Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.82.0] [Hyao]

[nackedsnake]

What I hope is that Hyao would reconsider and change his mind about YCH silhouettes in CGs, so we can get more CGs like these to be added to the game, maybe even getting something for a Logan sex scene in the forrest

Let's get it straight, You are not saying "ideally they should replace ZoroJ's art". Cuz That's not right and Hyao agrees: ZoroJ is LD's face.

But you wish they retroactively adding more arts into old scenes, with YCH silhouettes? then it's debatable option.
I agree it's better if they add more arts, if it's feasible.
But I don't agree silhouettes CG is a "Better choice".
Not only cuz of "immersion breaking" (Tho it's still a factor for many people), I find this type of CG very limiting and lacking, lacking in details, lacking in dynamics, lacking in refinement, also it often hinders the scene writing.

TBC, Hyao doesn't give a clear statement about ZoroJ IS the basic Courtesy. It indicates there are more complications than meet the eye that could be talked about.
Or it's simply cuz Hyao is also in the dark Till this day, like you said,
And it doesn't matter anymore since the project is already moved on, for the better.

Like I said again and again, it doesn't matter. The dev doesn't "owe" any explanation to those still salty.
Patreons of Work In Progress Project are not "Paid customers", they subscribe to financially support it.
They are Not entitled to the whole game to be as they wish to be, "Work In Progress Project" means anything could change along the line.

 

[aseknospam]

Let's get it straight, You are not saying "ideally they should replace ZoroJ's art". Cuz That's not right and Hyao agrees: ZoroJ is LD's face.

But you wish they retroactively adding more arts into old scenes, with YCH silhouettes? then it's debatable option.
I agree it's better if they add more arts, if it's feasible.
But I don't agree silhouettes CG is a "Better choice".
Not only cuz of "immersion breaking" (Tho it's still a factor for many people), I find this type of CG very limiting and lacking, lacking in details, lacking in dynamics, lacking in refinement, also it often hinders the scene writing.

TBC, Hyao doesn't give a clear statement about ZoroJ IS the basic Courtesy. It indicates there are more complications than meet the eye that could be talked about.
Or it's simply cuz Hyao is also in the dark Till this day, like you said,
And it doesn't matter anymore since the project is already moved on, for the better.

Like I said again and again, it doesn't matter. The dev doesn't "owe" any explanation to those still salty.
Patreons of Work In Progress Project are not "Paid customers", they subscribe to financially support it.
They are Not entitled to the whole game to be as they wish to be, "Work In Progress Project" means anything could change along the line.

Thats why its idealy statement about replacement since at current moment its simply not possible, but it always better for consistancy sake, if we looking at it as serious project, but as I said its not possible with this one tho its the idealistic solution for any project that are non that deep and not havee huge amount of assets and ofc its always better for artusit that gonna be working on it so they wouldnt have to try and force themself to adjust to previous artists that work on it, pure example of Narram, where he tries to produce works that mimic original artist and they flop miserably, which is the worst mistake that could have been done that damaged his mentaly from all the comparison that he had to see happening in open, but its pointless talk since it was just an example of "perfect" outcome for all that involved and not realistic one for this project.
And in regards silhouettes it gives option to have visual for the scenes that directly involves MC which in turn gives player to see their favorite characters again, cuz due to MC not having design players are limited to the scenes where they see any action either from the side, or exposition shots where MC are not part of the focus, so any interpersonal moments of MC interacting with anyone directly are thrown out of water in visual aspects, especialy one on one scenes with player especialy where MC on bottom side, cuz how many more you can draw character staring at you intently while "fucking" you, or showing of their ass for top MCs, that tendency is easily spoted at the amount of CGs where MC has nothing to do with it like all bottom Logan CGs, Everett, BW CGs

 

[Baralover001]

hope to see new content for nameless orgramm khalgor groth korg orak ste bernard logan hayden blake harold alden arrion black wolf dulrig bowen booner brugo caleb and all the other characters in the game that doesnt have a new content yet

 

[aseknospam]

hope to see new content for nameless orgramm khalgor groth korg orak ste bernard logan hayden blake harold alden arrion black wolf dulrig bowen booner brugo caleb and all the other characters in the game that doesnt have a new content yet

Celeb and BW got new stuff in recent updates

 

[Bluestorm99]

hope to see new content for nameless orgramm khalgor groth korg orak ste bernard logan hayden blake harold alden arrion black wolf dulrig bowen booner brugo caleb and all the other characters in the game that doesnt have a new content yet

That's a long list but I mostly want content for Top Logan, Korg, Groth, Blake, and Alden.
Some more Northcrest Guard or Skullbreaker content would be nice too.
I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the desert content with the Croc village and Kobolds.

 

[Zorrscha]

The difference is with CM and Dyne thy parted ways complitely and right away, with ZoroJ it was complitely different if ZoroJ said he wanted to take a break and comeback to the project but he never did for some reason, which he himself decided to be silenced on and ignore all the question about it and about anything that are related to LD ( that include even simple thank you post that Hyao did about him on social media which he complitely ignore ), so getting distanced from the project was his decidion and not Hyao, so I would give benefit of the doubt to the dev about him being in the dark too and hoped that he would turn around when he will feel like it when he being ignored even in those cases

There was a valid reason for that, ZoroJ kept getting constant requests to do beast content, which he wasn't comfortable doing but there is no point me trying to force you to see it my way if you have your own opinion on the matter, I'm just speaking from perspective after being a patreon to them both for years and speaking to them both in the past

 

[aseknospam]

There was a valid reason for that, ZoroJ kept getting constant requests to do beast content, which he wasn't comfortable doing but there is no point me trying to force you to see it my way if you have your own opinion on the matter, I'm just speaking from perspective after being a patreon to them both for years and speaking to them both in the past

That issues was resolved when Narram was hired as secondary artist who was hired to work alongside with him and as of right now doing all the beast encounter sprites, so it looks more of less valid after it was solved prior to departure

 

[nackedsnake]

Thats why its idealy statement about replacement since at current moment its simply not possible, but it always better for consistancy sake, if we looking at it as serious project, but as I said its not possible with this one tho its the idealistic solution for any project that are non that deep and not havee huge amount of assets and ofc its always better for artusit that gonna be working on it so they wouldnt have to try and force themself to adjust to previous artists that work on it, pure example of Narram, where he tries to produce works that mimic original artist and they flop miserably, which is the worst mistake that could have been done that damaged his mentaly from all the comparison that he had to see happening in open, but its pointless talk since it was just an example of "perfect" outcome for all that involved and not realistic one for this project.
And in regards silhouettes it gives option to have visual for the scenes that directly involves MC which in turn gives player to see their favorite characters again, cuz due to MC not having design players are limited to the scenes where they see any action either from the side, or exposition shots where MC are not part of the focus, so any interpersonal moments of MC interacting with anyone directly are thrown out of water in visual aspects, especialy one on one scenes with player especialy where MC on bottom side, cuz how many more you can draw character staring at you intently while "fucking" you, or showing of their ass for top MCs, that tendency is easily spoted at the amount of CGs where MC has nothing to do with it like all bottom Logan CGs, Everett, BW CGs

No it's not an "ideal statement" to erase ZoroJ, even if "possible". ZoroJ is what makes Lustful Desire Lustful Desire.
Hyao knows that, that's why it's so difficult for him to find new artist.
Artstyle consistency is only a problem when it's in the way or on your face.
It was a big problem before StanG joined, but no longer since their style is close enough.
If you can't understand that, I hv nothing more to add.

Also, both ways to do CG has their limitation:
MC silhouettes destroy the personal touch of the CGs, while some scene can not be drawn in 1st person PoV.
The ideal solution is very simple: Don't limit to one type of CG, Draw accordingly based on the scene.
But don't force MC silhouette into every CG.
Just some simple examples:
You won't get such Up and close feeling if these are "YCH silhouette CG"

But This scene will be difficult to draw if it's First Person PoV:

And this scene is very bad Because of the Unnecessary MC silhouette insert.

 

[aseknospam]

No it's not an "ideal statement" to erase ZoroJ, even if "possible". ZoroJ is what makes Lustful Desire Lustful Desire.
Hyao knows that, that's why it's so difficult for him to find new artist.
Artstyle consistency is only a problem when it's in the way or on your face.
It was a big problem before StanG joined, but no longer since their style is close enough.
If you can't understand that, I hv nothing more to add.

Also, both ways to do CG has their limitation:
MC silhouettes destroy the personal touch of the CGs, while some scene can not be drawn in 1st person PoV.
The ideal solution is very simple: Don't limit to one type of CG, Draw accordingly based on the scene.
But don't force MC silhouette into every CG.
Just some simple examples:
You won't get such Up and close feeling if these are "YCH silhouette CG"
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But This scene will be difficult to draw if it's First Person PoV:
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And this scene is very bad Because of the Unnecessary MC silhouette insert.
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First of all any of bottom scenes for player are literary impossible from first point of view, and I dont see any issue with that Gunnar CG since I able to not pay attention to silhouette, and perfectly focus on the character and the action itself, cuz if you remore silhouetter it would look even more stupid due to realy weird position of the hand in the air for no reason
And noone is saying about adding MC to every CG, only specificaly moments that involve only MC and other character doing something that are not possible to show from first perspective, plus there is already function in the game to turn off CGs that include MC in them, so those who dont like it already have solution for it build in the game

 

[Bluestorm99]

I'm not interested in first person pov bottom scenes because I like seeing the MC getting penetrated by the top.
Stuff like that Khalgor art is what I want to see.

 

[zodiac99]

How to get 2 hearts with Rhot? I only have 1 now

 

[Zorrscha]

That issues was resolved when Narram was hired as secondary artist who was hired to work alongside with him and as of right now doing all the beast encounter sprites, so it looks more of less valid after it was solved prior to departure

ZoroJ actually stopped before Narram was on board, but this can't really be solved unless we directly saw a convo between Hyao and ZoroJ ourselves

 

[aseknospam]

How to get 2 hearts with Rhot? I only have 1 now

You get it by beating it in a Other kind of contest and picking option to him being a pet for a day

 

[aseknospam]

ZoroJ actually stopped before Narram was on board, but this can't really be solved unless we directly saw a convo between Hyao and ZoroJ ourselves

Thats why I refrain from having heavy judgement on both of the sides since we dont know the actual reasoning and either side can have their own issue and demons to go thu, and since they both are decided to be silent about I respect their decidion and not blaming anyone in the outcome, its past gone now, game still continues and thriving despite the outcome, so it doesnt matter at thist point

 

[Uu4]

hope to see new content for nameless orgramm khalgor groth korg orak ste bernard logan hayden blake harold alden arrion black wolf dulrig bowen booner brugo caleb and all the other characters in the game that doesnt have a new content yet

Hope we can fuck nameless

 

[zonihadarkness]

-UPDATE 0.75

-PART 4: VISUAL / AUDIO ASPECTS
StanG’s additions:
• BW x Everett CG (3 variants)
• BW x Alden CG (2 different CGs with one having 2 variants)
• Rhot CG

How do you get the cg variants for Alden? I could only get the BW sitting on him

 

[nackedsnake]

There's a trend that's kinda concerning about all recent scenes:
So fucking in this game is like breathing,
but when you want to hv deeper connection / affection, You just ... Shy Kiss ?
What happened to "more passionate sex"?
Will Hand-holding become illegal next?

 

[Gfetusay]

How to discuss barrel previous visite? I even got him to go upstairs in the tavern but this option never pops up

 

[GoldenStag]

How do you get the cg variants for Alden? I could only get the BW sitting on him

The cgs for for BW/Alden are:
1. BW with Alden's cock in front of his face
2. BW sitting on Alden's cock
3. The same as the previous but they're both cumming.

There's no way to miss them that I can see.

How to discuss barrel previous visite? I even got him to go upstairs in the tavern but this option never pops up

Has Barrel broken into your house in Bareshade while you're sleeping?

 

[aseknospam]

How to discuss barrel previous visite? I even got him to go upstairs in the tavern but this option never pops up

Okay so alot of people have an issue with it since to get actual break in scene is abit of hard to know about, in order to get that scene you need to participate in Wrestling at the fair, and get a chance to pair up against Barrel, and you will have a choice to win agains him or to let him win ( not sure if the outcome will change what comes next or not but I decided to win ) and after that Barrel suggest rematch at your house and you can invite him for a wresling at you housein bed , and after you done with it, there is a chance that at night Barrel might break in at night while you asleep and do stuff, and you can have a talk with him about it later, and after you talk with him about it he will be available to invite on fair for firewarks event.
Alot of people got wrong idea of him visiting you at night is him breaking in, but that isjust his visit and not actual break in moment