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Who's Sabal?
Also I'm glad it seems we are moving forward the plot(since we meet Lady Tess)?
And it's not only about Halloween spin-off events.
And yes top Logan got some update ( including vergin route variation )
You mean Virgin variation?
Like you haven't been fucked up to this point (not even by Logan)?
Or It's Logan who took your virginity (but you fucked plenty after that)?
 

aseknospam

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Who's Sabal?
Also I'm glad it seems we are moving forward the plot(since we meet Lady Tess)?
And it's not only about Halloween spin-off events.

You mean Virgin variation?
Like you haven't been fucked up to this point (not even by Logan)?
Or It's Logan who took your virginity (but you fucked plenty after that)?
By Virgin Logan route I mean being only with Logan and only Logan, cuz I havent tested if the thing that gonna be in the update is available before "trouble in the den", since it kinda implies that its after this quest, but I can test and see if its gonna be different, but Im pretty sure it will not be available before you finish that quest, and if you gonna sleep with others after he takes your virginity you will start getting regular variation of dialogue of him "smelling others on you", cuz game tracks that
 
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By Virgin Logan route I mean being only with Logan and only Logan, cuz I havent tested if the thing that gonna be in the update is available before "trouble in the den", since it kinda implies that its after this quest, but I can test and see if its gonna be different, but Im pretty sure it will not be available before you finish that quest, and if you gonna sleep with others after he takes your virginity you will start getting regular variation of dialogue of him "smelling others on you", cuz game tracks that
Okay I have checked and new stuff for Logan only appears after "Trouble in the den" quest
Really wish there's a "Loyal to Logan" Potion you can drink to cheat that enable you to see those, just like the Tank top/bottom potion.
I'm not loving Logan enough to stay "Loyal" to him, But I'm still interested in Logan and want to see what the variation is.
Heck, this is a sandbox-ish RPG that's all about m/m Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN. :(
And it's so out of place as Logan is the only one gets such treatment, almost like some sort of self-insert.

It's actually a very bad game design for this game: What you do if you "Stay Loyal to Logan" and only see the very limited amount of Logan porn? Not Much, this game is not fun to play if there's no sex involved.

It should be a Fan-disk / Spin-off / One-shot that about the "alternative reality", like many other games do.
They can also make more Bottom Logan contents that way, so you can pump up as many scenes as you want, without needing to address it in the main game.
 
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Really wish there's a "Loyal to Logan" Potion you can drink to cheat that enable you to see those, just like the Tank top/bottom potion.
I'm not loving Logan enough to stay "Loyal" to him, But I'm still interested in Logan and want to see what the variation is.
Heck, this is a sandbox-ish RPG that's all about m/m Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN. :(
And it's so out of place as Logan is the only one gets such treatment, almost like some sort of self-insert.

It's actually a very bad game design for this game: What you do if you "Stay Loyal to Logan" and only see the very limited amount of Logan porn?
Really not Much, this game is not fun to play if there's no sex involved.
No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content, and have main one where you sleep around with everyone, thats how I doing it to experience everything that is available in the game, and its perfectly fine to have a character in a game that actualy takes into account your Loyalty and have special variation due to that, cuz you can still sleep around with everyone and have same type of content that available for Loyal to Logan content but it will have abit different vibe, and this route was not made by Hyao originaly, originaly it was made as funny route due to one realy loyal Logan player that refuse to sleep with anyone beside Logan, so for fun he make a special interaction due to his dedication, and surprisingly it actualy made Logan and MC dynamic alot better without him pointing out that he can smell others and knows that you sleeping around, and actualy prasing you instead and showing actual joy and amusement from knowing that you are only his, and tbh I think characters should have some kind of special interaction based on ther personality, and as we know Logan is extremly jelous type, so I thing only him having this route and special interaction is what makes game interesting, cuz alot of people dont know, that game has that kind of option, so I wouldnt cry about "I wanna have all and at the time without a lifting a finger", wanna have something special then you have to work for it
 
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No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content, and have main one where you sleep around with everyone, thats how I doing it to experience everything that is available in the game, and its perfectly fine to have a character in a game that actualy takes into account your Loyalty and have special variation due to that, cuz you can still sleep around with everyone and have same type of content that available for Loyal to Logan content but it will have abit different vibe, and this route was not made by Hyao originaly, originaly it was made as funny route due to one realy loyal Logan player that refuse to sleep with anyone beside Logan, so for fun he make a special interaction due to his dedication, and surprisingly it actualy made Logan and MC dynamic alot better without him pointing out that he can smell others and knows that you sleeping around, and actualy prasing you instead and showing actual joy and amusement from knowing that you are only his, and tbh I think characters should have some kind of special interaction based on ther personality, and as we know Logan is extremly jelous type, so I thing only him having this route and special interaction is what makes game interesting, cuz alot of people dont know, that game has that kind of option, so I wouldnt cry about "I wanna have all and at the time without a lifting a finger", wanna have something special then you have to work for it
I'm not saying they shouldn't have these type of contents. Read my comment again (Hint: Availability, Accessibility and Playability)
 

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I'm not saying they shouldn't have these type of contents. Read my comment again (Hint: Availability and Accessibility)
Well thats the thing, when the game is finished and cheat menu will be gone, the current Accessibility will be different, and you would have to make actual saves instead of cheating potions into your pocket to change stats or preferences as how it is possible to do now, so if that is not a problem for other games to have content that requares specific actions to be done and would not be available if you screw up, I think its fair to have similar variation of the content, plus Loya to Logan doesnt have "new interactions" he only have alternative version of the same interactions of what regular whoring around route has
 

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Really wish there's a "Loyal to Logan" Potion you can drink to cheat that enable you to see those, just like the Tank top/bottom potion.
I'm not loving Logan enough to stay "Loyal" to him, But I'm still interested in Logan and want to see what the variation is.
Heck, this is a sandbox-ish RPG that's all about m/m Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN. :(
And it's so out of place as Logan is the only one gets such treatment, almost like some sort of self-insert.

It's actually a very bad game design for this game: What you do if you "Stay Loyal to Logan" and only see the very limited amount of Logan porn? Not Much, this game is not fun to play if there's no sex involved.

It should be a Fan-disk / Spin-off / One-shot that about the "alternative reality", like many other games do.
They can also make more Bottom Logan contents that way, so you can pump up as many scenes as you want, without needing to address it in the main game.
just edit variables that count sex encounters in save editor to zero. i've did so last time there was such scene with Logan
 

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What scenes are loyal logan exclusive? I never knew of this.
There is no exclusive content for Loyal Logan, it a alternative variat of same interactions that you have with him but it gives off a different vibe without him slut shaming you or telling you that he can smell others on ya, and actualy prasing you and being extremly horny from knowing that you are his, but in terms of the amount of content its literary same
 

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By Virgin Logan route I mean being only with Logan and only Logan, cuz I havent tested if the thing that gonna be in the update is available before "trouble in the den", since it kinda implies that its after this quest, but I can test and see if its gonna be different, but Im pretty sure it will not be available before you finish that quest, and if you gonna sleep with others after he takes your virginity you will start getting regular variation of dialogue of him "smelling others on you", cuz game tracks that
It will be hard to resist other men for Logan but I will try to endure to see his new content.
 

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It will be hard to resist other men for Logan but I will try to endure to see his new content.
It deffinitely is hard cuz you have to refuse Bernard when you visit him at night to start quest "Expantion of Bareshade" in order to get Logan 2nd heart after quest is done, cuz "trouble in the den" has a special interaction when you have 2 hearts at that point when it happens ( it actualy warns in the journal when you going tru it ), but I will repeat myself its now "new" content, it just special variation of existing one
 

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I hope Top Logan gets a repeatable sex scene like other characters later on
He does have one ( kinda ), after you obtain 3 hearts with him and do work out with him, instead of working out pick "I just here to watch" and you will get something special
 

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Well thats the thing, when the game is finished and cheat menu will be gone, the current Accessibility will be different, and you would have to make actual saves instead of cheating potions into your pocket to change stats or preferences as how it is possible to do now, so if that is not a problem for other games to have content that requares specific actions to be done and would not be available if you screw up, I think its fair to have similar variation of the content, plus Loya to Logan doesnt have "new interactions" he only have alternative version of the same interactions of what regular whoring around route has
"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex,
Not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run, nor a game where having sex is not the only thing players play for.
(Again, Fan-disk / spin-off / one-shots / side-story is a way better solution specify for this type of situation)

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.
just edit variables that count sex encounters in save editor to zero. i've did so last time there was such scene with Logan
This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
 
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"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex, not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run.

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.

This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
I think the TIME issue is specific to the person, and dev DOESNT have to accommodate to every single player, so if you dont have time to make a separate save then its YOUR problem, not devs
Yes LD is a mess due to it being a first project, so it will have less structure and more mistakes, plus it only made by one person, so dont have high expectation of it being as a more team managed polished game
Dont like that some of the content variation is HARD to get, then enjoy what is available for you, and the fact that game actualy has more romance related stuff doesnt make it worse, people enjoy it so as dev enjoying making,and the whole point of it not being VN is abit stupid, cuz technicaly it is RPG with VN elements, the difference from regular VNs is that it doesnt have linear structure and build from smaller stories/quests that have connection between each other
 

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He does have one ( kinda ), after you obtain 3 hearts with him and do work out with him, instead of working out pick "I just here to watch" and you will get something special
I've seen it but I prefer to be fucked by Top Logan over doing "that"
 
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Well for that one we have to wait abit more :D Cuz to due sheer amount of different characters its gonna be a long breaks in between updates for specific characters
Yeah there's plenty of other characters besides Logan I can get into while waiting for more of his content.
 

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"No one is forbiding you to have separate file only with Loyal Logan content"
Yes there is: TIME.
This is a fairly convoluted sandbox-ish RPG, contents are all about M/M Sex,
Not a liner dating sim / VN that you can easily start another run, nor a game where having sex is not the only thing players play for.
(Again, Fan-disk / spin-off / one-shots / side-story is a way better solution specify for this type of situation)

Let's be honest here, as a "Game" LD is a mess - But it has very high quality porn.
And if they decide to remove the in-game cheats later on, it's an even worse decision since the cheats let players bypass all those poorly designed gameplay elements.

This won't bug out any stuff? Or you just edit when you want to see a specific Virgin scene?
Tho it's just player try to bypass poor game designs... Guess I just hv way to high expectation for them? :(
didn't bug for me, i actually cheat combat with enormous stats all the time
 
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