Ren'Py Lust Academy [S4 v4.5.1d] [Bear in the Night]

[HiP1]

I disagree. Tell me ONE game where the most popular chars received many scenes in the beginning or even in the middle of their development cycle? Those chars always receive a lot of teasing but I never experienced that they receive more scenes up to certain point. Take Badik and Midnight paradise for example. It took both games YEARS to offer a Sex scene with the most popular characters (Bella, Jill and Joyce). Yes there are people who wait for their subscription until a certain scene is happening but the majority stays because from update to update they hope to receive what they're waiting for. I've witnessed sooo many devs/games where they stretched a certain something just for the sake of stretching. They felt like they would lose something if they finally deliver what so many people wait for. At least I know more games where popular chars get more teasing than actual Sex scenes and most of the time it's not for the sake of storytelling. I think you attach way too much importance to the storytelling of an erotic game. The biggest selling point of all those games are Sex scenes, not the story. Many people do not even read/experience the story but only skip to scenes or use a gallery unlocker. Yes you can always find a way to make it sound like "ahhh makes sense they do not have Sex atm" but most of the time there is always a bigger picture behind it like "If we finally deliver spicy content with the most popular character people might lose interest so let's just continue to tease instead." I absolutely could be wrong in the case of Lust Academy and since it's one of the games where the MC has Sex with tons of characters it's not that "bad" anyways. But you said the majority of games would fail and that is where I disagree. Badik, Amnesia, Heart Problems, Midnight Paradise, Milfy City, LISC just to name a few popular ones where it took (or actually still takes) an eternity to deliver scenes with the most popular characters yet they kept/keep being freaking successful.

So I tend to disagree on your take.

well, we disagree. it's ok it's what breeds interesting discussions, even if no one budges from their position.

unless we do a scientific research on it, we won't actually know the answer, and it's only perception and anecdotal personal experience. you picked outliers in your examples too.
most games don't do surveys anyway, so knowing the most popular character for each one is impossible. but citing one game is easy: My Bully is my lover. Gwen is best girl and was polled as most popular and she got the very first scene, and the game is still popular. Another is Companion of Darkness, Noel is the most popular, and she got the most scene early, and still now, and the game is at its peak popularity.
Slow burns for popular girls is definitely a thing, though. it happens in many games. and it keeps the player wanting for sure, if it's done well, and is coherent to the character's story and personality.

in Badik, Bella and Jill are not the most popular. i'd say it's quite equal, fans are spread among the girls rather evenly.
you seem to have a preference towards girls with bigger boobs, and milfs, which is totally ok, but it doesn't mean that they are automatically the most popular. though, those two "traits" are very popular indeed.
badik has scenes for all the main girls, and side girls now, and it's still popular and going stronger than ever. it is the exact counter example to your argument. each update gives scenes for all main girls at the very least, and many side girls too, if not all of them, depending on the update. that game uses both slow burns and quick scenes, and they make sense for each character.

Story and storytelling are important. yes, I, myself, put them at the top of my priority list for sure, but for the majority of AVN fans, they are still important. if not, then they would only need to go to free porn sites. People that only use gallery unlockers and never read a line of the story are rare, imo. I haven't seen one yet, but I believe they would not discuss the games anyway.
It's not just about the girls' model and physical appearance. their backstory, their dialogs, are also important to make them lovable and popular.
Also, if you say most people play the game for the sex scenes, then they should want even more sex scenes for the girls they prefer, wouldn't you say ? that also contradicts your own point.

 

[Sony676]

well, we disagree. it's ok it's what breeds interesting discussions, even if no one budges from their position.

unless we do a scientific research on it, we won't actually know the answer, and it's only perception and anecdotal personal experience. you picked outliers in your examples too.
most games don't do surveys anyway, so knowing the most popular character for each one is impossible. but citing one game is easy: My Bully is my lover. Gwen is best girl and was polled as most popular and she got the very first scene, and the game is still popular. Another is Companion of Darkness, Noel is the most popular, and she got the most scene early, and still now, and the game is at its peak popularity.
Slow burns for popular girls is definitely a thing, though. it happens in many games. and it keeps the player wanting for sure, if it's done well, and is coherent to the character's story and personality.

in Badik, Bella and Jill are not the most popular. i'd say it's quite equal, fans are spread among the girls rather evenly.
you seem to have a preference towards girls with bigger boobs, and milfs, which is totally ok, but it doesn't mean that they are automatically the most popular. though, those two "traits" are very popular indeed.
badik has scenes for all the main girls, and side girls now, and it's still popular and going stronger than ever. it is the exact counter example to your argument. each update gives scenes for all main girls at the very least, and many side girls too, if not all of them, depending on the update. that game uses both slow burns and quick scenes, and they make sense for each character.

Story and storytelling are important. yes, I, myself, put them at the top of my priority list for sure, but for the majority of AVN fans, they are still important. if not, then they would only need to go to free porn sites. People that only use gallery unlockers and never read a line of the story are rare, imo. I haven't seen one yet, but I believe they would not discuss the games anyway.
It's not just about the girls' model and physical appearance. their backstory, their dialogs, are also important to make them lovable and popular.
Also, if you say most people play the game for the sex scenes, then they should want even more sex scenes for the girls they prefer, wouldn't you say ? that also contradicts your own point.

I was not saying Badik didn't offer scenes with them but it took quite some time (even with other chars from the main cast). I just follow the reddit and there have been some popularity contests over time where Bella and Jill came out on top most of the time. But in their cases I'd even say the "slowburn" was fantastic because you really wanted to see their story progress to get closer to the MC. Especially Bellas first Sex scene in ep8 was sooo rewarding and they've build it up perfectly. It's not that I personally dislike slow storytelling if done well. Giving me a Sex scene with the (imo) hottest character in the first initial release makes it kinda uninspiring since I probably didn't get a chance to like her personality.

But in this forum I saw many people asking for a full save or unlocker after each and every update. I tend to do so sometimes if I really only enjoy a game for its esthetics. It's rarely the case but sometimes it happens. And even if I finished an update I also look for an unlocker when no integrated gallery is available. Still, even if I also say a well written story makes Sex scenes even better there are quite some people who like porn and video games and those novels are the perfect mixture. They're here for the scenes only. They definitely exist.

The games you talked about I don't know. I think I once started My bully is my lover but eventually didn't like it. But the games i personally follow tend to keep a scene with the "best girl" for a later update. And it's not only my personal preference but I read a lot in the threads, in the discord servers or on patreon. That's how you get a feeling which girl is the most popular one and I stand by what I said: Many devs notice what they have there and try to stretch it more and more until a scene is inevitable.

 

[HiP1]

I was not saying Badik didn't offer scenes with them but it took quite some time (even with other chars from the main cast). I just follow the reddit and there have been some popularity contests over time where Bella and Jill came out on top most of the time. But in their cases I'd even say the "slowburn" was fantastic because you really wanted to see their story progress to get closer to the MC. Especially Bellas first Sex scene in ep8 was sooo rewarding and they've build it up perfectly. It's not that I personally dislike slow storytelling if done well. Giving me a Sex scene with the (imo) hottest character in the first initial release makes it kinda uninspiring since I probably didn't get a chance to like her personality.

But in this forum I saw many people asking for a full save or unlocker after each and every update. I tend to do so sometimes if I really only enjoy a game for its esthetics. It's rarely the case but sometimes it happens. And even if I finished an update I also look for an unlocker when no integrated gallery is available. Still, even if I also say a well written story makes Sex scenes even better there are quite some people who like porn and video games and those novels are the perfect mixture. They're here for the scenes only. They definitely exist.

The games you talked about I don't know. I think I once started My bully is my lover but eventually didn't like it. But the games i personally follow tend to keep a scene with the "best girl" for a later update. And it's not only my personal preference but I read a lot in the threads, in the discord servers or on patreon. That's how you get a feeling which girl is the most popular one and I stand by what I said: Many devs notice what they have there and try to stretch it more and more until a scene is inevitable.

We are getting off topic quite a lot from the game itself. I fear our comments will get deleted/moderated soon but let me say that I enjoy the exchange now, in case it gets deleted later.

Yeah, I followed the badik reddit for a time too, but it's not very active, so I don't know if it's really representative.
Bella had content before ep8 though. if not full penetrating sex scenes, there was still sexual content. Jill is the only one that made us wait till ep8 with tons of teasing along the way, though she is the typical slow burn character trope as the innocent princess.

to bring it back to Lust Academy a bit (and mitigate the chance of deletion ), Victoria is very similar to Bella, I'd even say it's the same character except for the dark secret part of Bella. but her first scene was not satisfying at all and disappointed all her fans. but in this game, the scenes are very numerous, but not that great either. some can be long with more positions and acts, but longer doesn't mean better, it could just be tedious to go through. which is why I didn't expect anything from Victoria's first scene, while the anticipation for Bella peaked thanks to the quality of all the other scenes. and it's not just the animations and renders that were good, the scene was carried by the dialog and story during it. I don't know if you played Stray Incubus, but Annabelle is also a slow burn LI like Bella, and the over quality of the scenes in the game is rather good to very good, but the dev botched Annabelle's first scene by using an "instant loss" effect for it. it destroyed all the build up and anticipation for the character and her story. and I think the disappointment from that was stronger than for Victoria.

When I see people asking for saves, I understood it as them wanting to have a starting point for the newest update and not having to replay the whole game from the start because they lost or deleted their saves. But maybe you're right and they just want to check out the gallery. Though, like I said, it would just be easier to go to free porn sites instead. I'm sure they exist, and if they enjoy it, good for them, but I don't get it at all as I'm at the exact opposite and enjoy the story the most, even if there is no sex scene

I'm also pretty that some devs, like you said, do want to stretch the slow burn for as long and as excruciating as possible for popular characters, but I don't believe they are the majority.

if you already tried my bully is my lover, I'd recommend you give it another chance as the latest updates are particularly great. companion of darkness too, the story and lore are quite original and creative. maybe you don't like the honey select games because of the graphics style and you prefer photorealistic renders from Daz/Blender like Lust Academy ?

 

[Quriosity]

I was close to finishing 2, when I received an enormous exception. I mean huge, several pages in Notepad. Is there a way to continue?

 

[Nemo56]

"there was an error" will not help in anyway to actually solve it.

You can post it, but use spoiler tags, so it won't fill the screen of those who don't want to read.

 

[Quriosity]

Hey, I can finally attach files! Anyways, here is the trace file.

 

[Xiba21]

question can we cram all the season into 1 or no what i mean by that is download all copy the files needed in season 2 3 and 4 into the season 1 game and have all seasons in 1 game?????? will this work or no because doing this does work with games that are in parts

 

[Mac0987]

New update is out.... Wonder if any one got it?

 

[Nemo56]

question can we cram all the season into 1 or no what i mean by that is download all copy the files needed in season 2 3 and 4 into the season 1 game and have all seasons in 1 game?????? will this work or no because doing this does work with games that are in parts

Bear In The Night sells the seasons a s separate games and probably has no interest in doing that, they can make more money this way.

If all the IDs and filenames in all seasons are unique, then it should be possible by merging the scripts. If that's not the case, that's just way too much work. But if you find someone willing to do this ...

 

[Nemo56]

Hey, I can finally attach files! Anyways, here is the trace file.

There is a endless loop in there due to a missing entry point 'Main_Quest_49_label'

1. Do you use the official version? Compressed? Modded?
It should not happen with the official one, I played through that (bought on GOG) without problems.

2. Are you maybe trying to load a savegame from a different season? There it would make sense that a quest is not present.

 

[Quriosity]

I'm using the zipped, uncompressed, un-moded version found here. I will get another DL, and see if my game file is corrupt. Thanks for looking at this!

 

[lanlong3]

anyone?

 

[PELLZY]

In season 2 how do I talk to Ashley at Dale? On info progress section it says i should visit her at Dale-ly apartments when I'm at Dale.

 

[wolf677]

In season 2 how do I talk to Ashley at Dale? On info progress section it says i should visit her at Dale-ly apartments when I'm at Dale.

you know hotel in dale talk to girl there sunday morning visit ashley

 

[wolf677]

talk to girl sunday in hotel

 

[Nemo56]

I'm using the zipped, uncompressed, un-moded version found here. I will get another DL, and see if my game file is corrupt. Thanks for looking at this!

Also don't forget that if you download a new version, always use a empty target directory or delete everything from the old directory but the savegames.
Ren'Py has the nasty habit to load everything it finds, no matter if the game asks for it or not. and if then there's something that interfears with other data, it can cause problems.
And if a savegame was created in a corrupted installation, it might still cause problem in a clean one (bad labels and so on). So maybe go back a few saves and try an older one.

 

[Quriosity]

A complete reload and restart fixed my problem.

Thanks for the help!

 

[Ahchi]

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Dear Witches & Wizards! Welcome to our weekly DevUpdate!
But first of all, let's set the mood with a little troll-themed joke:
Why don’t trolls like fast food?
...
They can’t catch it!

Ha-ha, that was a good one! And what can accompany a joke better than a bunch of good news? The most important one, of course, is the release of the minor update for Lust Academy Season 4!
Check here what version 4.3.1d has to offer:

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Now let's have a serious talk about what we've done this week:
• Finished 69 new renders with Dakota, Haley and Ashley.
• Retouched 63 renders to add a special magical atmosphere!
• Finished 7 full HD 60fps animations for hot scenes.
• Finished dialogues for Wendy's storyline for version 4.4.1.
• Finished dialogues for Kayla's storyline for version 4.4.1.
• Finished dialogues for Audrey's storyline for version 4.4.1.
That's it for today! Stay tuned for more updates and have a great week!
With love,
Bear in the Night team.

 

[PELLZY]

you know hotel in dale talk to girl there sunday morning visit ashley

I try to talk to mina in the hotel but it just says there's nothing to talk about.

 

[wolf677]

I try to talk to mina in the hotel but it just says there's nothing to talk about.

have try in morning sunday in dale or