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For all of you that are having issues transferring your progress from season 2 you need to be using the season 2 v. 1.11.1d. the version with the Cordale DLC will not show the needed transfer button. I had to download the v 1.11.1d to get it to work. Bear in the Night even tells you that in the instruction for the update once you start the game.
 
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Macinnes

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I am having an issue with the English translation in the update. It is really strained and awkward and seems more transliterated than a proper translation. Trying to read that is affecting immersion. "Lady you took me by surprise. I had no idea you would ask me to do such things." That wording is pretty stiff and not really fitting the sexual tension of the scene in the lingerie shop. Most of the new content in the update reads like this. I suggest a better writer who knows English better for your translation work.
 

Bear in the Night

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I am having an issue with the English translation in the update. It is really strained and awkward and seems more transliterated than a proper translation. Trying to read that is affecting immersion. "Lady you took me by surprise. I had no idea you would ask me to do such things." That wording is pretty stiff and not really fitting the sexual tension of the scene in the lingerie shop. Most of the new content in the update reads like this. I suggest a better writer who knows English better for your translation work.
Thanks, we are already working on proofreading :)
Hope it will be finished by 3.3.1
 
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MarsUltor

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I am having an issue with the English translation in the update. It is really strained and awkward and seems more transliterated than a proper translation. Trying to read that is affecting immersion. "Lady you took me by surprise. I had no idea you would ask me to do such things." That wording is pretty stiff and not really fitting the sexual tension of the scene in the lingerie shop. Most of the new content in the update reads like this. I suggest a better writer who knows English better for your translation work.
This is a good example, and just off the top of my head, without knowing the specific context firsthand, I think a better version would be something like:

"You really surprised me when you asked me to do that. I'm not complaining, just surprised."

There are numerous instances throughout all three Seasons where the dialogue would benefit from this kind of common conversational English revision, which would transform an already very good game into a great one. Currently, a lot of the dialogue appears to be written in " " grammar.
 

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I am genuinely surprised just how utterly terrible the story is. Like it's genuinely, unbearably bad. None of the characters have an ounce of believability to them. They're all so lifeless, so dumb, so moronic. None of them talk like actual human beings. The protagonist sucks, all the girls suck, every single piece of dialogue is utterly dreadful.

It sucks because the game achieves so much in other departments. Good animations, good renders, great choice with allowing a simple VN mode and skipping minigames...but the story is just so terrible it ruins the game. Only time I've seen it happen in a porn game too. Normally you can ignore bad stories, but in this one the general dialogue itself is so bad it's impossible to ignore.

I don't mean to offend but has the developer ever talked to another person? People don't talk like whatever is going on in the game.
 
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I am genuinely surprised just how utterly terrible the story is. Like it's genuinely, unbearably bad. None of the characters have an ounce of believability to them. They're all so lifeless, so dumb, so moronic. None of them talk like actual human beings. The protagonist sucks, all the girls suck, every single piece of dialogue is utterly dreadful.

It sucks because the game achieves so much in other departments. Good animations, good renders, great choice with allowing a simple VN mode and skipping minigames...but the story is just so terrible it ruins the game. Only time I've seen it happen in a porn game too. Normally you can ignore bad stories, but in this one the general dialogue itself is so bad it's impossible to ignore.

I don't mean to offend but has the developer ever talked to another person? People don't talk like whatever is going on in the game.
I feel like its only gotten worse the longer the game has gone on too. Not a good sign to be going backwards...
 

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I am genuinely surprised just how utterly terrible the story is. Like it's genuinely, unbearably bad. None of the characters have an ounce of believability to them. They're all so lifeless, so dumb, so moronic. None of them talk like actual human beings. The protagonist sucks, all the girls suck, every single piece of dialogue is utterly dreadful.

It sucks because the game achieves so much in other departments. Good animations, good renders, great choice with allowing a simple VN mode and skipping minigames...but the story is just so terrible it ruins the game. Only time I've seen it happen in a porn game too. Normally you can ignore bad stories, but in this one the general dialogue itself is so bad it's impossible to ignore.

I don't mean to offend but has the developer ever talked to another person? People don't talk like whatever is going on in the game.
I feel like its only gotten worse the longer the game has gone on too. Not a good sign to be going backwards...
Just to be sure:
Do you think the in-game dialogues are bad because of "bad english" or because they are bad in their "idea" (i.e. the core idea of the dialogues, what and how they talk to each other)?

+ If you have examples of "terrible" or unnatural dialogue or anything you feel "lifeless" feel free to share it here :)
 
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Just to be sure:
Do you think the in-game dialogues are bad because of "bad english" or because they are bad in their "idea" (i.e. the core idea of the dialogues, what and how they talk to each other)?

+ If you have examples of "terrible" or unnatural dialogue or anything you feel "lifeless" feel free to share it here :)
I think i know what they are referring to. The english is fine, as is the grammar. A few grammatical and spelling errors here and there but nothing to complain about. The actual dialogue however is....unusual. They way some of the characters talk to each other seems really old fashioned but it's quite intense(?). I noticed it myself on several occasions and was just thinking no one talks like that. Its mainly when the MC is romancing a girl. They are supposed to be modern day young adults but sometimes they speak like they are in a 50s cheesy romance novel. I personally wouldn't consider it an issue but it does takeaway from the immersion a little
 

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I think i know what they are referring to. The english is fine, as is the grammar. A few grammatical and spelling errors here and there but nothing to complain about. The actual dialogue however is....unusual. They way some of the characters talk to each other seems really old fashioned but it's quite intense(?). I noticed it myself on several occasions and was just thinking no one talks like that. Its mainly when the MC is romancing a girl. They are supposed to be modern day young adults but sometimes they speak like they are in a 50s cheesy romance novel. I personally wouldn't consider it an issue but it does takeaway from the immersion a little
Yeah the way characters interact with each other feels very weird but hey, most games nowadays follow these formulas. Devs prefer a fuckable girl/guy instead of a character with ACTUAL personality. It feels odd imo.
 

destroyerofassholes

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Just to be sure:
Do you think the in-game dialogues are bad because of "bad english" or because they are bad in their "idea" (i.e. the core idea of the dialogues, what and how they talk to each other)?

+ If you have examples of "terrible" or unnatural dialogue or anything you feel "lifeless" feel free to share it here :)
Both.

There is bad English but not in terms of grammar or spelling (mostly.). Most sentences read like it's written by an ESL. It's kinda like getting a "please do the needful" email by the Indian tech dude in your company. It's technically correct, but whatever sentence they imagined in their native tongue does not translate well to English directly, i.e. actual native speakers find it really weird and would have used different words for the same thing. This sort of phrasing is very common in the game, where it's just a whole bunch of weird, unusual lines.

As for "idea", yeah, lines are bad. Characters don't have depth, they act like they're all neurotic and in general none of the romance or flirting is believable. Sure it's a fantasy world but people are people. They fall in love too fast, get angry too quickly, the lines are a mess.

Finding specific examples would probably help you a lot but I really can't be bothered to go back to the game and collect lines...sorry man. I appreciate the rest of the game and your efforts though.
 
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Bear in the Night

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I think i know what they are referring to. The english is fine, as is the grammar. A few grammatical and spelling errors here and there but nothing to complain about. The actual dialogue however is....unusual. They way some of the characters talk to each other seems really old fashioned but it's quite intense(?). I noticed it myself on several occasions and was just thinking no one talks like that. Its mainly when the MC is romancing a girl. They are supposed to be modern day young adults but sometimes they speak like they are in a 50s cheesy romance novel. I personally wouldn't consider it an issue but it does takeaway from the immersion a little
Both.

There is bad English but not in terms of grammar or spelling (mostly.). Most sentences read like it's written by an ESL. It's kinda like getting a "please do the needful" email by the Indian tech dude in your company. It's technically correct, but whatever sentence they imagined in their native tongue does not translate well to English directly, i.e. actual native speakers find it really weird and would have used different words for the same thing. This sort of phrasing is very common in the game, where it's just a whole bunch of weird, unusual lines.

As for "idea", yeah, lines are bad. Characters don't have depth, they act like they're all neurotic and in general none of the romance or flirting is believable. Sure it's a fantasy world but people are people. They fall in love too fast, get angry too quickly, the lines are a mess.

Finding specific examples would probably help you a lot but I really can't be bothered to go back to the game and collect lines...sorry man. I appreciate the rest of the game and your efforts though.
Thanks for that :)
We will check everything and will try to improve it
English should be not a big problem, We are proofreading it rn, and hope will be finished by 3.3.1d
 

MarsUltor

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Thanks for that :)
We will check everything and will try to improve it
English should be not a big problem, We are proofreading it rn, and hope will be finished by 3.3.1d
You and your development team's commitment to improving the quality of the dialogue is greatly appreciated.
 

Bear in the Night

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You and your development team's commitment to improving the quality of the dialogue is greatly appreciated.
Sure thing, it's silly to be deaf to community voice.
There is a simple logic:
Deliver a better game - increase the game awareness, cuz more people will love it and leave positive reviews + tell about it to their friends or community - increase the game sales

So if we can do a better product, everyone will be happy (win-win). Gamers will get the game they love, we get extra money, which we can spend on development of this or any new product.
 
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Can you use catalysts in the arena? When I activate them the spell backfires making me take damage.. am I doing something wrong or is it a bug?
 

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Hello Bear in the Night ,
First,I wanted to thank you for providing one of the best VNs that ever been created!Second,I would like to ask some question.Are you planning on giving us endings with all of the girls.Different endings,same edings between some girls etc etc?For example my fav is Dakota.Second was Lilly. For example,are you planning to get MC to propose to Dakota in later chapters/season asking her dad her hand and get married?For Lilly,are you planning the same?Marriage?Meet with her parents just like Dakota?You decided to let Lilly go so I dont know if it is even possible right now.I really hope you are planning to bring her back for good!I know for me it's Dakota.But I also love Victoria,Sabrina,Adele,Ashley,Irena.I also want to see these 5 with this type of ending I mentioned for Dakota & Lilly.Because for me it's all of these girls I mentioned,but for another person it could be Hayley,Amellie,Gabriella etc etc.So,there are is my thank you for the game and some of my questions. I really hope you are considering making these type of endings not only for these 2 girls,but most of them or better all of them.
 
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