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TylerJ

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why cant you say no to samantha joining home harem, I only progressed samantha route to try and trigger lexi trailer burned down. I dont want to include samantha in the home harem. Is there a way to force lexi trailer burned down with console or URM?
Why are lexis events even tied to samantha, unless samantha sets the trailer on fire off screen what gives?
the wiki acts like this isnt the case constantly saying ' Depending on which girls are already part of the home harem', but this isnt true. Its impossible to trigger lexis events without first triggering samantha joining in which case there is no option to say no, or get the other housemates to refuse.
 
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why cant you say no to samantha joining home harem, I only progressed samantha route to try and trigger lexi trailer burned down. I dont want to include samantha in the home harem. Is there a way to force lexi trailer burned down with console or URM?
Why are lexis events even tied to samantha, unless samantha sets the trailer on fire off screen what gives?
I don't know if it will work, I guess use Console and use the command del done commonds for all Samantha events after she asks for moving to home and use storytracker refresh command maybe there's a variable for making her schedule default too
 

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The base game is the game without DLCs (no Bree, no FAFOW, no FAFWM). As far as I'm concerned, that game is done (and it has been for a while). I don't understand the notion that if the dev is planning to release additional content after the fact, because people like the game, that this is somehow "proof" that the game "isn't done yet". That makes no sense. Optional DLC is optional. If they elected never to release it, the base game would still be just as done. If you delete those DLCs your

But also telling is your previous comment, where you said



One game is from 2018, and the other one is a couple months old. I for one be VERY surprised if the months-old, smaller game could surpass views and reviews of a game that's been around receiving monthly updates every single month without fail for 7 years.

The dev is doing what any smart dev would, which is to come up with more ways to make money, there's no shame in that.
The fact that the most recent girls are released as dlc is a marketing tactic and has nothing to do with how close the game is to being completed.
The game could as easily be concidered to be done after 5 girls, 10 girls or 30 girls. It doesn't change the core gameplay formula.
If Kat, Amy and Reona had been released as part of the core game, nobody would have blinked. Just like people wouldn't have been surprised if, say, Camila, Harmony and Palla had been released as dlc instead.

The engagement that the OG game has compared to the Shawn game is outnumbered by a factor of more than 300:1. And that is in spite of the fact that the original game had to build up its fanbase and reputation from literally nothing. The Shawn game came in cruising on the brandname and existing fanbase of the 8th most seen game on this entire site. Countless people checking it out on the merits of it's familiar name alone. And it STILL flopped.

Like I said, yes, a dev needs to keep things fresh to continue making money. But not all new ideas are good ideas. Sometimes you come up with a concept and user reception immediately shows that the market for your new idea just doesn't exist. At which point the correct idea ISN'T to continue hammering away at it, instead of pivoting towards something else.

The correct move would have been to see the subpar launch of the Shawn game, and keep the idea train moving. Instead Andrealphus is now wasting time on adding Bree and Camila to a product that people don't care about. It's bad business strategy.
 
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The fact that the most recent girls are released as dlc is a marketing tactic and has nothing to do with how close the game is to being completed.
The game could as easily be concidered to be done after 5 girls, 10 girls or 30 girls. It doesn't change the core gameplay formula.
If Kat, Amy and Reona had been released as part of the core game, nobody would have blinked. Just like people wouldn't have been surprised if, say, Camila, Harmony and Palla had been released as dlc instead.
It has EVERYTHING to do with it. The game is completed. Period. Full stop. If you never download ANY DLC at all and just play the game as it exists, it's a full, completed experience. It has a beginning, middle, and end (several endings, actually). How can you look at that, compare to any other ACTUALLY incomplete games in this site (to keep to the biggest example, Summertime Saga) and say it's "not complete"? That's just laughable and I can't believe I have to state something so obvious. You can't possibly be that dense that you think a developer continuing to support their completed game means the game is suddenly "not complete".

The engagement that the OG game has compared to the Shawn game is outnumbered by a factor of more than 300:1.
Again, one game is a couple months old. The other is EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. There's no universe in which Shawn's Story would outnumber or even be on par with the main release. "Flopped" is a fucking opinion, my friend. You have no actual idea if it sold or not, because you're basing yourself on numbers from an 8 year old game vs. a couple months. You can't actually be this dumb, come on.

The correct move would have been to see the subpar launch of the Shawn game, and keep the idea train moving. Instead Andrealphus is now wasting time on adding Bree and Camila to a product that people don't care about. It's bad business strategy.
The "correct" move is the one that brings the dev money. Since you're on a pirate site, I assume not only you didn't pay for anything, but you're also not privy to the developer's finances. Do you think anyone sound of mind would continue to pour time and effort supporting a product that not only ISN'T profitable, but also easily pirated? Lol.
 

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It has EVERYTHING to do with it. The game is completed. Period. Full stop. If you never download ANY DLC at all and just play the game as it exists, it's a full, completed experience. It has a beginning, middle, and end (several endings, actually). How can you look at that, compare to any other ACTUALLY incomplete games in this site (to keep to the biggest example, Summertime Saga) and say it's "not complete"? That's just laughable and I can't believe I have to state something so obvious. You can't possibly be that dense that you think a developer continuing to support their completed game means the game is suddenly "not complete".



Again, one game is a couple months old. The other is EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. There's no universe in which Shawn's Story would outnumber or even be on par with the main release. "Flopped" is a fucking opinion, my friend. You have no actual idea if it sold or not, because you're basing yourself on numbers from an 8 year old game vs. a couple months. You can't actually be this dumb, come on.



The "correct" move is the one that brings the dev money. Since you're on a pirate site, I assume not only you didn't pay for anything, but you're also not privy to the developer's finances. Do you think anyone sound of mind would continue to pour time and effort supporting a product that not only ISN'T profitable, but also easily pirated? Lol.
For it's first month on Steam, Shawn'story did 2.5 times the sales that Love & Sex:Second Base proper did on it's own first month on Steam.
 

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It's mostly because our community and player base has grown a lot in 5 years i think ^^
 

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It has EVERYTHING to do with it. The game is completed. Period. Full stop. If you never download ANY DLC at all and just play the game as it exists, it's a full, completed experience. It has a beginning, middle, and end (several endings, actually). How can you look at that, compare to any other ACTUALLY incomplete games in this site (to keep to the biggest example, Summertime Saga) and say it's "not complete"? That's just laughable and I can't believe I have to state something so obvious. You can't possibly be that dense that you think a developer continuing to support their completed game means the game is suddenly "not complete".



Again, one game is a couple months old. The other is EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. There's no universe in which Shawn's Story would outnumber or even be on par with the main release. "Flopped" is a fucking opinion, my friend. You have no actual idea if it sold or not, because you're basing yourself on numbers from an 8 year old game vs. a couple months. You can't actually be this dumb, come on.



The "correct" move is the one that brings the dev money. Since you're on a pirate site, I assume not only you didn't pay for anything, but you're also not privy to the developer's finances. Do you think anyone sound of mind would continue to pour time and effort supporting a product that not only ISN'T profitable, but also easily pirated? Lol.
Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking my guy. Redo 5th grade if you can, get a hold of some of the fundamentals.
Like I already thoroughly explained: The game could have been counted as "completed" 5 years ago, it could be counted as completed with just Bree and Sasha in it. Whether they stopped the "main game development" after 2, 10 or 30 girls doesn't matter because the gameplay formula is the same. There is not a specific number of girls at which point the game can be concidered done. No matter what, it's going to be an arbitrary decision, because every girls storyline is more or less narratively independent and there isn't some central narrative. Andrealphus could have kept going with the base game until there were 50 girls, or stopped after 5, and the game would have played the same. Do you get it now? Please say you get it now, it cannot be this fucking hard to comprehend.

You want stats backing up my statement?
Alright, here is Andrealphus's patreon graph for the last 5 years. Notice if you will, the steep drop in revenue that began around the time when Mike content began to run out in late 2024, and has been dropping like a brick throughout 2025, the year in which practically all that has been released is Bree and Shawn content. The Shawn shit clearly isn't drawing an audience.


It flopped because it came unto the scene for a creator with a massive fanbase. Do you know how many Nsfw-devs would KILL to have thousands of paying patrons waiting for new content, at the launch of a new game? Any new game with a half decent concept from Andrealphus should have been a major hit. And yet, those paying customers have evidently been increasingly leaving through the backdoor throughout the entire development process, because this shit doesn't appeal to them.

So if the correct move indeed is the one that makes the dev money, clearly EVERYTHING they have been doing in 2025 is not it. By your own admission.

And for the record, I WAS a Patreon. For about half a year in 2024, when the FAFOW content was in full swing, and the devs actually worked on content that the audience liked.

So in short: quit yapping, baby boy. You are factually wrong about every single thing you say.
 
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