kylarnoel

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Hi, for some reason I cannot seem to be able to trigger Jen's Love and Lewd events, even though her stats are over the requirement. Is there a hidden step I'm missing? I've already tried sleeping multiple times to trigger the events.

I've attached my latest save.
 

bangbang300

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Hi, for some reason I cannot seem to be able to trigger Jen's Love and Lewd events, even though her stats are over the requirement. Is there a hidden step I'm missing? I've already tried sleeping multiple times to trigger the events.

I've attached my latest save.
Need to finger her one more time, i did it while watching tv with her, then go to bed and you will have the option for going camping

If you check goals screen and see some of the options being with a lock showing by the requirements then see if you can do them, and it will bring you further (Y)
 
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Wisthep

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Thanks I'll take a look at this buggy stuff you posted. Seems strange that the Jen gym stuff isn't locked behind a stage level that would have stopped you banging too early, so I'll have to take a good look at that. Just going on memory I thought that the christine reward thing should have the navbar at the bottom but I'll double check it.

Glad you liked to see the home events. I did a vote with a selection of options so I certainly want to fill it more. Like I probably said, I'll get to it eventually ;) Good chance I'll do a couple for the next release too.

I'll certainly do the Jen thing with the Nav. Once again thanks for taking the time to provide so much helpful feedback!
Nay bother about the feedback pal. Happy to oblige. Regarding the Christine rewards I believe it's only missing on the last set of rewards if that helps your diagnosis, that said you've now got me questioning myself even though I tend to keep notepad open for logging potential bugs so I might give it another quick playthrough to be sure. Any excuse eh? I've been tempted to try a speedrun to see how quickly I can see every scene in the game ever since I answered the person complaining about how long it was taking so maybe I'll give that a go. I suspect the multiple party scenes might make it longer than I assume and I'm making a rough estimate of 120 in game days.

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I was wrong about it just being the last set of rewards, as you can see from this screenshot which is just after the conversation with Christine to start doing reward tasks there is no way to back out if you don't have the points except by hitting the back button in the top left corner.

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I guess I forgot to check for the car in that Lydia event. Though technically it still works since the MC can drive and has a license at the start of the game, just not a car. Pretty sure it says Jen sold hers when you go to buy the MC once. Though forgetting to check things like this is becoming more common as the game gets larger, which makes sense I guess so I appreciate people pointing out them out.
Yeah the first or second line of dialogue in the text message she sends for the hike says something like "we need your car etc.", it just stuck in my mind that particular playthrough as I hadn't bothered to go and buy the car yet, usually I do it the day after the message and it's probably not something most people would notice but I'm weird like that.

Balancing the money faucets and sinks isn't the easiest thing for me to do. Once everything is complete I'll be better able perhaps. I think most outgrow the need for money fairly quickly (a safe balance), but with a sandbox there's obviously a lot of little differences that can occur in play style which could starve some players. One thing I am planning to do with this problem, is make sure there are some fairly big expenses at the end of the game. I could do some real evil things there with the balancing that might force you to turn to the girls for "help". Who knows!

I did avoid adding any sort of expenses to travel, same reason why there's no time change when you do. I've always hated stuff like this in other games I played. Usually it's janky, or just outright pointless. And of course there's the pretentious game dev answer of "why would I discourage you from moving around the world?"
I understand why you made this choice if you go too hard on the stats then it increases the chances of people complaining about grind or difficulty. I was just spitballing ideas that I thought were better than cars and I certainly don't expect any of them to make it into the game.

I could do some real evil things there with the balancing that might force you to turn to the girls for "help". Who knows!
Damn, that's some grade A foreshadowing right there. :devilish:
 
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Hi, for some reason I cannot seem to be able to trigger Jen's Love and Lewd events, even though her stats are over the requirement. Is there a hidden step I'm missing? I've already tried sleeping multiple times to trigger the events.

I've attached my latest save.
Like the other guy said, just need to finger or go down on her one more time to proceed.

Nay bother about the feedback pal. Happy to oblige. Regarding the Christine rewards I believe it's only missing on the last set of rewards if that helps your diagnosis, that said you've now got me questioning myself even though I tend to keep notepad open for logging potential bugs so I might give it another quick playthrough to be sure. Any excuse eh? I've been tempted to try a speedrun to see how quickly I can see every scene in the game ever since I answered the person complaining about how long it was taking so maybe I'll give that a go. I suspect the multiple party scenes might make it longer than I assume and I'm making a rough estimate of 120 in game days.

Edit:

I was wrong about it just being the last set of rewards, as you can see from this screenshot which is just after the conversation with Christine to start doing reward tasks there is no way to back out if you don't have the points except by hitting the back button in the top left corner.

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Yeah the first or second line of dialogue in the text message she sends for the hike says something like "we need your car etc.", it just stuck in my mind that particular playthrough as I hadn't bothered to go and buy the car yet, usually I do it the day after the message and it's probably not something most people would notice but I'm weird like that.



I understand why you made this choice if you go too hard on the stats then it increases the chances of people complaining about grind or difficulty. I was just spitballing ideas that I thought were better than cars and I certainly don't expect any of them to make it into the game.



Damn, that's some grade A foreshadowing right there. :devilish:
Oh yeah I forgot the actual wording of the Lydia text. Definitely something I'll have to go back and fix then since it does bother me. I do have a fairly substantial idea for the endings, or rather all the prep/work you'll have to do before triggering them. I think it might end up being the largest mechanic set in the game if it all comes together as I hope.
 

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Release 10.5 Plans

Firstly, sorry for keeping you all in the dark for so long compared to usual. I am back to work after a series of IRL disruptions. So here's what's coming next:
  • Lydia Modelling/Porn Career P2 - The transition to adult work, as you saw on Jen's path. But a little more involved. Not sure how many scenes will be available at the end yet, but more will come in future releases
  • Lydia Home Events - I'll start to fill out her endgame home events, hopefully a small selection
  • Fit Level 9 reward - Content that was cut from R10, a reward from Christine for reaching fit level 9
  • Jen Home Events - Probably another event like you saw in R10
To be released about a month from now, so between the 10th and 15th of Feb :)
 

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I'm very dumb and can't figure out how to parse out what the variables are coded as
Okay quick tutorial, for you and anyone else really
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While you CAN mess with job progression, you shouldn't unless you know exactly what you're doing. It's easy as hell to break things.
 
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A couple of bugs/issues I ran into:

  • The sex events with Jen while she does yoga in the living room can currently be triggered before you actually cross that line with her, and it seems like the conditions for the time of day may be incorrect as well as they appear in the evening during TV time.
  • I'm not sure if it was user error, but I was leveling Lydia up via the Lewd route and eventually got stuck at I think 400/400 (iirc, with the game telling me that I couldn't progress any further). Later, I progressed the Love route past this point, which then unlocked more of the Lewd route. Is it intended that you can't progress her through purely Lewd means, did I hit a bug, or did I just do something wrong?
Overall, this is easily one of the best games on the site. The attention to detail is fantastic and the amount of content is pretty staggering. Keep up the great work!
 
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A couple of bugs/issues I ran into:

  • The sex events with Jen while she does yoga in the living room can currently be triggered before you actually cross that line with her, and it seems like the conditions for the time of day may be incorrect as well as they appear in the evening during TV time.
  • I'm not sure if it was user error, but I was leveling Lydia up via the Lewd route and eventually got stuck at I think 400/400 (iirc, with the game telling me that I couldn't progress any further). Later, I progressed the Love route past this point, which then unlocked more of the Lewd route. Is it intended that you can't progress her through purely Lewd means, did I hit a bug, or did I just do something wrong?
Overall, this is easily one of the best games on the site. The attention to detail is fantastic and the amount of content is pretty staggering. Keep up the great work!
Thanks and I'm glad you enjoy it! Appreciate the bug reports, the links should be fixed in the next release. As for Lydia, I can't really say what's going on there from the description. You should of course be able to progress down the lewd route. I'll make a note to investigate. There's quite a lot of "mixed" story progression early on so it's possible you missed a link to continue on the lewd and then later unlocked the love option. Sorry for the lack of definitive answer but as you said, the game is so massive at this point I genuinely need to go back over stuff myself just to remember what's going on!
 
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Thanks and I'm glad you enjoy it! Appreciate the bug reports, the links should be fixed in the next release. As for Lydia, I can't really say what's going on there from the description. You should of course be able to progress down the lewd route. I'll make a note to investigate. There's quite a lot of "mixed" story progression early on so it's possible you missed a link to continue on the lewd and then later unlocked the love option. Sorry for the lack of definitive answer but as you said, the game is so massive at this point I genuinely need to go back over stuff myself just to remember what's going on!
I figured out my point of confusion in a new Lewd-only playthrough. Seeing these "This is as far as you can get for now, stay tuned!" messages at the 800/800 level (which don't normally appear when doing maxed stat activities) confused me into thinking it was a content end rather than simply a stat barrier. Ultimately, I just missed the timing for the costume party trigger :)

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I also found another minor issue: between 200-400 Lewd (and possibly Love), there are two separate Hang Out options when finding Lydia in her room. The latter definitely seems to be intended for the next level, as clicking through to it just reveals a bunch of locked options.

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Man I would really like it if the dev just focus on Jen's path. Alexis Fawx is hot as hell and I love to marry her or something like that.
You'll definitely get to do some interesting things with her for her endings!

I figured out my point of confusion in a new Lewd-only playthrough. Seeing these "This is as far as you can get for now, stay tuned!" messages at the 800/800 level (which don't normally appear when doing maxed stat activities) confused me into thinking it was a content end rather than simply a stat barrier. Ultimately, I just missed the timing for the costume party trigger :)

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I also found another minor issue: between 200-400 Lewd (and possibly Love), there are two separate Hang Out options when finding Lydia in her room. The latter definitely seems to be intended for the next level, as clicking through to it just reveals a bunch of locked options.

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Ah thanks for pointing out that message. That should have been removed ages ago but I guess nobody mentioned it. And same for the link, though I think I found and fixed this myself a couple weeks ago...? Be sure to yell at me again if it crops back up in the next release.
 

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You'll definitely get to do some interesting things with her for her endings!
This shouldn't even be in the ending. There's a lot of content to explore for the mom character. Marital life, pregnancy, etc. It's a lot of potential. I don't think adding a whole lot of female characters are fun to play. 3 should be the maximum otherwise players would forget some of their names between patches. Sometimes less is more, character's development >>> number of characters.
 
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