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Ugh123

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Dec 5, 2017
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Need a little help with Morgan - I can't get the "take morgan on a date to the cinema" to register (have tried doing it different days, on days she has asked for date, etc. - no change - then under Morgan and Kleio, it says "get to know Morgan better" and is stuck at 96%... is it a bug?
 

Cocona

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Dec 9, 2018
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Can I force to unlock Morgan if she got red x already?
it's too much for me if I must start over again.
 

Vasin

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Need a little help with Morgan - I can't get the "take morgan on a date to the cinema" to register (have tried doing it different days, on days she has asked for date, etc. - no change - then under Morgan and Kleio, it says "get to know Morgan better" and is stuck at 96%... is it a bug?
There are two cinema date events,


Although second one might not show up in the tracker if the save was carried over. Here are conditions for the second event:

It's as I already said - you need to go on a cinema date after you've been on a day cinema date, there's not much else to it. I just checked and it triggers fine.
Those are actually not real meters, they are scaled per goal, so for example if you have "get to know X better" that means you need to progress to the next LP threshold, eg from 20 displayed LP to 40. And the progressbar is scaled to that.

In other words - 96% progress bar in "get to know Morgan better" is there because the event requires 125 LP and the current cap is 120, so you capped at 96% of required LP.
Can I force to unlock Morgan if she got red x already?
it's too much for me if I must start over again.
Type jump morgan_event_02 in the console, it will launch you into her second event after which she gets enabled. You will not get her tab in story tracker though.

Enable console with unren
I've heard of this wonderful thing called using search function, you might want to try it.
 
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Cocona

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Dec 9, 2018
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I've heard of this wonderful thing called using search function, you might want to try it.
I did that but I got the wrong keywords, I thought is "unlocking morgan".
anyway ty, I tried it and works. cheers mate.
 

BryEpoo

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Feb 19, 2019
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If you guys need some coding help I'll be happy to lend a hand. I've spent enough time in the renpy console fixing random stuff.
Do you know how to fix the drug use(weed) causing a traceback? I mean it's no big deal if not.
 
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kidderyao

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Jun 30, 2018
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The 2 hours to beach thing also doesn't work as in not advancing time 2 hours when moving there despite the bar showing +2h. Or what is it supposed to do?

(some other dates, Cherrie visits come to mind esp, also do not advance time)

(Palla's movie date is also borken, triggering on any girl's 'invite to a date' icon while she is present, very confusing)

If you guys need some coding help I'll be happy to lend a hand. I've spent enough time in the renpy console fixing random stuff.
preg
 

Zero201

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Mar 21, 2019
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So played the game and loved it despite the grind although I seem to be stuck with Kylie she is currently at 50 love points and one yandere point yet she seems to have stopped reacting to anything I do with other girls I tried kissing, complimenting, spanking, petting, and tickling bree in front of her and she still did not give a reaction not even an increase in her yandere score it is still stuck at 1 so I can't trigger the event where she gets mad for flirting with another girl does anyone else have this problem if so how do I fix it?
 

ThunderRob

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first..you dont want yandere Kylie :D she cut's off Bree's head and hands it to you as a present in a box and then slashes you to bits..game over :p
 

CurtisBlaydes

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Pressing menu on android doesn't actually show the menu but the save screen instead, having no option to load saves either unless you delete reload file.
 

Zero201

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Mar 21, 2019
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first..you dont want yandere Kylie :D she cut's off Bree's head and hands it to you as a present in a box and then slashes you to bits..game over :p
Oh well regardless I still cannot progress her event it seems I may have stumbled upon a bug that prevents Kylie from reacting to anything
 

rockd

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Jul 31, 2017
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This game has so much potential. I wish the devs would rather focus on existing girls rather than constantly introducing new ones. Also I'd rather prefer some kind of story instead of an hour long mindless grind. Does anyone actually enjoy grinding stats instead of actual conversions with the characters? All that grinding for really short sex scenes... Imo other games like FET or Summertime Saga do a far better job when it comes to designing enjoyable character interactions.
 
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Andrealphus

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This game has so much potential. I wish the devs would rather focus on existing girls rather than constantly introducing new ones. Also I'd rather prefer some kind of story instead of an hour long mindless grind. Does anyone actually enjoy grinding stats instead of actual conversions with the characters? All that grinding for really short sex scenes... Imo other games like FET or Summertime Saga do a far better job when it comes to designing enjoyable character interactions.
Then go play them
 

Andrealphus

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I will even without you telling me. Great how you are so open to criticism. Now I wish I had not supported you on Patreon before.
I am open to constructive critics not just shitting on something I have been working on for three years without any argument.
Each piece of story is separated by at most 10 minutes of actual game not stupid useless minigames. That's not mindless grinding.
I am sorry you are butt hurt by my answer, really.
 
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rockd

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I wasn't shitting on anything and compared to you, I was being rather polite. It's not like I am the only person being critical of the grindy "gameplay" mechanics. Maybe you should start to reflect on some of the low star reviews, instead of spending another three years on making a game that isn't all that enjoyable to play. (--> then don't play it --> Yeah, I won't)
 
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Cartageno

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Yeah, of course the reviews for this game are below average for this kind of game, which obviously means some people don't like it as much while they like others, of a similar type (the examples you mentioned: 2d graphic sandbox), more. And that can be reason for concern if Andrealphus wanted to compete with them.

But for one point it would be absolutely annoying if all devs would go for the way that gets them a maximum rating because that would mean most games would be virtually the same. And while many people would enjoy that (hence the good ratings), others not as much, so if you find your niche then you can ignore part of the rating issue. That there's always some players not liking games is unavoidable, you may just not fit their taste (and since I heard complaints about "my mother is not a virgin but had sex with other people" I think everything is possible). So games being different is a good thing for the whole genre, even if it means some people will enjoy less games.

And I think this is especially true with the whole "grindy" question. Some players, myself included, prefer a slow story progression, prefer working a bit for their reward. Others want to have every girl jumping at them in the first scene. Yet others are inbetween. None of them is wrong, but again, many would not like the other games.

And the second point is: a dev more or less has to do what they want to do. Listen to their players and patrons for ideas, sure. But a dev who makes a game solely for player requests will most likely make a game they themselves would not like as much, and the game will suffer for it. There's more to it than just "drop mechanic X and add kink Y and people will love your game more". They probably won't, even if they despise mechanic X and love kink Y.

As for me, of the three games compared here I prefer L&S by far and would be disappointed if it were to be closer to the others. Which admittedly is a somewhat moot point since I am not a patron (so far), and it doesn't mean that the other games are bad, just that different people have different tastes.
 
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