters Olivia with branding katie the red devil and Jenny with starting a cult following for owyn. Also like there trying to turned them into the masters of the universe when this series end cuz with most life gone via the outsider the world could devolve into the winner Reigns Supreme. Lastly is fenris the norse son of loki allowed to be in the game like maybe as a God of werewolves. Cuz in some myths he is one like for a Bella quest she is my favorite character, and have you seen the new god of war ragnarok trailer.
 

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lol if you think you are overpowered with those stats i can only assume you did not maximize properly! so cute! by the end of the chapter my strenght is over 200 and intelligence is getting there plus swordmanship at ! (save from before the update where you could train every rest in the morning battle) but i did not fight the demon lord so...
If you seriously think I'd report a bug just to brag about my stats in a porn game on an anonymous forum I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Hello to all. I took the pc into service and they reinstalled windows 10 64 bit. I lost everything I had. If anyone is kind enough to give me the last save before this update, I'll pick up where I left off. (what is the path of the save?)
Thanks
 

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Howdy, I'm having trouble triggering Akane's coffeeshop slice of life event. I've done my darndest. What are the triggers for this event? The walkthrough says day 64+.
 

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Howdy, I'm having trouble triggering Akane's coffeeshop slice of life event. I've done my darndest. What are the triggers for this event? The walkthrough says day 64+.
It has a relatively narrow window (has to happen after you become close to her, but before she becomes Chosen). Happens between 72 and 92, and won't trigger at night.
 
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Well, I am nearly at the end of the first book and I encountered that I somehow messed things up. As reported previously, if you do the pixie and catgirl-Chloe event at the wrong time, it will crash. I basically never showered in the evening (only at nights or late nights) so I didn't trigger neither event. But now and even if I go back to day 20 (save from day - option), I simply cannot shower at evenings, there is no button for that...

Not sure if I managed to crash my entire saved game, but I will run a new game just to test after I finished up things.

Just to let you know Droid, except that, all is perfectly fine :D
 
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