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Here's the android version

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Did you guys having problem to install the apk? Because I had an issue it doesn't installed

Edit: it works I uninstalled the app and reinstalled the new one, thank god I backup my save files
 
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This is a very different situation from scrap / blake. If Hyao open up FMC only sex for Groth, it'll be a whole different can of worm.
Very Similar to Virgin Logan situation: So the game force you to go thru the whole slog Again, just for a single fuckable NPC? Now Hyao needs to add more FMC exclusive contents to justify it. (Same as they need to add way more Virgin Logan contents in to justify that route).
Any form of Cheat (Potion) does not count.

If Groth ends up to be a straight NPC that has side contents with other NPC (Namely rose) but no sexual contents with MC / Or he's bi (Tho he never forward towards male, just some very light tease), it'll be a very different story. Then again he never confirmed to be "only interested in female".

Or, like I said before, If Hyao really wants to commit without messing up the whole frame, just makes a fan-disk.
Just varedit, that's how I keep my corrupted lizards in prison while still being able to play.
 

daniaxxx

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This is a very different situation from scrap / blake. If Hyao open up FMC only sex for Groth, it'll be a whole different can of worm.
Very Similar to Virgin Logan situation: So the game force you to go thru the whole slog Again, just for a single fuckable NPC? Now Hyao needs to add more FMC exclusive contents to justify it. (Same as they need to add way more Virgin Logan contents in to justify that route).
Any form of Cheat (Potion) does not count.

If Groth ends up to be a straight NPC that has side contents with other NPC (Namely rose) but no sexual contents with MC / Or he's bi (Tho he never forward towards male, just some very light tease), it'll be a very different story. Then again he never confirmed to be "only interested in female".

Or, like I said before, If Hyao really wants to commit without messing up the whole frame, just makes a fan-disk.
If you wanna play as a virgin for logan it’s gonna hard I have a female virgin play , even during the last update there is something about how he small only himself on you , the problem is I didn’t advance in the wolf story line as it requires you to spend a night with Bernie ‍♂
 

nackedsnake

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If you wanna play as a virgin for logan it’s gonna hard I have a female virgin play , even during the last update there is something about how he small only himself on you , the problem is I didn’t advance in the wolf story line as it requires you to spend a night with Bernie ‍♂
Instead of "Hard" it's more about "deny yourself contents" - to virgin for Logan, you sacrifice all other contents this game offers, yet virgin for Logan doesn't give much contents itself. (You can just avoid sleepin with Bernie)

Yeah all these ideas are very interesting, and more contents should always be nice.
But this is textbook example of "Scope Creep", the most deadly sin every dev should be avoiding.

If Groth end up being an un-sexable straight NPC (as a waste of a beef-cake as it is), it actually adds to the world building: the world exists beyond MC, not every creature is player-sexual.

The advantage of Fan-disk / Side-story, is the dev can let loose of all their creative ideas, yet leave the game intact.
Or they can save up all the ideas for future use.
 

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If Groth end up being an un-sexable straight NPC (as a waste of a beef-cake as it is), it actually adds to the world building: the world exists beyond MC, not every creature is player-sexual.
I'd normally agree but it's a gay sex game (well mostly) so taking away a potential romance interest isn't gonna go down well and considering the failure of the story atm just a bad call in general

When you compile the story over the years it's litro Werewolves/Lizards/Scar the rest has been sides with little to no actual relevance to the story so no point "World Building" by this point
 

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I'd normally agree but it's a gay sex game (well mostly) so taking away a potential romance interest isn't gonna go down well and considering the failure of the story atm just a bad call in general

When you compile the story over the years it's litro Werewolves/Lizards/Scar the rest has been sides with little to no actual relevance to the story so no point "World Building" by this point
Yeah the game is a mess in more than one way.
I'm not sure where Hyao want this game to go: A cohesive porn game with rich contents (that'll be completed somneday), or just porn hub fest in game form.
Tho World building comes a long way. Like there are so much Rose contents even tho she's not even sex-able.
I will also be disappointed if Hyao takes Groth away - not surprised, giving how Groth conducts himself so far.
They really need to tread this carefully.
 
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Zorrscha

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Yeah the game is a mess in more than one way.
I'm not sure where Hyao want this game to go: A cohesive porn game with rich contents (that'll be completed somneday), or just porn hub fest in game form.
Tho World building comes a long way. Like there are so much Rose contents even tho she's not even sex-able.
I will also be disappointed if Hyao takes Groth away - not surprised, giving how Groth conducts himself so far.
They really need to tread this carefully.
Ngl I kinda lost interest the moment Gunnar "died" there hasn't been any chars as kinky as that, would of preferred joining Gunnar/Scar/Tank as a main story than this bs they running with now
 
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nackedsnake

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Ngl I kinda lost interest the moment Gunnar "died" there hasn't been any chars as kinky as that, would of preferred joining Gunnar/Scar/Tank as a main story than this bs they running with now
Exploring this train of thought, there are really so much mess up.
Maybe this game shouldn't really be taken seriously, just a Kink fest however the dev feels like. But Hyao really gives me the "diligent dev" vibe who's genuinely trying to make a good game.

Like the Virgin to Logan route. Logan was a Jealous straight who had a wife. Wants monogamy is one thing, but "Virgin"? Almost like those with virgin fetish and only fuck virgins, It's humiliating on the receiving end.
And if the "Only ever expressed interest in Female" Groth fucks a male MC, it really feels like "Pity Sex".
Maybe all of these are for those who's into humiliation :KEK:?
Yeah, Gunnar's death is totally pointless, nothing've come out of it till this point. You don't just kill beloved character for no reason unless that's the theme of the game.
 

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Exploring this train of thought, there are really so much mess up.
Maybe this game shouldn't really be taken seriously, just a Kink fest however the dev feels like. But Hyao really gives me the "diligent dev" vibe who's genuinely trying to make a good game.

Like the Virgin to Logan route. Logan was a Jealous straight who had a wife. Wants monogamy is one thing, but "Virgin"? Almost like those with virgin fetish and only fuck virgins, It's humiliating on the receiving end.
And if the "Only ever expressed interest in Female" Groth fucks a male MC, it really feels like "Pity Sex".
Maybe all of these are for those who's into humiliation :KEK:?
Yeah, Gunnar's death is totally pointless, nothing've come out of it till this point. You don't just kill beloved character for no reason unless that's the theme of the game.
Lol I dunno how did you come to the conclusion that remaining virgin for one character till you get with him is humiliation, the whole point of that "route", tho I wouldnt even call it a route since you dont get anything unique in terms of interactions, its just an alternative version of same interactions that you get when you sleep with everything, the whole point of it is loyalty to him, and in return you getting just different flavor text, istead of him tell that he know you sleep around cuz he smell them, he just tell you that he doesnt and he appritiate it and wants you more because of that, thats it, its just a different flavor of the same actions, like having variation for submissive bottoms/tops in some of the sex scenes that are in the game, you are not missing out on content itself by not doing it
PS: it called Virgin route not cuz Logan wants you to be virgin or notice it or something, he never even coment about it, it was just a name that was given by the community cuz you have to remain virgin before Trouble in the den quest moment
 
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Lol I dunno how did you come to the conclusion that remaining virgin for one character till you get with him is humiliation, the whole point of that "route", tho I wouldnt even call it a route since you dont get anything unique in terms of interactions, its just an alternative version of same interactions that you get when you sleep with everything, the whole point of it is loyalty to him, and in return you getting just different flavor text, istead of him tell that he know you sleep around cuz he smell them, he just tell you that he doesnt and he appritiate it and wants you more because of that, thats it, its just a different flavor of the same actions, like having variation for submissive bottoms/tops in some of the sex scenes that are in the game, you are not missing out on content itself by not doing it
PS: it called Virgin route not cuz Logan wants you to be virgin or notice it or something, he never even coment about it, it was just a name that was given by the community cuz you have to remain virgin before Trouble in the den quest moment
Yeah it's humiliating you need to sacrifice all (game contents) just for his unequal term approval.
  1. Logan himself is not a Virgin
  2. You need to be a Virgin to initiate the whole chain of event
  3. You dont even hv the chance to be "Loyal to him", if you had sex before the virgin check, before you know him
  4. He's not the first NPC you meet in the game, and the virgin check is way beyond the starting point.
  5. Yes he has unique scenes for virgins
  6. How much contents in this route is irrelevant, as long as Hyao continue to add more. It becomes a problem when it's no longer a one-off, and remain a problem until Hyao add so much contents in that warrants a whole unique play-through (Then again, scope creep)
Edit: That reminds me, If it's only a remark that based on your local Fame, then it's a different story.
Or just a check if you had sex with others between your interact with Logan.
 
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Did you guys having problem to install the apk? Because I had an issue it doesn't installed

Edit: it works I uninstalled the app and reinstalled the new one, thank god I backup my save files
For me it's work, I did installed it's was work so nothing anything weird or glitch also problem doesn't installed
 

aseknospam

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Yeah it's humiliating you need to sacrifice all (game contents) just for his unequal term approval.
  1. Logan himself is not a Virgin
  2. You need to be a Virgin to initiate the whole chain of event
  3. You dont even hv the chance to be "Loyal to him", if you had sex before the virgin check, before you know him
  4. He's not the first NPC you meet in the game, and the virgin check is way beyond the starting point.
  5. Yes he has unique scenes for virgins
  6. How much contents in this route is irrelevant, as long as Hyao continue to add more. It becomes a problem when it's no longer a one-off, and remain a problem until Hyao add so much contents in that warrants a whole unique play-through (Then again, scope creep)
Edit: That reminds me, If it's only a remark that based on your local Fame, then it's a different story.
Or just a check if you had sex with others between your interact with Logan.
Since when being interested only in one character / person is considered as humiliation? What are odd standarts are these?
The whole point of the route is not Virginity itself, cuz after you have a sex scene with him you are not a virgin anymore, so its not main point of the route for some reason you realy put a big emphasis on it when its not main point, it a specific content that is specificaly for people who want to limit themself and they get something in return, if you dont want that then noone is forcing you to do it, it doesnt interfere with anything else that is available, just cuz you dont find it appealing for you cuz you have to limit yourself doesnt mean there arent people who like it more, it just one of the preferences, cuz technicaly everyone can say same points about content they dont like or find offencive, like if someone dont like Domination / Humiliation ( which include Gunnar, Maul, Sabal ) it doesnt mean that this content shouldnt exist, people just have a choice to not interact with it at all
And no he doesnt have specificaly unique interactions in that route, only altered text of same interaction you get in other route, literary Hyao confirmed it, it just different flavor text and nothing more special to it
 

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Did you guys having problem to install the apk? Because I had an issue it doesn't installed

Edit: it works I uninstalled the app and reinstalled the new one, thank god I backup my save files
I'm still struggling I can't even download it bcuz of the inf amount of pop-ups-
 
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