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strangecircle

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I'm calling it now that Zoroj is gonna quit on Lustful Desires once the Orc storyline is over. If not his role is going to be extremely minimalized. At first I thought Zoroj was gonna be the main character/CG artist while Narram was going to be the enemies artist but it looks like its slowly not the case. Also, I think Hyao needs to hire an artist that actually likes drawing women because besides Rose you can tell ZoroJ does not enjoy drawing women lol.

I also think the island storyline is just Hyao stalling the fans and waiting for Zoroj to finish anything in the Orc/Northcrest storyline. Which is really just showing how much Narram can do when in charge cause he's gonna have sprites for 6 new characters done in 1 update which is insane. And either I'm just getting used to it or he is constantly improving with every new sprite.

But back to ZoroJ I think at first having mental breaks/slowing down was fine but at this point a year in as much as I hate to say it its kind of his job to make art for the game he's getting paid for it and he doesn't even do commissions. And if he can't draw his favorite thing to draw which is orcs then I don't think we are gonna get more of him after the northcrest storyline. And then maybe a month or 2 after his departure Hyao is gonna hire another artist who can do both humans and furries. Any ideas?

BTW my favorite characters are Xeroth and Arion and my only wish is that they would have more twunk characters I love the big beefy guys of course but twunks like those 2 would be nice as well.
 
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PaleAngel_90

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You are very aggressive to label us as "whining brat" by twisting our words, and then you just repeat what we complained about....Nice try :ROFLMAO: . So you think we say it is "whining", but comes from your mouth it somehow becomes "constructive"?

Not a single time I complained "the update don't have the contents I want", I was commenting on the updates that didn't have contents.
And ofc you will conveniently not know, I praised these two past updates in my comments as they have substantial contents. Surprise, I actually enjoying most contents they add in - when there are contents. And no, 2 NSFW Pictures are not "substantial contents".
But that's like 2 out of 12 months. How convenient you use them as proof for "The game is progressing".

If Hyao stick to one area to (at least) near finish, then move onto the next, no one will complain about Lizards, Northcrest, werewolves, rats, Orcs, Nameless, etc.
But instead, He dug so many holes without filling any, so that leaves everyone hanging without any closure. OFC everyone will complain. That's the problem he created himself.

And Why Tao Lovers need to wait for so long to Finally have the chance to have their fun?

And how long Hyao plan to spend on developing this game? 20 more years? Because none of existing (meaningless) additions has any substantial development to them. Your "For the Future" talk is just as hollow.

Anyway, it's no point to argue with you, I'm just bored as there's only "a quick read" in the patch notes.
Wholeheartedly agree with you. We don't need Hyao apologists or simps. There's no excuse for the almost nonexistant content that's been going on.
 

TrashBandit

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Reduce your sanity with insanity potion, and lose to the Ragroach without bringing Tao with you. Whenever there's a bad end with a mob it usually requires having low sanity.
you also get it by having the corrupted states from the corrupted lizards
 

SPACE!man

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Could everybody, please, stop complaining the game isn't getting developed in a worthwhile way? Every other month I feel like I'm getting 5000 notifications of people slagging it off and like 2 which actually relate to the game or a download.

We get it, you hate the lack of development of major plotlines and a collection of random minor sex things added constantly. We've been aware of your feelings for the last two years. But complaining about the same thing over and over isn't going to change things.

So please, enough with the slagathon. It's exhausting.
 

nackedsnake

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iirc it depends on how you defeated tank the first time you fought. Cause i gotten Service top tank and he doesn't do that.
You can change Tank's status with a potion, that part of Tank's addition is quite good, Service/Dominate Top/Bottom all have good scenes, and you can just change at whim to see them all, no need to start a different playthru.
Could everybody, please, stop complaining the game isn't getting developed in a worthwhile way? Every other month I feel like I'm getting 5000 notifications of people slagging it off and like 2 which actually relate to the game or a download.

We get it, you hate the lack of development of major plotlines and a collection of random minor sex things added constantly. We've been aware of your feelings for the last two years. But complaining about the same thing over and over isn't going to change things.

So please, enough with the slagathon. It's exhausting.
That's Fair.
Tho I wonder why Hyao is doing this.
  • Creator's block/Burn out, so Hyao keep trying to throw out new things to see where it clicks;
  • Trying to expand the width as large as possible, so to incentivise "patreon voting" / "commision". Flexible Survivals is actually doing sth similar;
  • Hyao has some issue with the artists; and now he plan to soft-reset to develop around Narram's arts;
  • He just get used to and settled in this "selling monthly art pack" approach;
  • He don't know how to continue, but is not willing to end.
Wonder if there's someone here has inside knowledge of his development :unsure:
 

Zorrscha

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Hyao should of gone on Hiatus with ZoroJ, Maybe they fell out because I knew they were friends and in the creative world disagreements lead to shiz like this like with DyneWulf and CursedMarked
 

LeperDrag

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Could everybody, please, stop complaining the game isn't getting developed in a worthwhile way? Every other month I feel like I'm getting 5000 notifications of people slagging it off and like 2 which actually relate to the game or a download.

We get it, you hate the lack of development of major plotlines and a collection of random minor sex things added constantly. We've been aware of your feelings for the last two years. But complaining about the same thing over and over isn't going to change things.

So please, enough with the slagathon. It's exhausting.
You could just block or ignore notifications, complaining about complaining is stupid and unproductive. People complain because there's reason for it
 
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SPACE!man

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You can change Tank's status with a potion, that part of Tank's addition is quite good, Service/Dominate Top/Bottom all have good scenes, and you can just change at whim to see them all, no need to start a different playthru.

That's Fair.
Tho I wonder why Hyao is doing this.
  • Creator's block/Burn out, so Hyao keep trying to throw out new things to see where it clicks;
  • Trying to expand the width as large as possible, so to incentivise "patreon voting" / "commision". Flexible Survivals is actually doing sth similar;
  • Hyao has some issue with the artists; and now he plan to soft-reset to develop around Narram's arts;
  • He just get used to and settled in this "selling monthly art pack" approach;
  • He don't know how to continue, but is not willing to end.
Wonder if there's someone here has inside knowledge of his development :unsure:
I personally think it's just a "please everyone" issue. Tons of people love the caravan guard, but then they also want Nameless but Nameless is an endgame plot. But then you have the rats, which offer a new island and new characters and a dungeon, but then you have the Lizards people wanna fuck.

It's the opposite of "too many cooks", it's "too many broths flood the kitchen".
You could just block or ignore notifications, complaining about complaining is stupid and unproductive. People complain because there's reason for it
I can't block or ignore them though, else any actual news about the game would also be blocked too. Besides, complaining about complaining is no stupider than complaining about the same thing, en mass, for a month straight. I get that people are sick of the slow developement, but they've been complaining since before Nameless about the same problem.
 

nackedsnake

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I personally think it's just a "please everyone" issue. Tons of people love the caravan guard, but then they also want Nameless but Nameless is an endgame plot. But then you have the rats, which offer a new island and new characters and a dungeon, but then you have the Lizards people wanna fuck.

It's the opposite of "too many cooks", it's "too many broths flood the kitchen".
That's exactly the problem Hyao keep creating for himself, I was asking the reason behind it.
And how does keep adding new "Thin-as-water broths" help solve the flood?

Why people complain? Cuz there's not single one closure to any of the contents (mind you there are so many branches), people can't move on, but there's nothing for them to lingering on.
You don't hear people complain the same issue in Tavern of Spear or TiTs, cuz those games finish one parts before moving onto the next;
You also don't hear people complain it in Flexible Survival, cuz there are a lot of writes working on different branches.

It's fine to have one or two Nameless type "teaser" to set-up during the whole cause; but in LD all contents are this way - does that mean all contents are End-game plots?
It's also fine to have few recurring sex buddies to drop a few spicy here and there, Hyao actually handles the caravan guard Gunnar well in this regard.

I can't block or ignore them though, else any actual news about the game would also be blocked too. Besides, complaining about complaining is no stupider than complaining about the same thing, en mass, for a month straight. I get that people are sick of the slow developement, but they've been complaining since before Nameless about the same problem.
You could just block or ignore notifications, complaining about complaining is stupid and unproductive. People complain because there's reason for it
Yeah keep complaining the same issue (which has no solution) forever does become annoying, but sometimes people just can't help it. So let's not dwelling on it.
That said it's not a perfect solution but dudelookingforstuff you can ignore people who keeps complaining.
 
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You could just block or ignore notifications, complaining about complaining is stupid and unproductive. People complain because there's reason for it
What is the point of keep complaining in a fucking porn piracy forum instead of disc/patreon channels while flooding other people notifications by saying "JuSt IgNoRe BrO" like a caravan of clowns?

Oh look we're doing it right now.
 

Ferize

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it doesn't help that hyao is kinda similar to the person at liliths throne. doesn't really like guest content all that much/doesn't wanna entrust the story to other people. he does all the coding/story writing/ review. I remember a guy trying to submit a shark into the game from the discord, and it was rejected for one reason or another. I'd personally suggest hyao finds someone to help lighten the load. at least, for coding so he can focus on the writing.
 

haceous

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Yo some people here need to chill, most if not all here don't pay for the patreon, also its a independent project the creator does most of the work "but he should look for people to work for him" no one knows his financial situation other than him, we don't know if he can afford to hire people, "he's paying Zoroj who's barely working" yes or he should just fire the main artist of the game because he's ill? Also talking shit about Zoroj will only make his condition even worse, I'm acquainted with Zoroj since 2008 when we both used to draw for the same blog and he's a really nice guy that cares way too much for what people think of his work, I can only imagine him tapping his name on google and see you all wanting him fired for not being in perfect mental condition.
 

Zorrscha

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Yo some people here need to chill, most if not all here don't pay for the patreon, also its a independent project the creator does most of the work "but he should look for people to work for him" no one knows his financial situation other than him, we don't know if he can afford to hire people, "he's paying Zoroj who's barely working" yes or he should just fire the main artist of the game because he's ill? Also talking shit about Zoroj will only make his condition even worse, I'm acquainted with Zoroj since 2008 when we both used to draw for the same blog and he's a really nice guy that cares way too much for what people think of his work, I can only imagine him tapping his name on google and see you all wanting him fired for not being in perfect mental condition.
I'm pretty sure like myself, most people got into LD because of ZoroJ. (since his art is hawt af)
Hyao is the reason the project is failing and yes there is burnout from writing but in theory he should of had the main story at least planned or brainstormed from the beginning instead of getting people invested just to give up on the reason we started liking it in the first place.

Also nobody even mentioned anything bad about ZoroJ as far as I've seen? (Let alone firing him)
 

F1C1

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It's funny how some people here feel so entitled, the game is available for free on itch.io and that's not enough, you get the paid version also for free and still not enough, and instead of talking to the creator directly and provide suggestions, no just hide here and complain (again about something you're getting for free), and on top of that, instead of actually supporting him so the project continues na'aa you want him to give out his own project to someone else, this entitled and backward thinking is baffling.
And even if I say if you don't like it leave, I know people won't because unlike what Zorrscha said, people actually got into LD and stayed for the unique game mechanics and features and writing not just the art, otherwise ZoroJ has his own comics and art that can be followed separate from Hyao's game.
 

Zorrscha

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It's funny how some people here feel so entitled, the game is available for free on itch.io and that's not enough, you get the paid version also for free and still not enough, and instead of talking to the creator directly and provide suggestions, no just hide here and complain (again about something you're getting for free), and on top of that, instead of actually supporting him so the project continues na'aa you want him to give out his own project to someone else, this entitled and backward thinking is baffling.
And even if I say if you don't like it leave, I know people won't because unlike what Zorrscha said, people actually got into LD and stayed for the unique game mechanics and features and writing not just the art, otherwise ZoroJ has his own comics and art that can be followed separate from Hyao's game.
I don't believe it's entitled to voice an opinion on the direction of a story, I've been playing since the only enemy was the bandit back when Hyao wasn't working with his fans input into the story which completely f'd everything because they wanted toned down fetishes, if you compare Logan's Wife getting ganged by wolves to the vanilla shiz you get now you wouldn't even think it was the same writer.

Hyao's main fault is he let's fans input affect his writing like many people on patreon do, but his integrity has been compromised as of late, new artist because his original one is struggling with workload and mental health, getting discord patreons to write stories for him.

And even if I say if you don't like it leave
Like really? People have been playing this since release and you expect them to just drop it and not voice on opinion on why it's become tedious and you talk about "Entitlement" :unsure:
 
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