VN Ren'Py Made Marion [v2.05EA] [Velvet Cupcake Games]

Alleykatt

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Exactly, the Roman Empire had holding in modern England and Africa. Legionaries never served in their home province and thus Africans anywhere in eastern Europe is a historical likelihood as of around 500 A.D. at the latest. I can not believe that I'm educating this on a porn website.
You know that Little John was not a real person, right? He is a fictional character from a rather old fictional story.

And this version of the story isn't even in England.
 
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Ignazzio

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I little research will quickly show you that People Of Colour were not uncommon in medieval England - look at paintings/tapestries of that period and you will often see black/brown faces. they were not here as slaves either.
Saying that black people (especially of African origin) were not uncommon seems like a huge modern, western European stretch. Sounds like the same type of talk like this about women warriors in history and why Henry from Kingdom Come Deliverence couldn't be black when there were some examples on paintings. I just shared my perspective and that's it. Especially since Little John is kinda important in this whole story. It's a small issue tho and clearly it doesn't bother some people so I guess it's fine
 
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Even if the story of Robin Hood takes place in England (the majority is Caucasian), an invented character could be of any color or ethnicity.
In addition, Robin Hood's story has been in the public domain for more than 100 years or more. I'm sure the author of the game is more than free to change whatever he wants.
By that logic, Robin could also wield a sniper rifle, while the Sheriff is using UFO's to hunt Robin.

I little research will quickly show you that People Of Colour were not uncommon in medieval England - look at paintings/tapestries of that period and you will often see black/brown faces. they were not here as slaves either.
Bullshit.

Even a patently racist / blackwashing article like this one:

comes no further than legends, epics and invaders.
Also the author fails to mention that the islamic invaders of Spain (the Moors) were Berbers, who are not even "real" blacks.

Exactly, the Roman Empire had holding in modern England and Africa. Legionaries never served in their home province and thus Africans anywhere in eastern Europe is a historical likelihood as of around 500 A.D. at the latest. I can not believe that I'm educating this on a porn website.
Meh. I am not aware of evidence for or against black people serving in the Roman legions. It seems not entirely impossible although the Roman empire never included any part of Africa where blacks were a majority. However "historical likelyhood" is wrongly worded. "Historical possibility" would be more accurate, but "possible" is not "plausible".
 

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Exactly, the Roman Empire had holding in modern England and Africa. Legionaries never served in their home province and thus Africans anywhere in eastern Europe is a historical likelihood as of around 500 A.D. at the latest. I can not believe that I'm educating this on a porn website.
"Africa" within the Roman Empire was northern Africa (eg. Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya and Egypt), where people have never been black.
 

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By that logic, Robin could also wield a sniper rifle, while the Sheriff is using UFO's to hunt Robin.
Yes.
Character is in the public domain. If I want to make a Robin Hood story with a sniper and the Sheriff is using UFO's to hunt Robin I can!
I can take these characters into space, into the future, into the present time, I can make Robin like a black boy, Little John in Little Joanne and Sherif into a robot piloted by a super intelligent mutant hamster!
 
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Yes.
Character is in the public domain. If I want to make a Robin Hood story with a sniper and the Sheriff is using UFO's to hunt Robin I can!
I can take these characters into space, into the future, into the present time, I can make Robin like a black boy, Little John in Little Joanne and Sherif into a robot piloted by a super intelligent mutant hamster!
Ok, if you put it like that, I guess you're right.
Personally that would not be for me, but I do respect that position.
 

Nellyg

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Everyone is concentrating on made or maid, nobody noticed the spelling of Marian being wrong?

Not that it matters in any way of course.. long as the game is good :)
Never heard of Marion Robert Morrison? :giggle:
There is an argument that "i" is for girls and "o" is for boys, however I know a few female Marion's and I think you may find a few in the UK as well
 

Illustrivity

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Everyone is concentrating on made or maid, nobody noticed the spelling of Marian being wrong?

Not that it matters in any way of course.. long as the game is good :)
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I have a very limited number of fucks to give about the title and Robin Hood lore in general, so I won't and can't argue the validity of the "or Marion" bit, but there you go. Funny, 'cause another guy linked to it to argue his point about it being misspelled.

With that said, as long as the dialogue itself is good, who gives a shit? If you look for historical accuracy in a porn game instead of just well-written interpersonal interactions, then I'm sorry, but you're out of your fucking mind anyway (and not talking to you specifically, Meena, just in general).
 

Xia Liu Bei

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Ok Boomer.
Yeah, how dare we expect historical accuracy? I eagerly await the next installment of Shaft starring Tom Hanks.
I think you are the one with a lot of Hollywood influence, considering that there is no historical evidence that this "Little John" existed, so he could be black, blue, green or anything ...
Even if the story of Robin Hood takes place in England (the majority is Caucasian), an invented character could be of any color or ethnicity.
In addition, Robin Hood's story has been in the public domain for more than 100 years or more. I'm sure the author of the game is more than free to change whatever he wants.
What are you talking about “in the public domain for more than 100 years”? Robin Hood is a myth. He was never copyrighted in the first place. Anyone at any time could and can do a Robin Hood story.

As long as the people who want to champion a black Little John don’t whine about white actors playing Egyptian gods, then we’re all good.
 

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Whenever I see someone darker than tan in a preview banner, I always click just to see if the obligatory "Is that a black person!?" guy already arrived. 2020 and we're still bitching about this and dressing it up as wanting reality? It's not that serious. And I saw someone talking about historical accuracy I think? In a game set in the wrong location where you get to control someone's choices and take them off of their established path? I guess an excuse technically doesn't have to be a good one.
 

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Yes.
Character is in the public domain. If I want to make a Robin Hood story with a sniper and the Sheriff is using UFO's to hunt Robin I can!
I can take these characters into space, into the future, into the present time, I can make Robin like a black boy, Little John in Little Joanne and Sherif into a robot piloted by a super intelligent mutant hamster!
yes I would play that game.

Just sayin.
 

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What are you talking about “in the public domain for more than 100 years”? Robin Hood is a myth. He was never copyrighted in the first place. Anyone at any time could and can do a Robin Hood story.

As long as the people who want to champion a black Little John don’t whine about white actors playing Egyptian gods, then we’re all good.
Robin Hood may be a myth for you, but for the entertainment industry it is a story that does not have an owner to pay copyright and so it can be done the way they want and change the way they want.

Furthermore, if he is a myth, again, he has no historical evidence about the existence of Little John and, therefore, there is no one who can say whether he was white or black. Therefore, the game can portray him as he sees fit.

Besides, I have no problem with whites playing Egyptian gods, blacks playing Nordic or Asian gods playing unworthy gods or a woman playing Jesus Christ!

If the story is good ... for me it's worth it!