Guys, this debate has been raging pointlessly for a while now. I love all of you, but the truth is Sonpih gonna do what he gonna do; if that means letting his audience pick his direction every now and then or often as hell, so be it. There are literally thousands of porn games out there catering to almost every niche, if this doesn't appeal to you, you are welcome to find what makes you happy~<3 I'm just blessed I enjoy pretty much most everything and my niche is a vast wide open space.
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It is precisely because of the public's indulgence that these projects are not selling.
Those who need femboys don't play games enough for them to pay off.
I look at it this way. If the character (no matter who) is logical and justified by the plot, then it can be a sexually active transgender sloth, a magician and a wizard. But if a character is squeezed in due to public demands, and his presence is not explained, then he is superfluous and completely unnecessary.
In Hogwarts Legacy, there is a bar owner with a male voice, in Russia she speaks with a female voice. And the meaning of the words has not changed.
So think about it
While I agree that adding characters to a work to satisfy some external pressure is a bad idea, I don't think that "justified by the plot" is a very useful way of looking at a character's role in a story. There are plenty of characters who, by the strict needs of the plot, might be considered unnecessary. Tolkien could have folded any number of his characters together without much effect on the plot (would anyone notice Celeborn's absence?), Shakespeare the same (Titus Andronicus hardly needs both Chiron and Demetrius), but would the removal of such "unnecessary" characters enhance the work?
Though if you're arguing that characters of a particular type have to justify themselves then that's a whole other ball game, and not a very happy one. If trans characters have to justify their transness then do gay characters also have to justify their gayness? If that's not what you were saying then I apologise, but it seems like a close argument.
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Doesn't affect the main storyline does not equal to doesn't affect the story. And that should not be the point.
It comes down to Why this character exist?
Is it for internal reason, by Artistic Choice, to serve the creation (plot, world-building, lore, etc)?
The huge problem of today's media, is these characters often exist solely for external reason (such as DEI), has nothing to do with the creation itself, and they are all Bland / Boring / Insulting Stereotypes, ruining the immersion.
Porn Games, on the other hand, have another problem:
Many Characters have roles of fanservice / full-filling audiences' sexual needs.
I don't think these need additional "Justification", but they need to serve the audiences.
Adding one of two "Outliners" doesn't matter, But it'll be a problem if it becomes the direction.
That's why devs need to pay even more attention to stay true to their Artistic Vision, if they wish their games to be something more than just Fillers jacking-off napkins (that you toss off once finished your load).
Our wonderful conversation lacks one ingredient, namely, the opinion of the author himself.
Of course, I am pleased with the philological knowledge of the users of this game, but we must not forget that this is not our story. we are just listeners.
Errors and bugs
1) Zack’s triggers do not work effectively enough. To be more precise, they work every other time.
It's been 10 weeks in the game and the scenario with Zack is not progressing.
Seriously, I'm really tired of triggers not working.
And by the way, I will note that this only happens to Zack.
2) This is already something new. See photo.
1) Zack’s triggers do not work effectively enough. To be more precise, they work every other time.
It's been 10 weeks in the game and the scenario with Zack is not progressing.
Seriously, I'm really tired of triggers not working.
And by the way, I will note that this only happens to Zack.
2) This is already something new. See photo.
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You have to play as a male character, and complete the Redridge Academy story-line.. they will be recruitable in the principals office after you defeat him.
Forgive me if I am still missing your point, but you seem to be suggesting that any character trait should be justified by the needs of the story, be it plot or scene-setting. In your example, Victor/Victoria requires androgyny as a trait in the titular character, which is true. But does that mean that an androgynous character needs to be justified in the plot? Can I not just have one to make the cast more varied and interesting, with no greater motive than that?
You completely misunderstood my reference to the film Victor Victoria.
I meant that the characters in this film and their actions are logical, justified and within the framework of the lore.
Based on the above, if NPCs are logically justified by the plot and do not fall out of the game’s lore, then their presence is justified. If an NPC exists simply for the sake of existing, at someone’s whim, then this will negatively affect the overall impression of the game.
I hope it's clearer this way
Complete the "Academy" mission before the battle with the director and the next day, in the director's office you will receive them.
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Not sure RenPy can handle all these 3D models and Animations.
I agree it'd been better as "VN focus with RPG elements".
But I don't thinks it's "gone to shit", it's never been good on the "gameplay" front (I never played it as an RPG), a few interesting ideas, but never went beyond that.
Not to mention gameplay never feels like a focus for the dev, it's always about modelling / rendering / animating.
I never thought of Lust for Adventure as a visual novel.
In my opinion, the author chose a good balance, not very simple, but at the same time not too boring.
If the author can be reproached for anything, it is that there is too much variety of NPCs, which do not complement the story, but rather ruin it. But I think that in the future the author will tie all the threads of the story into a single ball.
Personally, I’m a little bored because the Academy, in my personal opinion, was unfinished.
There are not enough scenes in the shower, not those according to the script, but those that the player himself could have done.
There are not enough bedroom scenes. Many guys there lie in such positions that they directly beckon you to them, and this is technically impossible to do.
But let me emphasize that this is my view of the situation, and not a complaint to the author.
By the way, the issue of sperm collection has not yet been resolved. That is, it’s clear that we make elixirs from it, but for what? Maybe the author has not yet figured out why this is needed.
And one more point, which was first mentioned on this forum.
Possibility to have sex with NPCs after the mission is completed. This means after the end of the NPC arc. Just go in and fuck the blacksmith (as an example)
Before introducing new characters, it seems to me, it is necessary to bring to its logical conclusion what has already been done.
In any case, I wish the author good luck