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Tails943

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Which two characters are you talking about? Khalgor and Orgram/Groth/Korg? I don't think fighting Mirage will prevent future interactions with Khalgor. If anything, it looks like it will be possible for him to side with you against her since she has killed some of his men. If you are talking about Vicoria and Feliar, if your relationship with them is high enough (I assume that's how it works; mine was around 80 for both, but I assume the cut off would be around 50?), they will both betray Mirage and fight with you.

Edit: I looked through the code, they will join the player against Mirage if you get a certain number of hidden points with them. You get the hidden points if your relationship with them is high enough (over 60 or over 30) and if you treated them nicely in general (trusted Feliar, invited him to the fair, gave Vicoria gifts, satisfied her when rescuing Ste, etc.).
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Here's the relevant portion of code that calculates the hidden points:

if vicoria_relation.like >=60:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5
elif vicoria_relation.like >=30:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 3
if suc_vic_gift.limit >= 2:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5
if suc_vic_ste.number >= 5:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5


If the explanations.limit value is greater than or equal to 10, then Vicoria will switch sides. I haven't really investigated all of the variables, but I assume the gift one has to do with giving her all of the possible gifts. The romance novels in particular have a special scene if you gift them twice. The Ste value might have to do with rescuing Ste by satisfying her (I did it by inviting Arion) and not by force. I think the easiest way to get her on your side is just to spam gifts at her, the like limit with them is 70, iirc (giving her a romance novel the second time gives her a flat 10 like, which is how I got to 80 with her). But if you want to save time, you can just edit the values in Save Editor: set vicoria_relation.like above 60, gift.limit above 2, ste.number above 5.

Edit: OK, I just looked through the code to confirm things. suc_vic_ste.number is set to 5 only if you take Arion with you to satisfy her. suc_vic_gift.limit is set to 2 when you gift her the romance novel the second time. If you did either of these and have her like above or at 60, she should switch sides. If you are editing your save file, you should probably set gift.limit to 2 and ste.number to 5, anything higher might break something, since these aren't meant to go above these values, I think.
 
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Polarthief

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So I'm gonna guess android and ios isn't ever getting an update at this point?
Android update usually comes a few days later after the normal update, along with a bugfix, but people are just forgetting to upload it. Hell there was literally an Android update for v0.60 last month. Here's proof on his Patreon via Kemono: 1702572366636.png

You could always throw him a single dollar to get the update yourself if no one else is going to post it.
PS: Before you ask: No those download links do not work on Kemono, they just redirect you to Patreon.
 

Tails943

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Here's the relevant portion of code that calculates the hidden points:

if vicoria_relation.like >=60:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5
elif vicoria_relation.like >=30:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 3
if suc_vic_gift.limit >= 2:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5
if suc_vic_ste.number >= 5:
$ suc_vic_explanations.limit += 5


If the explanations.limit value is greater than or equal to 10, then Vicoria will switch sides. I haven't really investigated all of the variables, but I assume the gift one has to do with giving her all of the possible gifts. The romance novels in particular have a special scene if you gift them twice. The Ste value might have to do with rescuing Ste by satisfying her (I did it by inviting Arion) and not by force. I think the easiest way to get her on your side is just to spam gifts at her, the like limit with them is 70, iirc (giving her a romance novel the second time gives her a flat 10 like, which is how I got to 80 with her). But if you want to save time, you can just edit the values in Save Editor: set vicoria_relation.like above 60, gift.limit above 2, ste.number above 5.

Edit: OK, I just looked through the code to confirm things. suc_vic_ste.number is set to 5 only if you take Arion with you to satisfy her. suc_vic_gift.limit is set to 2 when you gift her the romance novel the second time. If you did either of these and have her like above or at 60, she should switch sides.
It worked! Thank you very much!
 
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Bruhdashcon

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Can confirm one of Feliar's requirements to gain favour in his battle is his and Everetts dates. Also I'd recommend giving him gifts and doing the fair date. I skimmed over him so I didn't get him on my side the first time.
 

Kodi

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I wish we could get some flying mount to fast travel to all the areas and bypass the cave system altogether. It's so tedious.
 
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gerrrmalope

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*Spoilers*

it kinda sucks that you lose the swamp witch as a vendor since she's a helpful source of regents you aren't able to grow in your garden, at that point in the game do you have a similar regent vendor or is that just the penalty of losing favor with her and you just gotta hold that L if you wanna be on the orc's side.
 
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So I'm gonna guess android and ios isn't ever getting an update at this point?
I try to post them all, working and going to school full time, I tend to forget, and mostly its android. like one of the other comments says it's only a dollar. But here yea go, sorry for neglecting you (I will admit I might neglect you again and again. Sorry in advance!) (HUGS!!)

 
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