VN Others Luna in the Tavern [v0.37] [TitDang]

[tuShua]

a game with a ton of potential if done correctly

Trust me. You're not the first one to say that. TitDang's games always seem to have a lot of potential but the developer/s have a habit of not finishing the game and quickly move to a new one. It's like the fear of patreons losing interest and slowly not support him so he instead moves on to another one to hype up their interest. People like that are a pure waste. If you can't have the priority to finish something, you'll never end up finishing other things as well. The cycle will keep going until the developer changes ways. Til then, I'm willing to bet this game will be developed halfthrough and then abandoned and then moves on to another one again. It's the truth behind the developer/s seen through 2 games already

If you want to keep having faith, no one's going to judge you on that and continue if you want. I've been holding on to this dev and trying to understand his actions for not finishing games. But the devs current move has gone way too far and simply has completely lost my respect

 

[lostraven]

I'm just gonna tuck this one away for a certain unofficial Captain's Log Game awards come November...

Or at least, keep an eye on it for now.

 

[Nyrom]

It's like a worse version of the Peter Molyneux cycle, people don't even have the chance to be disappointed with the previous game before the developer already sings tales of glory for the next one.

 

[darklink5222]

Oh sweet, Luna. Art's pretty good too. Wonder where this'll go in a few updates.

 

[ZeeLazy]

I'm sorry, but what the actual fuck? Are you seriously telling me I need to be a Patron to save and load in this game.

I'm getting strong Metal Gear Survive vibes

 

[lowtierntrgod]

Let's play a game, drink a shot every time someone posts whining about the patreon ads in-game.

Fuck, I'll die if I do that.

I can deal with ads but only letting patreons save is a new low kind of like if ea made porn games basically this is incredibly predatory

 

[TitDang]

Heya.
I’m sorry you’ve disappointed the game contains ads and paid features that make a road for future updates. I’m not searching for hype themes, and I always wanted to make NSFW parody game about Dota 2. Great thanks to people who supported my previous games, but despite “pretty solid support” it wasn’t enough to make new updates pretty often - I worked alone in my free time as much as I could. Now with ads inside and paid features, I can make a comfortable game with a ton of arts together with my partner. I got the plan, and I just will be working further.

 

[lostraven]

Heya.
I’m sorry you’ve disappointed the game contains ads and paid features that make a road for future updates. I’m not searching for hype themes, and I always wanted to make NSFW parody game about Dota 2. Great thanks to people who supported my previous games, but despite “pretty solid support” it wasn’t enough to make new updates pretty often - I worked alone in my free time as much as I could. Now with ads inside and paid features, I can make a comfortable game with a ton of arts together with my partner. I got the plan, and I just will be working further.

From one developer to another.

Don't rely on ads and paid features to pave the road for future updates.

Ads are fine as a supplement, but not at the expense of the main game's development.

There are also plenty more fun ways to integrate them rather than blocking off content etc. Crossovers, unique items you can buy in-game, quests etc are more fun and engaging.

Consistency, reliability, and transparency with your updates will take you far further than relying just on ads and marketing gimmicks. The money will come with time.

This forum is also extremely skeptical around advertisement tactics such as these following another Dev, Darth smut, who leaned into them over actually developing his game, and actively sought to try to bring the 'mobile marketing' shady tactics into the fold.

Good luck with your game, your artwork is outstanding.

 

[pyro main]

There are also plenty more fun ways to integrate them rather than blocking off content

Blocking off content is kind of a line - nothing past this (like blocking core save/load mechanics) will be accepted by anyone.

 

[pyro main]

Also VN is the worst format for this kind of cutting content. It's a linear story, not a sandbox.

 

[BrokenRose]

I got the plan, and I just will be working further.

Does this plan include any further updates to Windranger's Wanderings, or has that game been basically scrapped to make room for what is basically a Pay2Play game?

 

[drebin]

You really need to restructure your secret scenes. Right now you can subscribe for 15$ and have access to the Mirana scene, but since it will never be public or in the offline version, you basically have always online DRM. Once it expires you can't access it anymore.

So if you want to see past secret scenes moving forward, you will have to pledge 15$ every single month. At least create a way so you can keep the ones you already paid for.

 

[Curelt]

Guys v0.2 exsist one sex scane 4 picture (one of them on spoiler).That all.Cost 15$

Dudes stop making a mess. Its not a cost, its early access. And yeah maybe its quite lame to hide saves behind a paywall but author did it to give himself a new start, maybe (probably not but maybe) hes a new man now and after this awkward start he will pull out better. Anyways ive always dreamed of dota game for some reason and thank you for making two of them. Really love dota for some weird reason.
PS. How to open the secret scene? in 0.1

 

[Curelt]

Does this plan include any further updates to Windranger's Wanderings, or has that game been basically scrapped to make room for what is basically a Pay2Play game?

read his patreon i saw some info on it there

 

[drebin]

Dudes stop making a mess. Its not a cost, its early access. And yeah maybe its quite lame to hide saves behind a paywall but author did it to give himself a new start, maybe (probably not but maybe) hes a new man now and after this awkward start he will pull out better. Anyways ive always dreamed of dota game for some reason and thank you for making two of them. Really love dota for some weird reason.
PS. How to open the secret scene? in 0.1

Pledge 15$ for the secret scene.

 

[TitDang]

Does this plan include any further updates to Windranger's Wanderings, or has that game been basically scrapped to make room for what is basically a Pay2Play game?

Windranger's Wanderings as a separate game is "abandoned". I changed too much in the next game to continue the original WW in the same way. So if you mean WW: Midforest Episode - it's correct to say it's "on hold" now. I would really want to finish that story. I got several options to do it. But not all at once.

So if you want to see past secret scenes moving forward, you will have to pledge 15$ every single month. At least create a way so you can keep the ones you already paid for.

I made a post about that some time ago, and moreover - I want to make an option for other tier patrons to get these scenes. So this is a viable purpose in our task list. But it's not an easy task - we need to make an entire database, keep it and watch it works correctly. Currently, this is out of our skills, so I can't say how much time it will take. Anyway, we already made own engine to make this game, so I think we could handle this too.

 

[Trickstar]

Trust me. You're not the first one to say that. TitDang's games always seem to have a lot of potential but the developer/s have a habit of not finishing the game and quickly move to a new one. It's like the fear of patreons losing interest and slowly not support him so he instead moves on to another one to hype up their interest. People like that are a pure waste. If you can't have the priority to finish something, you'll never end up finishing other things as well. The cycle will keep going until the developer changes ways. Til then, I'm willing to bet this game will be developed halfthrough and then abandoned and then moves on to another one again. It's the truth behind the developer/s seen through 2 games already

If you want to keep having faith, no one's going to judge you on that and continue if you want. I've been holding on to this dev and trying to understand his actions for not finishing games. But the devs current move has gone way too far and simply has completely lost my respect

After reading this and the devs responses honestly my faith is gone already but honestly I still got other games anyway. So in the end it's not a big deal as time will show what happens when you abandon things and give into greed under the guise of game making.

 

[lostraven]

Blocking off content is kind of a line - nothing past this (like blocking core save/load mechanics) will be accepted by anyone.

I was talking about implementing advertisements, not blocking off content and using THAT as your advertisement.
Blocking off content is a big no no.

E.g. In-game purchasing a comic book that just so 'happens' to be advertising on a page another devs project or something like that.

 

[lechtoyz]

Art looks great and as a (barely) functional alcoholic myself, I can dig a game entirely about boobs and booze... That said, gonna wait until there's a bit more going on here, especially given the dev hasn't even finished their previous game yet.

 

[Curelt]

lol what a scene u are making ma girls, chill
Titdang thank you for the game, hope you will manage to find the best for everyone outcome. Good luck, and yeah try to not abandon stuff this time, it has great potential as some already said)