Unity Mad Island [v0.27 Beta] [E-made+]

[Samiambutagain]

I'm curious what other people have done with their skill points. I maxed Leader, Carry, Persuasive, and Observation with one point into Self-healing. What do you do with your skill points, folks?

 

[Denkader]

I'm curious what other people have done with their skill points. I maxed Leader, Carry, Persuasive, and Observation with one point into Self-healing. What do you do with your skill points, folks?

There was an interesting discussion about this not too long ago. It started with this great post.

 

[Jrlfnn]

I'm curious what other people have done with their skill points. I maxed Leader, Carry, Persuasive, and Observation with one point into Self-healing. What do you do with your skill points, folks?

Just level up everything, most skills hit a ceiling at level 5. But in my opinion it's Self-healing 1 -> Harvest 5 -> Smash 5 -> Leader 5 -> Carry 5 -> Self-healing 5 -> everything else until 5 -> Smash and healing.

 

[Samiambutagain]

Skills tier list. It's ordered, so the one on top of each tier is a little better than the one below it.

Note that skills are shared between both protagonist characters. This is important because the Grapple skill is useless for the female protagonist, but leveling up while using her will still apply the level to the male protagonist.

S Tier (Always extremely important; invest as soon as possible)

• Harvest - The premier skill in the game. Upgrading Harvest allows you to get resources far more efficiently. This includes everything from wood, to ores, to berries, to flowers. They are all multiplied by a considerable factor. It does not apply to combat-related drops like animals or monsters, though. By attaining a high Harvest level early in the game, you will save yourself a tremendous amount of menial labor.
  
  
• Self-healing - Heals you when out of combat, allowing you to recover quickly between combat and also save on precious herbs. Your self-healing skill seems to also apply to companions who are following you. I believe that you only heal when your hunger level is above zero, which also applies to your companions, so make sure to feed them if you notice their health is not recovering.

A Tier (Often important; situationally very important)

• Smash - Deal more damage with power attacks (press F). The decapitation bonus isn't very useful, but the raw damage output allows you to one-shot a lot of enemies. The Smash skill is not quite as important as the strength stat, but the damage multiplier helps a lot. Eventually you will only want to use power attacks, not only because of the multiplier, but because both normal attacks and power attacks only damage your weapon by 1 point.
  
  
• Carry - Allows you to carry more downed NPCs, both human and non-human. Higher levels allow you to fast travel with more of them as well. If you are looking to build a larger settlement, this will be essential. I used skeleton guards to defend my city and without a high Carry level I would have needed to delve into the dungeon dozens of times.

B Tier (Often somewhat useful; situationally important)

• Grapple - When you attempt to rape via grapple (press R), the Grapple skill will increase the timer and reduce the amount of clicking you have to do. This is mostly useful if you rape a lot of NPCs. With a low Grapple skill, you may have trouble raping even friendly/tamed NPCs, which can be annoying. With a high Grapple skill, difficult female opponents like Large Female Native become trivial as you can press R on them and completely neuter them.
  
  
• Leader - Increases the number of companions who can follow you. It is a bit misleading, because the number is not a number of companions. It is a "size" value. Some animals have a "size" of 1. But larger creatures like the werewolf take up a lot of "size value points", in the case of the werewolf I believe 5. If you want to have powerful companions like werewolf or bigfoot, you'll need to level it up. It is also a useful skill for moving multiple people around without needing to rely on the Carry skill.

C Tier (Often mediocre; situationally somewhat useful)

• Construction - On the surface, the Construction skill seems to only increase the building radius. This isn't very useful, since you're probably not going to be building that far away to begin with. However, it has a hidden effect. By increasing your Construction skill you can repair destroyed objects more quickly, like walls. Later in the game, native scout patrols will absolutely decimate your walls, and without a higher Construction skill, it can be tedious. However, this can be mostly mitigated by assigning NPCs to the Repair task, making Construction generally mediocre.
  
  
• Persuasive - Multiplies the effects of persuasive actions (hold Q), both positive and negative. This is somewhat useful if you don't want to use the speed up feature (SHIFT + .). It just saves time in a few uncommon situations where affection adjustment is needed. Players who don't like to rape and prefer romance will probably find Persuasive to be more valuable.

D Tier (Often useless; situationally mediocre)

• Patience - Reduces the rate at which you lose hunger and thirst. Food is not really a problem in the game at all if you casually collect it as you explore. Neither is thirst with near-unlimited access to berries (shift + click to consume 10 at once). This skill is really just a worse version of Harvest, but it may be worth sinking some points into later when you have points to spare. The depleting food and thirst bars can be tedious when fast traveling around a lot, so Patience curbs it a bit. Even if it relieves a bit of tedium, I can still barely notice the difference between level 0 and level 5.
  
  
• Observation - Allows you to see various NPC stats like HP, faint, age, and personality. Seeing HP and faint is not as useful as it may first seem, since by the time you should level up Observation, you are probably killing everything in 4 or 5 hits at most Also, the combat is so simple that even if you knew the enemy only had one hit left, would it change your behavior at all? I doubt it. However, seeing the age and personality of an NPC is super useful. If you wish to age up or age down characters using growth or rejuvenation potions, seeing the actual number will help you gauge the amount of ingredients you need. With personality, this is incredibly situational, but if you want male NPCs to rape female NPCs you will need to find the correct personality type matchups.

F Tier (Almost always useless)

• Swim - A nice skill in theory that may become useful later in the game's development. As of right now, though, the best way to cross ocean water is to use the raft. There are no wide rivers that take more than 7 or 8 seconds to cross at the lowest Swim level. A very obscure use of Swim is that when using the raft at high speed-up levels (SHIFT + .), the game will sometimes force you off the raft. If your Swim level is 0, you may drown if the game is sped up fast. At a high Swim level, you will survive long enough to get back on the raft. If you don't use the speed-up feature at all, the Swim skill is almost completely useless.
  
  
• Stomach - Reduces the probability of food poisoning, all the way to 0%. I have never needed to eat raw food. Cooking is instant and easy at the bonfire which is provided to you at the beginning of the game. There aren't even that many foods which yield food poisoning to begin with, the only useful one being raw meats. This should be the last skill you level up.

This list is actually interesting, but I think Observation should be a little higher. It provides very useful information that can allow you to know exactly how much resources you need to put into an encounter and also gives you the valuable personality info that affects your entire settlement. I wholeheartedly agree that information like age and level is useless though.
As an aside, I think this is overselling grapple a little bit. I never find myself using grapple. Either I'm playing Yona who can't even do it, or I'm clubbing out the women who I want to knock unconscious, since rape makes them hate you and drops morale. If population is a problem, the Natives will solve that problem with one or two males and many females with agreeable personalities.
Smash is probably far better than I'm giving it credit for, but I rarely heavy attack because it's slow, and I'm not often willing to trade the hits against stronger enemies, and one shot the weaker ones anyway.
But these are just my opinions.

 

[flannan]

Smash is probably far better than I'm giving it credit for, but I rarely heavy attack because it's slow, and I'm not often willing to trade the hits against stronger enemies, and one shot the weaker ones anyway.
But these are just my opinions.

Smash's main value is in that it is the only multiplier for the power of your attacks. Everything else in the game is additive to your attack power.

 

[Samiambutagain]

That sounds very good, and it would probably make weapons with special attacks really monstrous, but I'm a speed person. It's still interesting to discuss opinions on the matter. If you grind enough, you'll get everything anyway, but it's fun to think about where your priorities lie when starting. I will say, I was hard sleeping on how useful Harvesting was. I don't think I can live without it anymore, and that's a problem.

 

[flannan]

That sounds very good, and it would probably make weapons with special attacks really monstrous, but I'm a speed person. It's still interesting to discuss opinions on the matter. If you grind enough, you'll get everything anyway, but it's fun to think about where your priorities lie when starting. I will say, I was hard sleeping on how useful Harvesting was. I don't think I can live without it anymore, and that's a problem.

I'd say Smash becomes useful when you have a katana or another late-game weapon which has special heavy attacks. For beginners, it's better to rely on light attacks.
About beginner skills, I'd say Harvesting and one level of healing are good. A bit later, one level of command (with 4 command points, you can command most beings on the island) and a couple of levels of swimming to make gathering coral less of a pain.

 

[Samiambutagain]

Swimming is a hard pitfall. There are no obligatory swimming portions of the game, and you can use a raft to travel over water to help you get coral or find the Mermaid.

 

[str8up]

started a brand new game and already its looking fantastic !!!!

 

[Denkader]

I was hard sleeping on how useful Harvesting was. I don't think I can live without it anymore, and that's a problem.

Never invested too much in harvesting myself. I think it's mostly useful in the beginning, but once you have natives doing all the harvesting for you it becomes kinda useless.

 

[ShadowEdge]

Its been some versions since I last played. Are light sources still bad or did they add some good ways to light bases?

The standing torches have a small radius and don't go very high, it barely lights characters faces.

 

[Jrlfnn]

Smash is probably far better than I'm giving it credit for, but I rarely heavy attack because it's slow, and I'm not often willing to trade the hits against stronger enemies, and one shot the weaker ones anyway.
But these are just my opinions.

Have you not used Katana, Magical Wand, Chaos Sword? These weapons have very powerful ranged AoE skills on the heavy attacks.

 

[Jin238]

started a brand new game and already its looking fantastic !!!!
View attachment 4276297

Do not believe your lying eyes comrade...

 

[Denkader]

Its been some versions since I last played. Are light sources still bad or did they add some good ways to light bases?

The standing torches have a small radius and don't go very high, it barely lights characters faces.

There are many different options available for lighting. I think the best one is the moonlight lamp. Strategically placed and if you get the settings right (you can adjust height, glow, color, etc) nights will seem almost brighter than days.

 

[Voltanis]

Don't know if the steam version has a desktop icon or not. But since the download here didn't have one I decided to make one. Hope the transparency works for people. For some reason I had to open in gimp for it to show up on my desktop.



View attachment icon.zip

 

[SuperMegaShark]

wellllllllllll, there was a plan for that once but was deemed abandoned

How many skulls for the skull throne and blood for the blood god so that the greatest invention of mankind to be resumed?

 

[Jrlfnn]

How many skulls for the skull throne and blood for the blood god so that the greatest invention of mankind to be resumed?

Maybe sometime in the future, the dev only relatively recently fixed the bows so you could shoot with them. You previously would hit with them in melee. I started playing this game only a few days prior to that, so I felt all the pain of melee'ing with a bow.

For now you can get multiple bows with arrows with different effects or Yona can use a wand that casts a giant heart on an area and deals massive stun damage to all the targets within it.

 

[Denkader]

i get this hitting B key (accidental discovery )
View attachment 4276683

That's a feature of the cheats mod. I don't use it myself (yet) but there's a note about it at the top right of your screenshot.

 

[John8r9]

Maybe sometime in the future, the dev only relatively recently fixed the bows so you could shoot with them. You previously would hit with them in melee. I started playing this game only a few days prior to that, so I felt all the pain of melee'ing with a bow.

For now you can get multiple bows with arrows with different effects or Yona can use a wand that casts a giant heart on an area and deals massive stun damage to all the targets within it.

u can use heavy attack (F key) with bow now if u don know yet

 

[marioman]

several questions now, does putting meals on the tables only work on raids?
where the heck are the diamonds?
(more i forgor)
and also thanks to everyone for responding and helping!
this is the most interaction(both positive and in general) i have ever had on this site