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aseknospam

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Nov 6, 2021
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I'm not saying they shouldn't have these type of contents. Read my comment again (Hint: Availability and Accessibility)
Well thats the thing, when the game is finished and cheat menu will be gone, the current Accessibility will be different, and you would have to make actual saves instead of cheating potions into your pocket to change stats or preferences as how it is possible to do now, so if that is not a problem for other games to have content that requares specific actions to be done and would not be available if you screw up, I think its fair to have similar variation of the content, plus Loya to Logan doesnt have "new interactions" he only have alternative version of the same interactions of what regular whoring around route has
 

Icy_

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Nov 7, 2018
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Really wish there's a "Loyal to Logan" Potion you can drink to cheat that enable you to see those, just like the Tank top/bottom potion.
I'm not loving Logan enough to stay "Loyal" to him, But I'm still interested in Logan and want to see what the variation is.
Heck, this is a sandbox-ish RPG that's all about m/m Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN. :(
And it's so out of place as Logan is the only one gets such treatment, almost like some sort of self-insert.

It's actually a very bad game design for this game: What you do if you "Stay Loyal to Logan" and only see the very limited amount of Logan porn? Not Much, this game is not fun to play if there's no sex involved.

It should be a Fan-disk / Spin-off / One-shot that about the "alternative reality", like many other games do.
They can also make more Bottom Logan contents that way, so you can pump up as many scenes as you want, without needing to address it in the main game.
just edit variables that count sex encounters in save editor to zero. i've did so last time there was such scene with Logan
 

aseknospam

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Nov 6, 2021
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What scenes are loyal logan exclusive? I never knew of this.
There is no exclusive content for Loyal Logan, it a alternative variat of same interactions that you have with him but it gives off a different vibe without him slut shaming you or telling you that he can smell others on ya, and actualy prasing you and being extremly horny from knowing that you are his, but in terms of the amount of content its literary same
 
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Bluestorm99

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By Virgin Logan route I mean being only with Logan and only Logan, cuz I havent tested if the thing that gonna be in the update is available before "trouble in the den", since it kinda implies that its after this quest, but I can test and see if its gonna be different, but Im pretty sure it will not be available before you finish that quest, and if you gonna sleep with others after he takes your virginity you will start getting regular variation of dialogue of him "smelling others on you", cuz game tracks that
It will be hard to resist other men for Logan but I will try to endure to see his new content.
 

aseknospam

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Nov 6, 2021
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It will be hard to resist other men for Logan but I will try to endure to see his new content.
It deffinitely is hard cuz you have to refuse Bernard when you visit him at night to start quest "Expantion of Bareshade" in order to get Logan 2nd heart after quest is done, cuz "trouble in the den" has a special interaction when you have 2 hearts at that point when it happens ( it actualy warns in the journal when you going tru it ), but I will repeat myself its now "new" content, it just special variation of existing one
 

nackedsnake

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Well thats the thing, when the game is finished and cheat menu will be gone, the current Accessibility will be different, and you would have to make actual saves instead of cheating potions into your pocket to change stats or preferences as how it is possible to do now, so if that is not a problem for other games to have content that requares specific actions to be done and would not be available if you screw up, I think its fair to have similar variation of the content, plus Loya to Logan doesnt have "new interactions" he only have alternative version of the same interactions of what regular whoring around route has
"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex,
Not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run, nor a game where having sex is not the only thing players play for.
(Again, Fan-disk / spin-off / one-shots / side-story is a way better solution specify for this type of situation)

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.
just edit variables that count sex encounters in save editor to zero. i've did so last time there was such scene with Logan
This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
 
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aseknospam

Newbie
Nov 6, 2021
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"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run.

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.

This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
I think the TIME issue is specific to the person, and dev DOESNT have to accommodate to every single player, so if you dont have time to make a separate save then its YOUR problem, not devs
Yes LD is a mess due to it being a first project, so it will have less structure and more mistakes, plus it only made by one person, so dont have high expectation of it being as a more team managed polished game
Dont like that some of the content variation is HARD to get, then enjoy what is available for you, and the fact that game actualy has more romance related stuff doesnt make it worse, people enjoy it so as dev enjoying making,and the whole point of it not being VN is abit stupid, cuz technicaly it is RPG with VN elements, the difference from regular VNs is that it doesnt have linear structure and build from smaller stories/quests that have connection between each other
 

Bluestorm99

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Dec 26, 2022
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He does have one ( kinda ), after you obtain 3 hearts with him and do work out with him, instead of working out pick "I just here to watch" and you will get something special
I've seen it but I prefer to be fucked by Top Logan over doing "that"
 
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Bluestorm99

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Dec 26, 2022
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Well for that one we have to wait abit more :D Cuz to due sheer amount of different characters its gonna be a long breaks in between updates for specific characters
Yeah there's plenty of other characters besides Logan I can get into while waiting for more of his content.
 

Icy_

New Member
Nov 7, 2018
11
15
"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex,
Not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run, nor a game where having sex is not the only thing players play for.
(Again, Fan-disk / spin-off / one-shots / side-story is a way better solution specify for this type of situation)

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.

This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
didn't bug for me, i actually cheat combat with enormous stats all the time
 

Kessel Gilmore

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Mar 5, 2020
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I have my main playthrough where I just sleep with every possible sexual partner in a Sub/Bottom route. I have a strictly monogamous Top Logan playthrough which kinda sucks because whoring around in a porn game gets you to places faster and further than any other option and here I have to take the diplomatic route, and also you can only focus on one character who has a fair amount of content but not really that much. I have a Top route but boy! do enemies hate when you top them and it only makes things harder for you if you need to be friendly with them, this one I consider Hard Mode because you need to defeat enemies no matter what and most of the time you lose approval from them. I used to have an Evil playthrough but the amount of content that gets cut is insane so this one's gone. Aaaaand finally I used to have a Female playthrough but it's literally a bottom route with an extra hole that rarely gets used because most male partners will still go for anal sex and a few breeding kink scenes here and there, plus some extra comments about you being a woman. Let's be honest, this game was made with a sub bottom male player in mind, it has significantly more content compared to the other options.
 

GoldenStag

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Oct 3, 2020
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When I try to do other route (Virgin Male For Logan, Slut.M / F.Virgin/Slut " ) my first thing to do is to drink thousands of miracle potion to level my traits, Get huge discount, and discover new dialogue especially for those cases that they need you to be high intelligent. Hope Hyao add some option to potion that I could select how many bottles I could drink in one go, something like that, although I have patient to click my phone to finish 4000 miracle potion. But sometimes I don't feel like doing it
Instead of using miracle potions, use stat cookies. They're more efficient.
 

GoldenStag

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Anyone have the patch notes?
Here you go.

PART 1: HYAO AND VIRILE CONTENT

Northcrest

Northcrest Gate:

• Event: Goddess in shining armor (Req: Gold Guard with Everett seen, not naked )



Bareshade

Sawmill:

• Conversation: Your own stand (Req: Fair finished, WW event done or bLogan, Logan like 50+)

• Conversation: Special reward (Req: Max points in Axe Throwing, 2+ Logan hearts)

Fair:

• Attractions: Axe throw (Req: 'Your own stand' talk done)



Deep Jungle

Sabal Encounter:

• Escape (New dialog after being caught 10+ times, No Hate heart)



Iron Blood Village

Battlegrounds:

• Wednesday daytime event (Visit on Wednesday to be told how to join in. You can also just watch.)

• Wednesday competition: Enter (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job finished, Only 'Subligar' equipment is equipped)

Tanner:

• Job: Trial (Req: Seen Battlegrounds Wednesday daytime event scene)



! You can only pick one trial witness. If you want to see all the options, make a save before making a choice !

Groth's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Korg's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Woulbauk pens:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

Maul's tent:

• Conversation: Trial Witness (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job started)

• Entrance: Wednesday daytime



Explore the village:

• Tanner vs Tamer (Req: Orak's 'Trial' job finished, daytime)



Green Halloween:

• Watch Wednesday competition at the Battlegrounds (Req: Non-canon events turned on, Participated in competition at least one time) (Extra variants if Korg and/or Maul have joined the competition)



Bloody Forest

Razor Bear Encounter:

• New Enemy

Explore

• New resources to gather (No crafts for them yet)



PART 2: VISUAL/AUDIO ASPECTS

StanG's addition:

• Maul vs Drak CG

• Maul vs Korg CG

• Maul vs Groth CG

• Groth vs Korg CG

• Groth and Korg Sprites (Updates and new gear)

• Lady Tess Sprite

Narram's addition:

• Razor Bear

Passerby's addition:

• Maul Sprite (New gear)

• Brugo Sprite

Burb’s additions:

• New Icons: Candied Fruit, Sweet Treat, Helmet, Spectral Shoes, Spiked Knuckles, Knife, Silver Knife, Assassin's Blade, Antique Blade, Diabosite/Emerine/Glafire Arrows, Electric Bolts, Resin, Bag of Berries, Dramire Berries, Dramire Roots, Throwing Axe

• Dust Bowl Cavern Background
 
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