VN Ren'Py LuckyGame [v0.08] [SaraGames]

[AceMan07]

Who is this actress anyone knows it?

 

[hoshimota]

What... in the unholy fuck did I just see, is this like watercolor AI generated porn?

 

[Piratefishes]

What... in the unholy fuck did I just see, is this like watercolor AI generated porn?

Yeah the watercolour filter is horrible.

 

[the_great_cornholio]

Who is this actress anyone knows it?

Looks like Savannah Bond

 

[Beavis & Butthead]

Why does this have a real porn tag? It looks like decent AI to me, but not good enough it can pass for photorealism.

 

[Beavis & Butthead]

If you’re using real porn make an html game.

fuck html, that's almost as bad as RPGM, Renpy or nothing no matter what the artwork is.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Hello.
I wasn't expecting to open a discussion just by sharing my disagreement. And I still can't agree with everything you said.

As someone who has worked retail, sales, and directly under a pair of business owners, what you agree with isn't relevant. Here's why.

Not always. You can sell to many at a low price or to only one at a high price.

That's not how it works at all. Wal-Mart, Costco, Giant Tiger have a model that operates under the purchasing of bulk quantities for mass re-distribution. Their model functions by buying massive quantities from businesses and selling as a distributor. The reason why they can afford to "sell low" is because 1) they expect to make a profit off selling more for less, and b) because they optimize for consumer preference over what saves more trees. Nobody thinks about how many Brazilian aboriginals are displaced when they pick up a 4-pack of Dove soap for $10 because the amount of plastic used to hold those 4 boxes together is a minor inconvenience.

Also, what is the majority you are talking about? The majority that express itself? The one that has money? The one that has power? The one that is ok with how it is and says nothing?
Are we supposed to do everything like the 2 countries with more than a billion of citizens?

A "majority" is often a general population of people who tend to have the greatest sway based on a number of socioeconomic factors. You're the retard whining that the laws don't let you steal when you are broke because the majority tend to have money to spend on things they need/want. Yes, that is how the system works. That is also how it works in sales. If a majority of customers are dissatisfied with something, the minority have no relevance. A business has two options when the majority balk. They can a) pull a WOTC and disregard all complaints, or b) listen to their consumers and make the changes that people are most asking for. Most competent businesspersons chase the dollar, not the stupid.

What do you mean by successful too? Are gay games, text based only games and more generally ugly arts, annoying films, gore mangas that works just exceptions?

Those are niche, and within those niches are cultivated fanbases that will chomp at the bit for more content. They are not profitable, however. The reason why we don't have more gory manga, more "annoying" films, more ugly art is that the niche audience isn't substantial enough to drive a profit. I loved Reboot as a series growing up and as an adult I can see the charm that pulled me in. But, as a property at the time of its final cancellation, it just never made enough to warrant a proper conclusion. As a lifelong fan, I can accept that most businesses (and especially the IP owners) can't take the risk of satisfying a few hundred people when a lot of their current projects will generate more revenue. It's the difference between a business keeping its doors open and one that closes after a year.

Yes, even if he chooses to follow what people wants, particularly on a pirate site with a majority who wants to have everything for free.

This logic never tracks because it disregards the multitude of projects on this very pirate site that have successful patreon pages that earn thousands of dollars a month. Most of those patrons come from this site, btw. So, not only are you wrong, but stupid.

No. The world doesn't always work like that. Even more in a world becoming more and more individualistic.

That's... actually how an individualistic world would work. Human's are social creatures by nature. Biology prevents us from being separate from our own species for long periods of time. You might find the odd corner case, but those aren't anomalies or anything. Circumstance makes weird animals. Anyways, an individualistic society would still be affected by social influence. Someone with a more "individual" perspective would simply have the perception of their own self-importance and influence affected by a lack of proper social development. It doesn't mean they aren't affected by what others say/think. It just means they're less self-aware because they aren't conditioned to consider how others would react.
Also, Ayn Rand was a literal shithead and wholly clowned on for her concept of "individualism." Individualist societies often collapse under their own hubris because the majority while still affected by their peers seldom unify fully under an idea.

Since when a salesperson stopped being human? They have their own flaws like everyone.
He can do that but he can also force the customer to buy something he isn't even interested in.
That has nothing to do with believing in a product. He could even sell dog shit if he is that good. He is just there to do his job and that job depends on his experience, personnality, mood, the firm, the product, the brand, the customer and many other factors. There's not one truth but many.

What is the merit of your point about salespersons being Human? Nobody argued that. You're fighting ghosts, retard.
If the developer doesn't want to appeal to a broader audience, then that's their choice. It's also their choice to never make a dime and to bitch about being bullied when they chose to be a snarky twat to people who gave feedback. Imagine that.
The developer isn't good enough to sell water to a thirsty man. Come off it with that clownish amount of stupid. If someone believes in their product despite feedback, then they're not competent or smart. They're an idiot selling something that could make money if they listened. People don't buy what they don't like. You want to know why you're broke and Jeff Bezos is rich? Bezos found something people want, adjusted his business over time to demand, and has been ruthless as fuck about generating a profit even at the comfort and health of his own employees.
A financially-successful business has no time to play stupid games of personal preference when that preference runs against what people want. Bezos speaks a lot of consumer-friendly "corporate speak" but means maybe the first sentence each time. It's words that make our lizard brains release that dopamine so we don't use our critical thinking portion to recognize when we're being played like a fiddle. A successful businessperson will know how to trigger those dopamine shots. An idiot will do as the dev and you do.

By the way, for a better comprehension, what do you mean by rainbow land? It's always a mystery how others are using expressions that don't make sense for me. Are you refering to "The Wizard of Oz"?

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Thank you for your support! Let's remember Naruto ! At the beginning of his journey, everyone hated him too, and look where it led him. My first game on this site had a rating of 1.5, and the second one already has 3. This game could be a springboard for the next one.

Your chosen art style is ugly an unappealing, and this is coming from a guy who fapped to some fucked-up stuff. Also, way to fundamentally misunderstand the actual plot of Naruto. Everyone feared Naruto because he had a demon fox inside of him. People treated him like crap out of fear of what might happen at a given moment, which when we get to Gaara, we do see what happens when a child is rejected and neglected repeatedly. He snaps and someone ends up dead. Again and again.
Naruto became adored and eventually Hokage because he proved himself as both one of the village's own and its protector rather than destroyer. Even his hijinks as a kid were largely disregarded as childish malarkey rather than anything overtly malicious. You can't compare yourself to Naruto, either. Naruto accepted feedback and improved from it. You just casually disregard it and flippantly insult those who give it.
If your games are getting low ratings, you're not going to be successful. People are sending a clear message. They don't like what you are offering, and would rather you grow up or fuck off.

That was a very funny comment from someone who's complaining about the free game he just downloaded for free and played for free.

And you're breathing air for free, expressing an opinion for free, and looking stupid for free. If something being "free" invalidated any opinion whatsoever, then our species would have been extinct before we figured out how to make pointy sticks.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Why does this have a real porn tag? It looks like decent AI to me, but not good enough it can pass for photorealism.

It's real porn with a shitty filter. Why? Because the dev thinks getting a 3 on one of their games is proof that they are gaining traction rather than bots and brainlets boosting their garbage with zero interest in actual engagement.

fuck html, that's almost as bad as RPGM, Renpy or nothing no matter what the artwork is.

RPGM is the easiest engine to work with and has the lowest bar for entry. I would say there are a good amount of Japanese h-games that get by on their art alone, but you also can't really argue that it's "bad" so much as it has inspired a ton of western devs to be lazy about their design.

Ren'py is mostly a visual novel platform. What it can be manipulated to do outside of that is impressive. Funnily enough, a lot of its core design seems derived from an old program called RAGS which while buggy and a bit... lacking, did lay some decent foundation for future programs. RAGS stumbled awkwardly so Ren'py could walk.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

I finally tried the last few updates and it's really taking shape. I'm just wondering how each path are coexisting/existing together because some choices leads to different ones simultaneously.

There's an issue though : if we never met Billy, we shouldn't have the option to work for him. But the problem is bigger : if we never worked for him, we shoudn't have sex at the nightclub the first time instead of a blowjob. Also, we receive the 2nd package whether we work with Timmy at the warehouse or meet Billy (that choice : ). So be careful with the continuity.

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The condescending tone wasn't necessary. I was just trying to have a normal discussion with my experience and knowledge. But that doesn't seem possible with you.
There was no need to insult me either.
I'll answer some points though.

That's not how it works at all. Wal-Mart, Costco, Giant Tiger have a model that operates under the purchasing of bulk quantities for mass re-distribution. Their model functions by buying massive quantities from businesses and selling as a distributor. The reason why they can afford to "sell low" is because 1) they expect to make a profit off selling more for less, and b) because they optimize for consumer preference over what saves more trees. Nobody thinks about how many Brazilian aboriginals are displaced when they pick up a 4-pack of Dove soap for $10 because the amount of plastic used to hold those 4 boxes together is a minor inconvenience.

That's from a capitalistic point of view. That doesn't work for rare ingredients either.
You can install many faucets or make a bathroom completely. It's not a matter of quantity but of gain/profit.
Many people think about the consequences even though they aren't able to do anything about it.

A "majority" is often a general population of people who tend to have the greatest sway based on a number of socioeconomic factors. You're the retard whining that the laws don't let you steal when you are broke because the majority tend to have money to spend on things they need/want. Yes, that is how the system works. That is also how it works in sales. If a majority of customers are dissatisfied with something, the minority have no relevance. A business has two options when the majority balk. They can a) pull a WOTC and disregard all complaints, or b) listen to their consumers and make the changes that people are most asking for. Most competent businesspersons chase the dollar, not the stupid.

If that was always true, there would never be any scandal.
Only money can make them do some changes.
And that only works in democracy, not in autocracy or dictatorship.

Those are niche, and within those niches are cultivated fanbases that will chomp at the bit for more content. They are not profitable, however. The reason why we don't have more gory manga, more "annoying" films, more ugly art is that the niche audience isn't substantial enough to drive a profit. I loved Reboot as a series growing up and as an adult I can see the charm that pulled me in. But, as a property at the time of its final cancellation, it just never made enough to warrant a proper conclusion. As a lifelong fan, I can accept that most businesses (and especially the IP owners) can't take the risk of satisfying a few hundred people when a lot of their current projects will generate more revenue. It's the difference between a business keeping its doors open and one that closes after a year.

Then, I'm wondering how Saw, Resident Evil, Attack on Titan, Berserck, Grand Theft Auto could be successful if they were niche.
Disney's films are more ugly than Ghibli ones but they are still successful.
Also, everything artistic is pretty subjective.

This logic never tracks because it disregards the multitude of projects on this very pirate site that have successful patreon pages that earn thousands of dollars a month. Most of those patrons come from this site, btw. So, not only are you wrong, but stupid.

What you're saying is strange. There are only a few that are successful.
I've often seen dev changing content to please most people not being rewarded afterward. So you'll excuse me for not believing what you say.

That's... actually how an individualistic world would work. Human's are social creatures by nature. Biology prevents us from being separate from our own species for long periods of time. You might find the odd corner case, but those aren't anomalies or anything. Circumstance makes weird animals. Anyways, an individualistic society would still be affected by social influence. Someone with a more "individual" perspective would simply have the perception of their own self-importance and influence affected by a lack of proper social development. It doesn't mean they aren't affected by what others say/think. It just means they're less self-aware because they aren't conditioned to consider how others would react.
Also, Ayn Rand was a literal shithead and wholly clowned on for her concept of "individualism." Individualist societies often collapse under their own hubris because the majority while still affected by their peers seldom unify fully under an idea.

So that's why democracies are collapsing then.
But yeah, most people only care about themselves nowadays, leading to more violence, less trust, different thinkings and beliefs. The consequences don't matter anymore as long as they can do what they want.

What is the merit of your point about salespersons being Human? Nobody argued that. You're fighting ghosts, retard.
If the developer doesn't want to appeal to a broader audience, then that's their choice. It's also their choice to never make a dime and to bitch about being bullied when they chose to be a snarky twat to people who gave feedback. Imagine that.
The developer isn't good enough to sell water to a thirsty man. Come off it with that clownish amount of stupid. If someone believes in their product despite feedback, then they're not competent or smart. They're an idiot selling something that could make money if they listened. People don't buy what they don't like. You want to know why you're broke and Jeff Bezos is rich? Bezos found something people want, adjusted his business over time to demand, and has been ruthless as fuck about generating a profit even at the comfort and health of his own employees.
A financially-successful business has no time to play stupid games of personal preference when that preference runs against what people want. Bezos speaks a lot of consumer-friendly "corporate speak" but means maybe the first sentence each time. It's words that make our lizard brains release that dopamine so we don't use our critical thinking portion to recognize when we're being played like a fiddle. A successful businessperson will know how to trigger those dopamine shots. An idiot will do as the dev and you do.

While what you say is true, it has nothing to do with what I was trying to say.
Yes, they are human, not robot. They won't always do everything perfectly.
You can't compare Jeff Bezos with a salesperson of the little store of the neighbourhood.

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Why did I expect something useful from Mr all high and mighty...

Good continuation.

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

The condescending tone wasn't necessary. I was just trying to have a normal discussion with my experience and knowledge. But that doesn't seem possible with you.
There was no need to insult me either.
I'll answer some points though.

If your experience and knowledge aren't significant enough to substantiate any kind of worthwhile contribution, then you will be found lacking and told to further educate yourself, and that's the kindest anyone will ever offer you. At worst, you'll be called a complete moron and mocked cruelly. Also, if respectful discourse worked with people like you, then insults wouldn't exist.

That's from a capitalistic point of view. That doesn't work for rare ingredients either.
You can install many faucets or make a bathroom completely. It's not a matter of quantity but of gain/profit.
Many people think about the consequences even though they aren't able to do anything about it.

You do realize that capitalism makes up like... 99% of the world, right? Even countries that don't completely subscribe to every aspect of it still interact with it on a daily basis. There isn't a "point of view" to debate. That's how the world is. If you want to argue semantics, start educating yourself on how the world actually works.
Your metaphor doesn't merit acknowledgement. It's terrible for several reasons, the most prominent being it makes zero sense why someone would install multiple faucets rather than something like a half-bath or even a full sink. Also, no, nobody thinks about the consequences. Look at the Mappa controversy from a few months ago. Or, the fact that EA and Nestle still exist. People only care for five minutes before they move on.

If that was always true, there would never be any scandal.
Only money can make them do some changes.
And that only works in democracy, not in autocracy or dictatorship.

It works if enough people oppose something and can influence the forces that are running something. Also, controversies don't necessarily merit a reaction. Again, unless it's an exceptionally egregious event, people will move on. Most people only want things that appeal to them. They don't care about starving African's or indigenous tribes being displaced or the rampant pollution that is making our planet less and less habitable for our species.

Then, I'm wondering how Saw, Resident Evil, Attack on Titan, Berserck, Grand Theft Auto could be successful if they were niche.
Disney's films are more ugly than Ghibli ones but they are still successful.
Also, everything artistic is pretty subjective.

Because you're a complete idiot. No, seriously. Of those, examples, only Berserk merits mention and even that is a hard sell because in Japan it was big enough to survive multiple author hiatus's and still sold like hotcakes. It stuck around in their monthly seinen magazine which if you know anything about how the manga industry works (you clearly don't), you don't get a 10+ year guaranteed spot with their Jump magazines if your series ever loses relevance.
To elaborate, AoT and Saw were pushed advertising-wise. They might have started out niche, but AoT was already pushing numbers before anything came to the west. Saw sold itself on its premise alone, which for most people, was fairly unique. Most people don't know what Battle Royale or Harcore Henry are, years later.
Resident Evil 1 sold 7 million copies which at the time, was impressive. GTA 1 sold 3 million copies which, while not as impressive, wasn't anywhere near "niche" by any metric, either. None of your examples were ever anything approaching niche, and you're an idiot for thinking they ever were.
I don't get the reason why you mentioned Disney and Ghibli. Both are pretty mainstream. And yes, art is subjective. If a majority of people say something is crap, guess what? That thing is crap. It doesn't matter if you think otherwise. Reality is, the majority dictate what is and isn't art.

What you're saying is strange. There are only a few that are successful.
I've often seen dev changing content to please most people not being rewarded afterward. So you'll excuse me for not believing what you say.

I would love for you to list devs on here alone who actively changed their vision when people spoke up, and lost supporters as a result. Most of the time, it's devs who milk their audience or lack focus who get kicked to the curb, and that's because people only have so much tolerance for screwing around and a lack of progress before they pull back their support.
And no, there are quite a lot of devs whose content are on these forums who are fairly successful. I can name 10.

1) Devil's Office (Shrift, Shrift 2)
2) ToroToro Resistance (Monster Girl Quest 1-3, Monster Girl Quest: Paradox 1 and 2)
3) Threshold (Monster Girl Dreams)
4) Olympus (Succubus Covenant)
5) 62studio (Lust Grimm, Lust Grimm Again, Succubus Puttel, Succubus in Wonderland)
6) Parodos (Goblin Layer)
7) SQDT (Succubus Academia)
8) Leaf Colony (SEQUEL series)
9) Minwa (Three Charms series)
10) Irojikake Matome (Succubus Senki)

All of those devs did broad appeal content which, while a few of those aren't exactly to my personal preference, are good enough that a lot of people enjoy them. Largely because what they offer isn't offensive to the eyes.

So that's why democracies are collapsing then.
But yeah, most people only care about themselves nowadays, leading to more violence, less trust, different thinkings and beliefs. The consequences don't matter anymore as long as they can do what they want.

I'd hardly say any democracy is "collapsing" much less under strain from anything external or otherwise. At worst, the social breakdown that is occuring is cyclical. Technology advances a few generations ahead of what most people are able to adapt to. People get stupid with personal information and their interactions. Society goes throw a period of adjustment where excessively stupid people get weeded out as not having anything of merit to offer while competent people are sought after. Nothing is going to collapse.
I won't bother with the second part.

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While what you say is true, it has nothing to do with what I was trying to say.
Yes, they are human, not robot. They won't always do everything perfectly.
You can't compare Jeff Bezos with a salesperson of the little store of the neighbourhood.

A businessperson regardless of their tax bracket is going to do what benefits their business. If the corner store is losing money, they have to adjust either their prices, their product availability, or both. If it's not profitable to keep something in stock, they have to take it off the shelves. If people are discontented with their prices, they either adjust or risk losing a substantial number of customers.
The only difference between Bezos and a local convenience store is their tax bracket. That's it.

Why did I expect something useful from Mr all high and mighty...
Good continuation.

I'm not even the guy you originally replied to. I saw you being a complete idiot and spouting off on things you clearly know nothing about. I also remember being as uneducated and utterly vapid as you are now, and I was 13 at that time. Yes, I was a minor. You are either a minor as well, or someone who has never held a job, never had to handle currency, never even been outside your own house. Here's a reality check: the world is exactly as I have described it. You will not find another adult on this planet who believes the things you do, or who will take you seriously for as long as you retain these delusions of yours.

We've also steered off-course from the thread topic itself, so I'll leave it with this. No, I don't intend to reply to anymore of your worthless points. You would need to pay myself and others to humor you at this point, and there is no program or tax system that could ever determine how much back-pay you owe the rest of the world for tolerating your very existence daily. Yes, I am saying you've actually managed to acrue debt by being so stupid.

 

[vopsorso]

Above, there is so much text that it will suffice for several updates.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

If your experience and knowledge aren't significant enough to substantiate any kind of worthwhile contribution, then you will be found lacking and told to further educate yourself, and that's the kindest anyone will ever offer you. At worst, you'll be called a complete moron and mocked cruelly. Also, if respectful discourse worked with people like you, then insults wouldn't exist.

So only knowledgeable people can have discussions. Your way of thinking is really sad.

I won't bother with the rest. You only say : there's a majority, so it's the only truth. That's not how things work in everyday life. Everybody is supposed to adapt to the situation they encounter.

Good continuation.

 

[vopsorso]

Everybody is supposed to adapt to the situation they encounter.

Good phrase, and by the way, I still think about changing the visual content of the game, trying to make it better, but it will take a lot of time... I can't promise anything, but I will definitely try. <3

 

[NinjaNamedBob]

Above, there is so much text that it will suffice for several updates.

See, this is why people rate your games so low. Your attitude leaves much to be desired. I mean, it's one of the reasons. I look at other games made in html and such and really, your peers who use real porn are more successful for a reason. Hell, I see devs who react with the nuclear option to criticism who are still more successful. Something tells me if they're doing better overall, it's a combination of shittyness from you that is undermining your projects. Hm... methinks I might be onto something.

So only knowledgeable people can have discussions. Your way of thinking is really sad.

Anyone can have a discussion. Generally, though, it's universally agreed upon that if you don't know what you're talking about (you clearly don't) then you shouldn't contribute. My "way of thinking" isn't sad. It's highly appreciated by others because I avoid frustrating them and derailing the conversation with stupid statements that have no basis in reality. You should try it.

I won't bother with the rest. You only say : there's a majority, so it's the only truth. That's not how things work in everyday life. Everybody is supposed to adapt to the situation they encounter.

Way to read none of what I said. So, you also displayed either a concerning level of illiteracy, or an unwillingness to debate in good faith. If being an ignorant cunt were a punishable offense, your ass would have been ejected and IP banned long ago. Let that one marinate, bud.

Good phrase, and by the way, I still think about changing the visual content of the game, trying to make it better, but it will take a lot of time... I can't promise anything, but I will definitely try. <3

You already presumably possess the images on your harddrive. All you did was add a shitty filter and insist that it was a style choice when anyone with two braincells can tell it's the dumbest, most incomprehensibly pointless attempt to avoid getting sued out the ass. Buddy, you did not alter the likenesses. You didn't even tint the skins or add cat ears in photoshop. You took existing images from known porn content, added a crappy filter, and then claimed it was "original." You're as original as this backpack:

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Actually, I take that back. At least the designer of that backpack put in the effort to add details to Sonic and slap 2 completely separate names onto it.

 

[Oliz82]

Hello.

Anyone can have a discussion. Generally, though, it's universally agreed upon that if you don't know what you're talking about (you clearly don't) then you shouldn't contribute. My "way of thinking" isn't sad. It's highly appreciated by others because I avoid frustrating them and derailing the conversation with stupid statements that have no basis in reality. You should try it.

If I go with that, there would be no more discussion since it'll need each party to know everything of the same subject at the same time.

Way to read none of what I said. So, you also displayed either a concerning level of illiteracy, or an unwillingness to debate in good faith. If being an ignorant cunt were a punishable offense, your ass would have been ejected and IP banned long ago. Let that one marinate, bud.

I just wanted to stop a discussion that had no pedagogy, hence no more meaning.
If I am a cunt then you are a jerk. I'm expecting to be corrected in a civil manner, not buried and insulted. You shouldn't hurt people. It's something I'll never understand. There should have been a better way to convey what you had to say.

Wth this, I don't think there's more to add.

Good continuation.

 

[Saint Blackmoor]

You play as a young guy who has to leave his comfort zone and go to another city to study at college.
The main character is dragged out of his room, where he can play video games and eat chips all day, and is thrown into adulthood.
You have different ways of development, and the adventures that await you depend only on you.
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I slightly improved the overview. Use it if you like.

Good luck, and thanks for sharing.

 

[vopsorso]

You play as a young guy who has to leave his comfort zone and go to another city to study at college.
The main character is dragged out of his room, where he can play video games and eat chips all day, and is thrown into adulthood.
You have different ways of development, and the adventures that await you depend only on you.
​

I slightly improved the overview. Use it if you like.

Good luck, and thanks for sharing.

Thank you!

 

[Poisonous]

Wow! A wall of text from two people who want to appear both tough and intelligent when they could have simply used a "F*** You!" and "F*** You Too!" to achieve the same result. I admire the effort. Good job guys!

 

[swiver]

Looks aalright_ maybe help the void Blurred Lines left behind...

Looks like Savannah Bond

I recognize her and fugly Adrianna and Karma (looking better here so looking forward to being to enjoy their good hard scenes), but who's miss pigtails?!

 

[Tyrranus]

why in the ever loving fuck did the dev put that shitty ass filter on everything?!?!?! interest lost