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odbpm

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atleast the dev is upfront with the ntr and gay, but any scenes thats with another dick thats not the mc is a ignore for me.
i recommend the dev to consider making ntr,gay,futa/trans,prostitution,sissification,multiple penetration 100% avoidable or give the player the ability to turn off these fetishes, but i can also see why not do that since alot fail to not make it bleed through the story.

also i see that rape tag is already there, wanna ask if its the mc doing it or is it a future li being raped.
 

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also i see that rape tag is already there, wanna ask if its the mc doing it or is it a future li being raped.
At the moment, the MC steps in to prevent the rape(s). Given that the MC is taking the hero role, I would say it is unlikely to be different going forward.
 
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I get lost in what is considered NTR or not. There will be scenes where romantic interests end up in sexual situations with other characters or beings.
Then you'd have sharing, and given what you say after Forced NTR.

Easy avoid/skip.

For those searching thread that didn't read dev notes, yes this will have NTR/Netorare, and/or swinging and such. So not a game you should play since you're searching the thread for it.
 

VivelaFrance

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Could be fun. Whenever i see a banner with lots and lots of characters I get weary of a lack of focus and long, unfinished dev times though.
 

ramhingo

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Hello everyone.
I would like to clear up this doubt by asking the developer:
I can't understand if some characters and locations are real, enhanced with AI, or completely generated by AI.
Anyway, they are exceptional.
 

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"Still for the Developer. I don’t know if they will let you pass with the character of Monica Bellucci."
 

Saint Blackmoor

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Really too kinetic for me... 1 choice in end of chapter, so 2 choices in this for now .

Good luck with your game M dev its end here for me.
Real life is lived by choices; don't get bogged down in fictional ones. It's just entertainment.
 
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Real life is lived by choices; don't get bogged down in fictional ones. It's just entertainment.
Vn game are played by choice, if not it s just a kinetic, a comic/ebook and i m here in f95 to play games not to read comic, so i m not really untertained that all...
I would like with more player freedom, like be angry to the reaver who kindap me and part my familly or to this world who think it s normal and try to use me, and not a pushover mc who agree with all... but well it is what it is and if you like it, good for you. For me it s not so i just said why and drop it, not a big deal.

ps it s always odd in another world story with hero who are ok to be kidnap....
 
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Jubs!

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how long of playtime this version if I may ask?
I think probably 1-2 hours, difficult for me to say because I obviously know it all and so would go through it quicker than someone who doesn't.
 
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Jubs!

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Vn game are played by choice, if not it s just a kinetic, a comic/ebook and i m here in f95 to play games not to read comic, so i m not really untertained that all...
I would like with more player freedom, like be angry to the reaver who kindap me and part my familly or to this world who think it s normal and try to use me, and not a pushover mc who agree with all... but well it is what it is and if you like it, good for you. For me it s not so i just said why and drop it, not a big deal.

ps it s always odd in another world story with hero who are ok to be kidnap....
There is player choice, but the overall plot remains the same. I don't want to get tied up in knots trying to track multiple story altering events. Also, the more major plot variations you have to manage, the longer it takes to get anywhere with the game. One of my favourite games on here is Seeds of Chaos. I love the characters, the art style, the deep interwoven plots and the choice.. but the story moves along so slowly because they have to produce so many variations. I find that frustrating and don't want it to happen here. So choices here = flavour, think Mass Effect style renegade/paragon. The outcome is usually not different, but the way it is achieved puts a different flavour or spin on it. There haven't been many choices up to this point, because the opening was intended to set the scene, build some characters and establish the challenge ahead of the MC. You will notice at the end that there are points for things starting to be accrued. Those points will translate into different (not better or the only way to achieve something) options in later choices. It will also unlock events and missions and determine the outcome of certain key events.
 
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Jubs!

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Hello everyone.
I would like to clear up this doubt by asking the developer:
I can't understand if some characters and locations are real, enhanced with AI, or completely generated by AI.
Anyway, they are exceptional.
Thank you, it took a lot of trial and error to get to a point where I am happy with the quality of images - I started trying to tame AI image generating tools for mods nearly a year ago.

There are a AI enhanced photos for some of the backgrounds (about 5 of them I think). The rest are AI produced, then edited (to remove stuff like modern motor cars in a victorian era city street, or computer monitors in an alchemy lab) and then, depending on the result, enhanced/extended and/or upscaled to improve colour and fidelity and make sure they are the right aspect ratio and size. The best tool I've found for generating backgrounds is flux pro (google's is pretty good, but far too expensive), but that generates at a max 1440 res. So those have to be either upscaled and cropped to the 1920 x 1080 for the game, or there is a tool I use which can extend the existing image.

All the characters are completely generated from AI ( I use stable diffusion on my home PC). Depending on what pose, zoom and detail level I need, the characters (the sprites) are usually generated at 856 x 1152, 1152 x 856 or 1024 x 1024 and use 50-60 steps in each generation to get as much detail as I can. For the upper and full body shots I then clean up the hands, which are almost always a mess and then upscale them, usually by 1.5x . Some characters on screen have the whole scene generated. For example, the slavers at the end, those are generated scenes using flux pro. That requires a lot of trial and error, and is also why, where Gabriella, Lyra and Kane are meant to be in the background, they aren't consistent. But I felt the overall tone and intent of the images were clear enough. In the future if I need to do scenes like that, I'll try to generate the scene with the random people and cut in a proper sprite for the key character to keep things consistent.
 
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Jubs!

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atleast the dev is upfront with the ntr and gay, but any scenes thats with another dick thats not the mc is a ignore for me.
i recommend the dev to consider making ntr,gay,futa/trans,prostitution,sissification,multiple penetration 100% avoidable or give the player the ability to turn off these fetishes, but i can also see why not do that since alot fail to not make it bleed through the story.

also i see that rape tag is already there, wanna ask if its the mc doing it or is it a future li being raped.
I get that. I think maybe I shouldn't have included some of those tags, I just am not sure what the best thing to do about them is. Gay, sissification etc. Not in it, may never be in it. There are gay people and people doing gay things in the world and you may encounter that, but you won't be involved and it won't show what they are doing. There are also slaves and people in situations they have no control of and you may encounter that too, but again.. not in a taking part kind of way. I have a plot line and character arc I could develop where this happens to another character in the game (not the MC) but it's not something I have any intention of working on any time soon, there is a vast amount of other content to get done before I even consider it.

Prostitution.. no chance of avoiding it. Key characters in the game work as prostitutes and one of the factions is about protecting and advancing their status, protecting their businesses etc. But it isn't you or anyone in the family that do it, Isabella and Gabriella are prostitutes and strippers etc. Isabella, not so much as she is wanting to retire from that life, but Gabriella is and does use those skills to advance her agenda and protect Isabella and her allies. It doesn't mean you will see her doing it. At this point I can't see why I would have you actually watching her "at work", the prostitution side of it anyway, stripping.. almost certainly.

Multiple penetration.. I guess the concern there is similar to the NTR thing? Not something that I expect to happen to any of the main characters, if it happens at all - it's on the list of .. could conceivably include it, but I personally am not a big fan of it so I'm not looking for a reason to put it in.

NTR I've talked about it on other threads, I don't think it's what most people seem to be reading it as, but can't work out how to explain that.

Futa/Trans - one of the main romantic interests who is not in 0.1 and won't be in for a while, is trans. Sort of, they are a different species so i'm not sure that gender identity tag works here. You don't have to romance them, but I doubt I could make it so you don't interact with them at all. There are also other supernatural and magical beings and it's likely some of those will have multiple sex attributes, but you will not have to engage in sex with any of them (but you may see them if, for example, it's a god or demon that doesn't care about hiding what they are). I dono, i could put an option to skip the images showing I guess, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.
 

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Prostitution.. no chance of avoiding it. Key characters in the game work as prostitutes and one of the factions is about protecting and advancing their status, protecting their businesses etc. But it isn't you or anyone in the family that do it, Isabella and Gabriella are prostitutes and strippers etc. Isabella, not so much as she is wanting to retire from that life, but Gabriella is and does use those skills to advance her agenda and protect Isabella and her allies. It doesn't mean you will see her doing it. At this point I can't see why I would have you actually watching her "at work", the prostitution side of it anyway, stripping.. almost certainly.

Multiple penetration.. I guess the concern there is similar to the NTR thing? Not something that I expect to happen to any of the main characters, if it happens at all - it's on the list of .. could conceivably include it, but I personally am not a big fan of it so I'm not looking for a reason to put it in.

NTR I've talked about it on other threads, I don't think it's what most people seem to be reading it as, but can't work out how to explain that.
Ok, here it's better to ask a more specific question. I have nothing against prostitutes having sex or slaves as long as they are not imposed on us like LI and I don't consider this NTR. The question is, will the main LI sleep with someone behind the MC's back while being in a relationship with him?
 
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To the dev:
Ignore every single "advice" to change characters, story or to avoid themes.
It is your story to tell, if you find it necessary to use one of the despised/taboo themes, do it (as long as it makes sense, it fits the characters, narrative and the world rules)
Use feedback, but do not let it compromise your vision.
If you envision a character to be gay, trans, futa, black, blue, purple, elf, mutant, whatever, it is OK.
Never put the audience (or patrons) in charge of the content direction

The only advice I will give is:
Add a codex and only introduce concepts, people and world events in the story.
* Avoid exposition dumps, put the exposition in the codex instead. It helps with the flow (and you can review and reference things later)
* The character dossier idea is a start, but at the end of chapter 2, it is a bit late.
* The codex doesn't need to be the proverbial "phone app" or a book/journal. It can, but it doesn't need to be represented in the story. A menu item will suffice (It is an aid for the player, not necessarily for the MC)
 
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