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I looked up the script for this scene and it turns out it's actually a bit complicated.

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Anyway, TL;DR: you need to trigger an Othra scene to get the hearts, and it only triggers if you trigger the extra dialogue with Roushk, which only triggers if you have more than 40 like with him and the MC is into men (so, ironically, if you're playing as a Straight Male MC, you can't get a love point with Othra during this event).

But, the good news is, if you did miss the hearts, you can still get them later by approaching Othra and choosing "Missing Hearts".
Thank you so much. I got the option after using a bi potion.
 
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I have here some of the survey results, at least the most important bit.
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Very VERY glad people didn't go mental with Humans and ruin LD's future like the Lust Odyssey patrons are doing right now (an alien/monster-fucker game where the patrons KEEP VOTING FOR HUMANS, WHY?!), so thankfully Hyao is aware people still want humanoids, monsters, and even ferals almost as much as humans!

The second question results shown above are not that surprising either, though kinda surprised how much people want more romance/date stuff, but likely being Aro myself, I'm probably biased against it, lol.
 

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I'm actually surprised that over half of the answers came from just bottom sub/players (and then another third from vers). Like I figured the playerbase leaned towards that, but it didn't feel like it was the vast majority.

Hyao does mention how him writing more bottom stuff than top could have had an influence, and I think that might the reason. The earlygame favours sub/bottom content by quite a lot (I'm mostly thinking of Gunnar here, but there's also how enemy groups only get like if the MC submits to them, unlike later on, or how the Bareshade lewd fame events are mostly sub stuff). The dom/top players might get turned off by that and so do not really stick around. Imo, the recent stuff has been much better at keeping things balanced, so I hope these results don't influence the game's direction too much.

And just as I was complaining about the bottom-exclusive content a little while ago, lol.
 

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I have here some of the survey results, at least the most important bit.
View attachment 3568149

Very VERY glad people didn't go mental with Humans and ruin LD's future like the Lust Odyssey patrons are doing right now (an alien/monster-fucker game where the patrons KEEP VOTING FOR HUMANS, WHY?!), so thankfully Hyao is aware people still want humanoids, monsters, and even ferals almost as much as humans!

The second question results shown above are not that surprising either, though kinda surprised how much people want more romance/date stuff, but likely being Aro myself, I'm probably biased against it, lol.
Where I can see that?

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I'm actually surprised that over half of the answers came from just bottom sub/players (and then another third from vers). Like I figured the playerbase leaned towards that, but it didn't feel like it was the vast majority.

Hyao does mention how him writing more bottom stuff than top could have had an influence, and I think that might the reason. The earlygame favours sub/bottom content by quite a lot (I'm mostly thinking of Gunnar here, but there's also how enemy groups only get like if the MC submits to them, unlike later on, or how the Bareshade lewd fame events are mostly sub stuff). The dom/top players might get turned off by that and so do not really stick around. Imo, the recent stuff has been much better at keeping things balanced, so I hope these results don't influence the game's direction too much.

And just as I was complaining about the bottom-exclusive content a little while ago, lol.
Jeez, 3rd place by a large margin...
 

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Where I can see that?


I'm actually surprised that over half of the answers came from just bottom sub/players (and then another third from vers). Like I figured the playerbase leaned towards that, but it didn't feel like it was the vast majority.
That's virtually the gay community too: Oops! All Bottoms. Vast majority are bottom or vers. Pure tops aren't as common as people think.
 
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That's virtually the gay community too: Oops! All Bottoms. Vast majority are bottom or vers. Pure tops aren't as common as people think.
I wouldn't really know much about the gay community, so I'll have to take your word for it. That does sound right, though.

But on the other hand, a lot of gay erotica (particularly and mostly the bara stuff, but not exclusively), imo, emphasises the top/dom perspective a lot more, which is why LD kind of threw me off with its aesthetics vs its content.
 

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Does anyone got the access to Skullbreaker's camp, after the orc's battle? I didn't got yet so I need help
If you sided with Mirage, you have to wander around the wasteland area until you find it. If you stood against her, you can ask Orgram about the location, iirc.
 
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If you sided with Mirage, you have to wander around the wasteland area until you find it. If you stood against her, you can ask Orgram about the location, iirc.
Thanks, it worked, shame I can't top Khalgor. Guess I'll stick with the green Orcs for the time being
 

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I have here some of the survey results, at least the most important bit.
View attachment 3568149

Very VERY glad people didn't go mental with Humans and ruin LD's future like the Lust Odyssey patrons are doing right now (an alien/monster-fucker game where the patrons KEEP VOTING FOR HUMANS, WHY?!), so thankfully Hyao is aware people still want humanoids, monsters, and even ferals almost as much as humans!

The second question results shown above are not that surprising either, though kinda surprised how much people want more romance/date stuff, but likely being Aro myself, I'm probably biased against it, lol.
Not sure why it's surprising. We don't actually have many "Human" sex partners in this game, on top of my head Gunnar, Bottom Logan, Soldiers, Residents, the fat bandit. All others are not Human.
LD feels really embracing the "diversity" aspect, everything is organic, nothing feels like shoe-horned in.
If it's a human town then of course it'll be (mainly) human, if it's not, no "human-reskin" only to fit into some quota.

Also I wouldn't worry about it turns to be like LO, Hyao is not in for chasing the money like LO's devs, and the creation is not as difficult as creating "aliens". ;)

I wouldn't really know much about the gay community, so I'll have to take your word for it. That does sound right, though.

But on the other hand, a lot of gay erotica (particularly and mostly the bara stuff, but not exclusively), imo, emphasises the top/dom perspective a lot more, which is why LD kind of threw me off with its aesthetics vs its content.
I mean, thinking about the demographics who play gay porn video games. (Play video game = receiving the contents that's been created for you) ;)

Also, Mc Bottom contents are much easier to make - you only need to think about the "giver"; MC Top on the other hand, you need to create the "giver" contents for MC, as well as recipient contents for NPC.

I'm a switch myself, So might be wrong about someone who exclusively looking for MC Top contents. (Personally I don't believe someone who is 'exclusively top' is really gay )
Like you can already play 90% of the porn games if you only want to fuck a hole / dominate others.

Also, ain't MC being topped / Dominated fit into your impression as well? Otherwise not sure where you get this "Bara stuff emphasises the top/dom perspective a lot more".
I can only think of a few games, such as Small on Top.....yeah literally 1 :ROFLMAO:
 
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Not sure why it's surprising. We don't actually have many "Human" sex partners in this game, on top of my head Gunnar, Bottom Logan, Soldiers, Residents, the fat bandit. All others are not Human.
Excluding the ones you specifically named:

Bareshade: Tom, Andrey, Harold, Torben, Bernard, Hayden, Blake, Random guys at the sex spot (+1 for randomly when you have sex w/ the stray dog), +1 for the "Black Brothers" in the tavern if you do the quest "A Person to Rent" (though your "Residents" could include all those unnamed/randos).
[Gunnar and Logan {though you can fuck Top Logan too} were the only ones you already named, besides "Residents"]

Roaming/Bandit Camp: Normal Bandit, Female Bandit, Pair of Bandits, Jester. {Unsure if you can fuck Jester's brother or not?}
[Barrel was the only one you already named]

Northcrest Area: "Soldiers" but that includes both the normal and fat variants as well as *quite a lot of scenes* in Northcrest (saying "we don't have many" is very unfair for the single scene characters), Commander Everett, Booner, SO MANY GUARDS like seriously you have the entrance guards prison guards the two "enemy" guards you can encounter the pair of guards if you walk around naked the ones at the training ground you can play cards with or blow the random guy, etc. You also have all the Public Bath and Public Bedroom scenes, the Brothel scenes; how can you say "we don't have many"!??!?! I'm not even including Dwarves which are BASICALLY just short, hairier, humans.
["Soldiers" is the only ones you named, but like, lumping *ALL* of those scenes and different-but-unnamed characters into one is so unfair]

Elsewhere: There's a few named one-off characters whose names I do not remember nor gaf about. I vaguely remember some by the "gloryhole fence" at Ste's farm/around his area. Also for those who like females, the Nymph is BASICALLY a human for all intents and purposes.

As far as "why it's surprising" (even Hyao said it was to him) is because people love to be "normal" and pick the things they know. It's why "Human" or the "Clearly-a-Human-but-named-as-such" (such as Hyur in Final Fantasy 14) is the most picked/popular race to play as or go after in virtually any game ever, because most Humans (such as us) are, as FTL puts it: boring and uninteresting.

LD feels really embracing the "diversity" aspect, everything is organic, nothing feels like shoe-horned in.
If it's a human town then of course it'll be (mainly) human, if it's not, no "human-reskin" only to fit into some quota.

Also I wouldn't worry about it turns to be like LO, Hyao is not in for chasing the money like LO's devs, and the creation is not as difficult as creating "aliens". ;)
Which I'm very glad about. For the most part, Humans don't feel forced in LD and it does have a healthy mix, though IMO we could do with a smaller percentage of them, especially since we mostly just have humanoid/wild areas left AFAIK. Like, what we have is all we should really ever have for humans, besides maybe one or two more while a ton of humanoids (and beasties) get added.

(Personally I don't believe someone who is 'exclusively top' is really gay )
Interesting-and-factually-wrong take. I get why you might think that, but gay != "putting things inside of you", it only means that you are attracted to the same gender as you, in the same way you can be straight but like having things put in you, usually by a dominatrix female. Even if you have guys do things to you, as long as you're not "attracted to the same gender as you", you're not gay. Being gay or straight has literally nothing to do with your sexual role preferences.

Also, ain't MC being topped / Dominated fit into your impression as well? Otherwise not sure where you get this "Bara stuff emphasises the top/dom perspective a lot more".
I can only think of a few games, such as Small on Top.....yeah literally 1 :ROFLMAO:
EXCLUSIVELY top gay games? Yeah I think SoT might be the only one, and a lot of people don't want to play as a twunky bunny when they're a top.
 

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Excluding the ones you specifically named:

Bareshade: Tom, Andrey, Harold, Torben, Bernard, Hayden, Blake, Random guys at the sex spot (+1 for randomly when you have sex w/ the stray dog), +1 for the "Black Brothers" in the tavern if you do the quest "A Person to Rent" (though your "Residents" could include all those unnamed/randos).
[Gunnar and Logan {though you can fuck Top Logan too} were the only ones you already named, besides "Residents"]

Roaming/Bandit Camp: Normal Bandit, Female Bandit, Pair of Bandits, Jester. {Unsure if you can fuck Jester's brother or not?}
[Barrel was the only one you already named]

Northcrest Area: "Soldiers" but that includes both the normal and fat variants as well as *quite a lot of scenes* in Northcrest (saying "we don't have many" is very unfair for the single scene characters), Commander Everett, Booner, SO MANY GUARDS like seriously you have the entrance guards prison guards the two "enemy" guards you can encounter the pair of guards if you walk around naked the ones at the training ground you can play cards with or blow the random guy, etc. You also have all the Public Bath and Public Bedroom scenes, the Brothel scenes; how can you say "we don't have many"!??!?! I'm not even including Dwarves which are BASICALLY just short, hairier, humans.
["Soldiers" is the only ones you named, but like, lumping *ALL* of those scenes and different-but-unnamed characters into one is so unfair]

Elsewhere: There's a few named one-off characters whose names I do not remember nor gaf about. I vaguely remember some by the "gloryhole fence" at Ste's farm/around his area. Also for those who like females, the Nymph is BASICALLY a human for all intents and purposes.

As far as "why it's surprising" (even Hyao said it was to him) is because people love to be "normal" and pick the things they know. It's why "Human" or the "Clearly-a-Human-but-named-as-such" (such as Hyur in Final Fantasy 14) is the most picked/popular race to play as or go after in virtually any game ever, because most Humans (such as us) are, as FTL puts it: boring and uninteresting.



Which I'm very glad about. For the most part, Humans don't feel forced in LD and it does have a healthy mix, though IMO we could do with a smaller percentage of them, especially since we mostly just have humanoid/wild areas left AFAIK. Like, what we have is all we should really ever have for humans, besides maybe one or two more while a ton of humanoids (and beasties) get added.



Interesting-and-factually-wrong take. I get why you might think that, but gay != "putting things inside of you", it only means that you are attracted to the same gender as you, in the same way you can be straight but like having things put in you, usually by a dominatrix female. Even if you have guys do things to you, as long as you're not "attracted to the same gender as you", you're not gay. Being gay or straight has literally nothing to do with your sexual role preferences.
If you are gay, means you sexually attracted to man. And man hs a dick to fuck, hs a hole to be fucked.
Sure you will have a preference of top or bottom.
But if you exclusively only do top, what that says about you? ;)
That's also why you feel "Pure Top" is so rare, cuz they are not real.

I need to clarify, I don't think "Humans are boring", But you need to create interesting stories about them in a fantasy world, instead of just playing the "Race card".
Cuz Human hs the disadvantage of can't be freely fantasised like all other fictional creatures.

BTW, Dwarves, Bernard / Top Logan (Werewolf shapeshifter), Nymph, are not "Human", They are Humanoids.
And I was talking about Partners / NPCs with their own stories, not just random fuck on the road.
 

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Also, Mc Bottom contents are much easier to make - you only need to think about the "giver"; MC Top on the other hand, you need to create the "giver" contents for MC, as well as recipient contents for NPC.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. I don't see why there's a distinction between 'giver' MC content and 'recipient' NPC content. As far as LD is concerned, most scenes come with two variations, a top!MC one and bottom!MC one (dom and sub are basically synonymous with top and bottom in this game and don't really factor in much, at least from what I've seen). I wouldn't think one takes that much more effort or time to write than the other.

(Personally I don't believe someone who is 'exclusively top' is really gay )
Well, I don't really identify as gay myself, so I guess your theory works, lol.

Like you can already play 90% of the porn games if you only want to fuck a hole / dominate others.
Not really the reasons I'm playing Bara (or Bara-adjacent) games. At best, the dom/sub dynamics don't really do anything for me and are just there. At worst, they are very uncomfortable and a huge turn-off. And I don't really play these games to project myself onto the MC, either.

Also, ain't MC being topped / Dominated fit into your impression as well? Otherwise not sure where you get this "Bara stuff emphasises the top/dom perspective a lot more".
The crucial difference for me between the bottom!MC scenes in this game and bottom!Logan stuff, for example, is that the former is written from the first-person perspective and is clearly meant to be projected onto. As I said, that stuff does nothing for me and is usually just uncomfortable, which is why I avoid it.

I might just have a very biased perspective about this because it's just what I'm personally looking for in gay erotica and paying attention to, but I feel like there's definitely a way that the characters are framed in 'Bara' art/games, especially in the Japanese-made stuff, and how they are sexualised that suggest a "top" perspective, if there even is one (I use Bara here as a catch-all term for depictions that are visibly masculine and that put emphasis on this aspect).

Anyway, just to conclude, stuff like bottom!Logan, even though I hate a lot of things about this route, is what I find the most appealing in this game in terms of erotica. Conversely, characters like Gunnar are the exact opposite of erotic.

Unsure if you can fuck Jester's brother or not?
You can, if you win the boss fight with him by maxinig out his lust.
 
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