Ren'Py Lustful Desires [v0.83.0 G] [Hyao]

[Bubblegum73]

If there is one thing I loathe in RenPy games it's when the author decides to take away the possibility of reloading and picking another option.

The author did just that with one of the big villains in the game. Who apparently is so powerful that he can see my attempts at reloading and picking a different choice in the dialogue - which he wont allow. The villain even told me to "stop messing with my save files". Yes, very funny (the first time you encounter that, after that it's all just frustration).

Now dear author, when you do this, this makes me incredibly frustrated and it gives me two choices:
1.) I am going to either figure out how to delete such persistent variables in RenPy games with help of this community
or
2.) I am going to stop playing your game altogether.

This is so frustrating. It killed all the love I had for hits game in one instance. It's not the first time I experienced this.

The last time was years ago in a different game. I know it has to do with RenPy persistent variables. Is anyone familiar with this?
How can I solve this problem? I really do want to reload and be able to pick another option.

Also this was a trap by the author:
Like I could reload and pick a different option, two times. And the third time was the worst option I could choose (serving the big villain). And then reloading and taking a different option didn't work anymore. So my hero is stuck wanting to serve the villain and reloading doesnt work. And the author feels probably very smug about this.

 

[nackedsnake]

If there is one thing I loathe in RenPy games it's when the author decides to take away the possibility of reloading and picking another option.

The author did just that with one of the big villains in the game. Who apparently is so powerful that he can see my attempts at reloading and picking a different choice in the dialogue - which he wont allow. The villain even told me to "stop messing with my save files". Yes, very funny (the first time you encounter that, after that it's all just frustration).

Now dear author, when you do this, this makes me incredibly frustrated and it gives me two choices:
1.) I am going to either figure out how to delete such persistent variables in RenPy games with help of this community
or
2.) I am going to stop playing your game altogether.

This is so frustrating. It killed all the love I had for hits game in one instance. It's not the first time I experienced this.

The last time was years ago in a different game. I know it has to do with RenPy persistent variables. Is anyone familiar with this?
How can I solve this problem? I really do want to reload and be able to pick another option.

Also this was a trap by the author:
Like I could reload and pick a different option, two times. And the third time was the worst option I could choose (serving the big villain). And then reloading and taking a different option didn't work anymore. So my hero is stuck wanting to serve the villain and reloading doesnt work. And the author feels probably very smug about this.

In case you didn't realise, most devs don't visit this site for random opinions.

If it makes you feel better, that choice doesn't matter at all, because nothing come out of it.
It was in fact a very interesting idea and has tons of potential if expanded upon, but end up without any meaningful followups, like most ideas in this game.

In fact, choices in this game don't matter, in that you either have the "right choice" so the game continues, or the "wrong choice" that lead to paths that sooner or later will be abandoned by the dev.

 

[Bubblegum73]

In case you didn't realise, most devs don't visit this site for random opinions.

If it makes you feel better, that choice doesn't matter at all, because nothing come out of it.
It was in fact a very interesting idea and has tons of potential if expanded upon, but end up without any meaningful followups, like most ideas in this game.

In fact, choices in this game don't matter, in that you either have the "right choice" so the game continues, or the "wrong choice" that lead to paths that sooner or later will be abandoned by the dev.

Heh, thank you, I appreciate your time and effort.

I was very very frustrated at that moment and I needed to vent. A lot. Of course, I know the author won't read my message.
And even if he did. The way the villain is written it's pretty clear that the author enjoys what he did there.

If you try to change this choice by reloading the villain will mock you.
If you go into your save files and delete the "persistent" file the villain will mock you even more in the game.
So the author even considered that and made probably several back-ups / fail-safes just to make sure that that one choice could never be reversed.

Now I would need to get into coding with renpy and find the places in the code where he assured reloading wouldn't work.
Alas, I do not have time for that.

I do not think an author or a developer should tinker with the players ability to reload in such a way. This is immersion breaking for me.
For now I am going to delete the game and maybe come back in a few years. Maybe it was even this very game where I stumbled upon this phenomenon the first time.

I am aware what kind of site we are on.
In this case I am very very glad I didn't spend money on this game.

 

[Kessel Gilmore]

I hate swapping characters. Every time I have to play as another character for a memory or as a cheat safe I want to fucking kill Hyao for making me waste time into optimizing the main character just for nothing. I hope that after so many players told him they hated the Black Wolf subplot and the memories' stuff he changed his mind about character swapping because it makes me want to quit the game and it's tedious to even skip to the scenes.

 

[nackedsnake]

I hate swapping characters. Every time I have to play as another character for a memory or as a cheat safe I want to fucking kill Hyao for making me waste time into optimizing the main character just for nothing. I hope that after so many players told him they hated the Black Wolf subplot and the memories' stuff he changed his mind about character swapping because it makes me want to quit the game and it's tedious to even skip to the scenes.

Sry you just want to jack off to some bara porn, but the Black Wolf arc is great, the Logan character swap is great, It's a great tool to tell interesting stories from different POV.

And it's definitely not "so many players hated the Black Wolf subplot", in fact you are the first one I saw who complains about it, Menacingly
Also if it's not for you, just leave. Nobody cares if you quit or not.

 

[Zorrscha]

I hate swapping characters. Every time I have to play as another character for a memory or as a cheat safe I want to fucking kill Hyao for making me waste time into optimizing the main character just for nothing. I hope that after so many players told him they hated the Black Wolf subplot and the memories' stuff he changed his mind about character swapping because it makes me want to quit the game and it's tedious to even skip to the scenes.

Hyao has disappointed the majority of long term fans, from killing a fan favourite to never keeping consistent story plot continuation, evil route never continued, octodaddy vanished and they hard focus on nothing but filler.

I personally gave up this game after Gunnar staying dead, since I thought it was gonna be a bait to keep people interested in the story but (But saying you want to kill the dude is a bit crazy just fap to something else)

 

[Longfang]

I personally gave up this game after Gunnar staying dead, since I thought it was gonna be a bait to keep people interested in the story but (But saying you want to kill the dude is a bit crazy just fap to something else)

Wait Gunnar is dead dead? I haven't touched the game in a long time, I thought it was just a storyline thing and he was going to come back. Did Hyao explain why he decided to kill him or is it just some shock value thing?

 

[Long fan]

Non-paying fans cannot be considered valuable, so their loss will not affect the direction the game takes.

 

[Zorrscha]

Wait Gunnar is dead dead? I haven't touched the game in a long time, I thought it was just a storyline thing and he was going to come back. Did Hyao explain why he decided to kill him or is it just some shock value thing?

Apparently it was always intended, but he gave no care about the fanbase wanting him to come back so he made Maul the new version, which didn't sit right with me at all, my only interest from the start of the game was eventually trying to soften Gunnar up and I LOVED his kinky af content.

 

[Bubblegum73]

Non-paying fans cannot be considered valuable, so their loss will not affect the direction the game takes.

Writing off non-paying fans as 'not valuable' ignores the fact that every paying supporter starts as a non-paying fan. Losing them now means losing future support — and that does affect the direction the game takes.

 

[Long fan]

Writing off non-paying fans as 'not valuable' ignores the fact that every paying supporter starts as a non-paying fan. Losing them now means losing future support — and that does affect the direction the game takes.

That's a weak argument, those who like his work pay to see the game a month in advance, and when enough of them make their opinion known they can influence the author, listening to complaints from those who don't contribute anything is unnecessary, giving criticism and opinions is one thing, waiting for free content and being a bitter person is annoying at best.

 

[Zorrscha]

That's a weak argument, those who like his work pay to see the game a month in advance, and when enough of them make their opinion known they can influence the author, listening to complaints from those who don't contribute anything is unnecessary, giving criticism and opinions is one thing, waiting for free content and being a bitter person is annoying at best.

I mean I supported them from the start on Patreon until ZoroJ vanished from the project without a single word from Hyao, does that give me permission to bitch?

 

[hakubr]

That's a weak argument, those who like his work pay to see the game a month in advance, and when enough of them make their opinion known they can influence the author, listening to complaints from those who don't contribute anything is unnecessary, giving criticism and opinions is one thing, waiting for free content and being a bitter person is annoying at best.

Yeah, but that's a pretty weak take. You don't have to be a paying customer to see a product is a mess.

The game's story has been all over the place for years, with no clear direction and ignoring its own plots. Even for constant paying fans. There was probably 40+ characters that could be fan favourites being developted and were not.

Nobody has asked for another crocodile tribe that will also not go anywhere. That's not bitterness, it's just obvious. When something keeps getting worse, people are going to call it out, whether they paid for it or not. That's not being entitled, it's having common sense. Your point would be valid if any other actual paying fan has hot his ideas to show up in the game, which is not what has been happening at all for many years.

 

[Uu4]

Yeah, but that's a pretty weak take. You don't have to be a paying customer to see a product is a mess.

The game's story has been all over the place for years, with no clear direction and ignoring its own plots. Even for constant paying fans. There was probably 40+ characters that could be fan favourites being developted and were not.

Nobody has asked for another crocodile tribe that will also not go anywhere. That's not bitterness, it's just obvious. When something keeps getting worse, people are going to call it out, whether they paid for it or not. That's not being entitled, it's having common sense. Your point would be valid if any other actual paying fan has hot his ideas to show up in the game, which is not what has been happening at all for many years.

Bruh, theres many of us that wants him to get back to the existing story, some that isn't as done as step one

 

[FugginDamaged]

I think the problem is that the behavior of only paying attention to small content in the now moment generates a lot of problems for future, and sometimes it is a route that a few other creators take before switching from making game content to making filler content just for the sake of having something.

So even if that is not the route Hyao is going to be following soon, tho it does generate some red flags about the content he has right now, a lot of it is unfinished and a part of it was tied to collabs, so it could still go somewhere but we don't know that, and he needs to show that in his behavior if public perception is to change

 

[Furbeardead]

Please tell me, I periodically quit the game, and now I don’t understand what to do, I downloaded the save, returned from a snowy area, and I don’t understand what to do next. What quests could I complete? Why hasn't anything been added to the orc village?

 

[rindogknot]

To break the negativity a bit, while I agree that the scope creep is a problem I don't really agree on some of the more doom and gloom opinions in here, it is still an extremely high quality porn game and brings good content relatively consistently.

Hyao is also a relatively good dev when it comes to community and such, just look at Lust Odyssey and its horrible dev.


I don't think that there ever will be a 'perfect' game and dev especially considering most games here are hobby projects that gained traction we shouldn't paint the devil on the wall non-stop.

This is just my Opinion and not target at anyone directly and so on, I just feel that we might need a bit more positivity in here.

 

[Zorrscha]

just look at Lust Odyssey and its horrible dev.

I'm sorry but how are they different in anyway? Both of them decided to listen to fans and entirely fk up the content schedule, least LO still has a plot planned which is way more that can be said for LD

One just monetizes exact content produced as where the other just baits a story that never comes, Hyao is deffo not "better" both have been pretty crap in clear cut content and take tangents due to fan input

 

[Polarthief]

I'm sorry but how are they different in anyway? Both of them decided to listen to fans and entirely fk up the content schedule, least LO still has a plot planned which is way more that can be said for LD

One just monetizes exact content produced as where the other just baits a story that never comes, Hyao is deffo not "better" both have been pretty crap in clear cut content and take tangents due to fan input

Not OP but I'd argue Hyao firstly charges pennies and he doesn't "give in" to his patrons. It's more he gets too many ideas and never bothers finishing any of them, vs LO Dev who has completely shifted his own views on his game and it has turned into what his Boring Normie Human-Lovers Patrons have voted to turn it into. Reminder that it's a SPACE/ALIEN & MONSTER-FUCKER game whose new content is like 90~95%+ Humans only. Hyao at least delivers not purely what the wallet demands (doubly so when Bestiality is a no-no on Patreon).

TL;DRish:
- LD is still very much the same game that it originally was, just with some dead-end splintered off paths. Hyao gets too many ideas and never finishes them, but he didn't change the base game to something unrecognizable.
- LO has went from primarily monster/alien characters to primarily humans. He's completely sold out the core concept of the game to the highest bidders.

 

[Zorrscha]

- LD is still very much the same game that it originally was, just with some dead-end splintered off paths. Hyao gets too many ideas and never finishes them, but he didn't change the base game to something unrecognizable.

If you consider them killing off a fan fave and changing the artists "the same" sure, and saying Hyao gets too many ideas to finish one is just a flat cop-out sorry, if everybody had that mindset NO games would ever reach completion.

The writing is stale, the sex is vanilla and boring now, least LO kept up with the kinky writing as where LD is just a snooze fest that forced me to play as some random after watching my fave character get offed because Hyao thought fk the fans