dingo4life

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Thanks! Glad to hear the android thing worked for you. Google seems to be doing everything it can to make running stuff like this as painful as possible.

I hear what you're saying about NTR. There's a whole load of niches under that umbrella (whether appropriate or not is something constantly argued about), but I just used the term to communicate stuff with others that's not the MC. Actual cheating on the MC is unlikely to happen.

Currently the jobs are the only way to really get this stuff in there, but that'll be changing with the new extra stats and the car etc. The jobs give you everything at once based on her love/lewd levels, primarily so you can see what's available and also to not be forced into doing things you might not want to do (having a A -> B -> C routing would force you for example). What's coming soon might be a bit more like what you are looking for as a more progression based system.

The stripclub morale is not useless. It actually upgrades the club, mainly the stripper income. These come as small events that happen automatically once you get it high enough. Problem is there's nowhere to actually see how much you need or what you'll get, like the usual upgrades. That's my bad, I'll have to fit it in somewhere. These upgrades will play a big role in the stripclub actually being a location you can visit in your off hours too ;)

The club as with the office will be a long term thing, so it'll get updates here and there. If I have my way you'll be able to bring almost every future character into both for their own set of content for it. More immediately I want to turn the club into a place you can go for more than just work. As well as more Mel and Jen content.

Regarding repeating the events, this is kind of down to play style. In the latest update you actually shouldn't need to repeat anything (except the new dress event), if you do everything that's available it should provide all the love/lewd you need (even without using the old links). Unfortunately this is also a pacing issue. One that's not easy to fix without forcing more constraints on players. I'd rather just let people play freely. That said I'll do what I can to help the pacing. Perhaps a checklist of sort might be useful to point you towards any content you are missing out on, or have yet to take advantage of?

Thank you very much for the feedback and I'm glad you enjoyed it!
I personally prefer the more outright cheating aspect, might be because I find it easier to switch my POV of characters, so it makes it far easier to feel like you are stealing a girl from some poor dude. Seems to be a me thing, looking around the forum though, not getting massively attached while still being able to enjoy media of various kinds. Either way, I respect and understand your decision and thanks for being upfront about it.

I did notice that some stuff changed when I increased morale in the strip club but it weren't so much morale specifically it was the stats in general and also in the Office as well. You did seem to kind of answer that it would be expanded upon. I look forward to see how it turns out as one of my favorite genres are management and strategy games and there aren't a lot of porn games that do that.

A checklist would be great, I'm not against repeatable content as such though, just when you make it, I prefer it to be shorter and more snappy. Like, the blowjob scene in the kitchen is good but maybe more gifs instead of text, a "quick blowjob" action may be the way to go if you want to add stuff like this. I don't think it's super important though if you work on general pacing. It's more for fun.

Keep up the good work.
 
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MakinWaves

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I’ve been playing for quite a bit. There seems to be no way to go past clothing level 6 any way past this?
Either need to level up her love/lewd level or unlock the next outfit via reward points after buying it (kitchen -> ask for reward)

If you have a objective in the goal screen saying you need 6 but can't get it, it might be bugged. I'd need your save file or more info before I could say for sure though.

I personally prefer the more outright cheating aspect, might be because I find it easier to switch my POV of characters, so it makes it far easier to feel like you are stealing a girl from some poor dude. Seems to be a me thing, looking around the forum though, not getting massively attached while still being able to enjoy media of various kinds. Either way, I respect and understand your decision and thanks for being upfront about it.

I did notice that some stuff changed when I increased morale in the strip club but it weren't so much morale specifically it was the stats in general and also in the Office as well. You did seem to kind of answer that it would be expanded upon. I look forward to see how it turns out as one of my favorite genres are management and strategy games and there aren't a lot of porn games that do that.

A checklist would be great, I'm not against repeatable content as such though, just when you make it, I prefer it to be shorter and more snappy. Like, the blowjob scene in the kitchen is good but maybe more gifs instead of text, a "quick blowjob" action may be the way to go if you want to add stuff like this. I don't think it's super important though if you work on general pacing. It's more for fun.

Keep up the good work.
I will say that the cheating aspect might make an appearance as the MC stealing some other guys wife. Bit of a ways off yet though.
 

MilfyAces

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Make sure you unlock the outfit by asking for a reward (it will be free). Then the dress events are available in the kitchen like normal. There's no yoga/sleep outfit at that stage, just the everyday wear dress. It has two options, so you have to do it 3 times and just repeat one of them. I wanted to add one more sub or another means of getting the last part of the progress but didn't have time.

Did it work for you before? I've experienced some weird behavior with the mp4s myself but nothing as bad as you are saying. I'll try to look into it. I've seen some say that incognito mode can mess with video playback, so if you're using that I'd suggest trying normal mode. Failing that, giving another browser a go might be a good idea. Pressing f12 and looking in the browser console may also reveal any errors your experiencing.
Yeah, it was perfect in a previous versions, that's why I'm so surprised...
I don't even know what's the incognito mode:))
What kind of errors I should look in a console? Any suggestions?
 

MakinWaves

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Yeah, it was perfect in a previous versions, that's why I'm so surprised...
I don't even know what's the incognito mode:))
What kind of errors I should look in a console? Any suggestions?
Only other thing I can think of is that I started compressing the mp4s by changing their bitrate. I'm not sure how that would cause what you are experiencing though. Does it just happen with the new content? Or does it affect everything?

Error wise they should be pretty obvious, so if you aren't seeing anything then there probably aren't any. Another possible thing to try would be to move the game folder onto another drive if you have one.
 

MilfyAces

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Only other thing I can think of is that I started compressing the mp4s by changing their bitrate. I'm not sure how that would cause what you are experiencing though. Does it just happen with the new content? Or does it affect everything?

Error wise they should be pretty obvious, so if you aren't seeing anything then there probably aren't any. Another possible thing to try would be to move the game folder onto another drive if you have one.
Yes, I moved game to another drive and tried on Firefox and I guess everything is fine. I was fine then I tried once, atm I can't check it, because I cought a fucking corona... Can't get up from the bed atm...
 

Family Fun

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I can't figure out how to trigger the strip club scene or find the new character.
I've complete the love and lewd routes and gone through another week trying to raise the extra stats and both are at 1/0/100.

what do I need to do?
 

MakinWaves

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Yes, I moved game to another drive and tried on Firefox and I guess everything is fine. I was fine then I tried once, atm I can't check it, because I cought a fucking corona... Can't get up from the bed atm...
Shit, get well soon friend!
I can't figure out how to trigger the strip club scene or find the new character.
I've complete the love and lewd routes and gone through another week trying to raise the extra stats and both are at 1/0/100.

what do I need to do?
Extra stats don't do anything at the moment. I'll assume you are on the office job path? You need to be the manager and reach 45 department performance, you'll get an event that offers you the chance to work at the strip club also.
 

Family Fun

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Extra stats don't do anything at the moment. I'll assume you are on the office job path? You need to be the manager and reach 45 department performance, you'll get an event that offers you the chance to work at the strip club also.
Thank you, that worked!

Is it necessary to be on the Lewd path or to have Jen doing porn in order to get the strip club path?
 

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Bug R3 or Cheat
When you have a reward point.
Choose your reward, go up and choose again and again so you can max. up.
Works aso when you chat about Strip Club & Bar

It is not possible to quit the job he tells only that you must quit your job.

Ask for a reward it looks you lose only one star when you choose it - you loose two

Love Goal
A Special Evening - 4pm-7pm (correct, not 8pm-11pm)

Photo Gallery
Mel Stage 0 Text 2, this must be 3 the "2" is a line under it, typo bug
 
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Wisthep

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Firstly just a quick note to say nice job on the update chief, especially the taking control of finances event (which pretty much the earlier intervene event I liked dressed up in lovely new finery). Hope there are expansion plans for this idea. Also the extra stats thing is interesting too, it'll be fun to see the future plans for that.

I didn't get any bugs (although at this point I've only done one playthrough) but I did notice a couple of text mistakes from earlier updates that I forgot to report, one of which might hamper new players.

- When you get the confirmation message from Dereck that Jen can model for him the text says he will have her in on Mondays and Wednesdays instead of Saturdays and Sundays. Not a problem for those of us who know the early routes but might cause a newbie to think they've had a bug or missed something out if they're checking for events on those days.

- When you peak in the shower between 8:00 and 8:20 during the early events of the second update Jen will always refer to you as John no matter what you named your character. Hardly game breaking but its there, for now I'll just call my character John ;)

Thank you, that worked!

Is it necessary to be on the Lewd path or to have Jen doing porn in order to get the strip club path?
If you mean getting to the strip club earlier and without having the office job that is the very first decision you make at the start of the game. You can either send off the application to the corporation or wait until 10:00, catch a bus to town and go see Jason who will offer you another job which eventually leads to the club. This decision is mutually exclusive and cannot be changed once made. For Jen to be doing porn you need lewd level 2 and clothing level 6 anyway but pretty sure it has no bearing on the path you have chosen, in my playthrough I was on both routes and working at the strip club popped as planned once I reached 45 performance at the office.
 
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MakinWaves

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Where to find the car dealer?
It should appear as a nav link in town, assuming you were prompted by an event to go there.
Thank you, that worked!

Is it necessary to be on the Lewd path or to have Jen doing porn in order to get the strip club path?
You need lewd level 2 (embracing) at least to offer the job to her, don't need to do anything with modelling.

Sorry i should have mentioned that aswell, but I totally forgot there was a check like that. It's hard to keep track of all this stuff even for me!
Bug R3 or Cheat
When you have a reward point.
Choose your reward, go up and choose again and again so you can max. up.
Works aso when you chat about Strip Club & Bar

It is not possible to quit the job he tells only that you must quit your job.

Ask for a reward it looks you lose only one star when you choose it - you loose two

Love Goal
A Special Evening - 4pm-7pm (correct, not 8pm-11pm)

Photo Gallery
Mel Stage 0 Text 2, this must be 3 the "2" is a line under it, typo bug
Thanks for reporting these! Should hopefully be fixed for the next release.
Firstly just a quick note to say nice job on the update chief, especially the taking control of finances event (which pretty much the earlier intervene event I liked dressed up in lovely new finery). Hope there are expansion plans for this idea. Also the extra stats thing is interesting too, it'll be fun to see the future plans for that.

I didn't get any bugs (although at this point I've only done one playthrough) but I did notice a couple of text mistakes from earlier updates that I forgot to report, one of which might hamper new players.

- When you get the confirmation message from Dereck that Jen can model for him the text says he will have her in on Mondays and Wednesdays instead of Saturdays and Sundays. Not a problem for those of us who know the early routes but might cause a newbie to think they've had a bug or missed something out if they're checking for events on those days.

- When you peak in the shower between 8:00 and 8:20 during the early events of the second update Jen will always refer to you as John no matter what you named your character. Hardly game breaking but its there, for now I'll just call my character John ;)



If you mean getting to the strip club earlier and without having the office job that is the very first decision you make at the start of the game. You can either send off the application to the corporation or wait until 10:00, catch a bus to town and go see Jason who will offer you another job which eventually leads to the club. This decision is mutually exclusive and cannot be changed once made. For Jen to be doing porn you need lewd level 2 and clothing level 6 anyway but pretty sure it has no bearing on the path you have chosen, in my playthrough I was on both routes and working at the strip club popped as planned once I reached 45 performance at the office.
Thanks for reporting these little things! Glad you enjoyed the finance control thing. It'll definitely play a key role in training up her new stats. Beyond that we'll have to see what opportunities arise.
 
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Ozzy763

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I have a notification above the Time Skip “New Message!” How do I view these? I checked the phone and there is nothing there.
 

MakinWaves

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I have a notification above the Time Skip “New Message!” How do I view these? I checked the phone and there is nothing there.
If there's nothing in the phone then it's a bug. Could you explain what happened when this occurred? It should fix itself once you get and view another message.
 

Ozzy763

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If there's nothing in the phone then it's a bug. Could you explain what happened when this occurred? It should fix itself once you get and view another message.
Actually disregard that! Didn’t realize I had to click on “Messages” while looking at the phone.
 
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Wisthep

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Hey MW, just finished a Jason route run and I've got another tiny bug/exploit for you:

- During one of the random kitchen dialogues with Jen she asks you about what kind of place the strip club is (I forget its name) and you can respond with "its just a club" on the love route or alternatively tell her flatly that "its a strip club". You can click to answer multiple times and each time it replenishes your energy as if you left the conversation (+30 energy I believe) so in essence you can cheat your way back to 100/100 each time it appears.

Not an essential fix for sure but also one I'm sure you didn't intend. Pretty clear other than that. You do good work.
 
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MakinWaves

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Hey MW, just finished a Jason route run and I've got another tiny bug/exploit for you:

- During one of the random kitchen dialogues with Jen she asks you about what kind of place the strip club is (I forget its name) and you can respond with "its just a club" on the love route or alternatively tell her flatly that "its a strip club". You can click to answer multiple times and each time it replenishes your energy as if you left the conversation (+30 energy I believe) so in essence you can cheat your way back to 100/100 each time it appears.

Not an essential fix for sure but also one I'm sure you didn't intend. Pretty clear other than that. You do good work.
Thanks for reporting it! Should be a simple fix for the next update
 

MakinWaves

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Info about next Releases

Just thought I'd make a quick post about what's going on with the next couple releases. I already talked about this on patreon so if you've seen that stuff there's nothing new here. This is a trimmed downed version for those of you who don't have access.

Release 3.5 & 4

I want to avoid the long wait that occurred for Release 3. Basically what happened was with the stripclubs inclusion on top of the usual workload, it just took longer to get done. The next release has another system of similar size, so if I do the usual we’re looking at another long wait.

Instead, it’s being split, there will be a R3.5, and a R4.

3.5

- Jen stuff that I didn’t have time to finish for 3, some expansions to the systems that were introduced and new work events.

- Mel story and new content, along with ui stuff

- Misc stuff/further development of both strip club and office manager jobs (I’ll just put this here, but it’s likely these will be split up across the releases, but it just depends)

- Stripclub → office multi job

4.0

-
Jen story stuff

- A nice new system

- Hopefully the intro for a new character

This is the major stuff at least, smaller things will be worked into either. These updates will be smaller than the usual, but it should mean that they’re out faster. I’m hoping to have 3.5 out for mid may, so a bit over a month from R3. R4 will follow some time after that, depending on how much needs to get done.
 

HakashiKatake

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Info about next Releases

Just thought I'd make a quick post about what's going on with the next couple releases. I already talked about this on patreon so if you've seen that stuff there's nothing new here. This is a trimmed downed version for those of you who don't have access.

Release 3.5 & 4

I want to avoid the long wait that occurred for Release 3. Basically what happened was with the stripclubs inclusion on top of the usual workload, it just took longer to get done. The next release has another system of similar size, so if I do the usual we’re looking at another long wait.

Instead, it’s being split, there will be a R3.5, and a R4.

3.5

- Jen stuff that I didn’t have time to finish for 3, some expansions to the systems that were introduced and new work events.

- Mel story and new content, along with ui stuff

- Misc stuff/further development of both strip club and office manager jobs (I’ll just put this here, but it’s likely these will be split up across the releases, but it just depends)

- Stripclub → office multi job

4.0

-
Jen story stuff

- A nice new system

- Hopefully the intro for a new character

This is the major stuff at least, smaller things will be worked into either. These updates will be smaller than the usual, but it should mean that they’re out faster. I’m hoping to have 3.5 out for mid may, so a bit over a month from R3. R4 will follow some time after that, depending on how much needs to get done.
Take your time. we will wait for a good game rather than playing a bad game early.
 
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