RPGM Maids & Masters [v0.22] [The Mithril Hourglass]

[meow382]

Not sure if I am doing something wrong or not. But I can't seem to recruit Iris on any of my play throughs. I have the apron in my inventory that I bought in Ambrose City once I got the VIP trophy. I found her in the kitchen, but I don't have the option to give it to her. I managed to make an alliance with Archibald without giving anything up, because I go to Big Dicks every chance I get. Plus I went out of my way to be polite to Archibald. As far as recruiting Lalita I managed to avoid having to fight her. I also don't fight Archibald's maids because no sense in fighting a battle I cannot win. I go out of my way to play nice with the Ambroses as much as possible in my play throughs for Lalita's sake. I have never been able to recruit Iris though. Am I playing to nice? Do I need to be a little mean to Archibald first to humble him a bit or something?

Also I am having a hard time figuring out what I need to do for trophy 34. It is the last trophy I haven't figured out how to get. I know it has something to do with the order, and that is pretty much it. I am got the smoking pipe trophy so I'm all out of ideas for things I could be doing in the order. I have a feeling it might involve Archibald in some way but that is just a guess and even if it does I have no idea what I would need or where to start. I thought it might involve a list of names or discovering the crosses for all the members I'm sure I have done that. Like I said I have no idea what I am supposed to be doing.

 

[hreserves]

Not sure if I am doing something wrong or not. But I can't seem to recruit Iris on any of my play throughs. I have the apron in my inventory that I bought in Ambrose City once I got the VIP trophy. I found her in the kitchen, but I don't have the option to give it to her. I managed to make an alliance with Archibald without giving anything up, because I go to Big Dicks every chance I get. Plus I went out of my way to be polite to Archibald. As far as recruiting Lalita I managed to avoid having to fight her. I also don't fight Archibald's maids because no sense in fighting a battle I cannot win. I go out of my way to play nice with the Ambroses as much as possible in my play throughs for Lalita's sake. I have never been able to recruit Iris though. Am I playing to nice? Do I need to be a little mean to Archibald first to humble him a bit or something?

I am happy to confirm there's no punishment system in place for being "too nice." Trying to compensate for cheat engines or save editing to punish the player for a variable being higher than intended is a layer of complexity that it's simply not worth my time to try to add.

Recruiting Iris also isn't tied to Lalita's affection score or any reputation scores. Allying with Archibald just means you're not locked out of his Estate, so you can recruit Iris at your leisure instead of needing to do it before the end of the segment (it does come with other benefits, but it's not relevant to recruiting Iris).
Recruiting Iris is kind of a combination between Quinn and Teely. Once you find her in her first spot, you need to navigate the conversation until you get to "I'm sorry, dear." At that point, if you have a Silk Apron in your inventory (not equipped to anyone; you need to have it floating in your inventory), you get the option to give it to her, then you need to find her again and navigate a second conversation. At the end of that, she's recruited.

Also I am having a hard time figuring out what I need to do for trophy 34. It is the last trophy I haven't figured out how to get. I know it has something to do with the order, and that is pretty much it. I am got the smoking pipe trophy so I'm all out of ideas for things I could be doing in the order. I have a feeling it might involve Archibald in some way but that is just a guess and even if it does I have no idea what I would need or where to start. I thought it might involve a list of names or discovering the crosses for all the members I'm sure I have done that. Like I said I have no idea what I am supposed to be doing.

Trophy 34 isn't fully implemented yet. Neither is Trophy 36 (which is part of v0.20).
They're both meant to be fully implemented in v0.21 (which is set to release Friday), but I got my dates mixed up as far as when I'll be out of town, so while v0.21 is going to be finished, it might be missing some of that content yet. I'll do my best to get it in there, but I don't want to delay v0.21 a week just because I forgot to look at my calendar.

 

[meow382]

I was doing another play through and I decided I wanted to drag out the war a bit longer to level my maids a bit without having to spend any silcrow to get them to level 50. When I felt I was ready to actually progress the war I entered the Beauregard estate to find everyone other than the maid dead. Including the mother of my unborn child. Does this automatically happen if the war goes on for a long time? If not how do I avoid it? This is the first time I have had this happen to me. I have a save from before the war started so I can redo it all though would like to know how to avoid it in the future. Beverly and Stebbing just made an enemy for life.

Edit: For future reference if anyone wants to grind experience during the war to save silcrow, and wants to avoid Beverly committing war crimes against civilians it is best to just blitz north ASAP and make sure no enemy troops are behind your line. Put your maids that you aren't currently grinding experience on that isthmus to cover any enemy maids that try to move past you. Put the maids you want to grind experience for in that spot and I circled, and you should fight the enemy maids as they spawn. You can also hit the rest up command on your turn so you can easily keep healed up easily. Make sure to secure the tower, and Clannestad beforehand so the front advances to that point. Only downside I see so far is that you won't be leveling Phoebe and Melissa this way so they will lag behind your other maids. Once you are ready to end the war move in your other two squads, and finish him off. I have been at it for a couple hours and doesn't seem to have any unforeseen consequences.

 

[hreserves]

I was doing another play through and I decided I wanted to drag out the war a bit longer to level my maids a bit without having to spend any silcrow to get them to level 50. When I felt I was ready to actually progress the war I entered the Beauregard estate to find everyone other than the maid dead. Including the mother of my unborn child. Does this automatically happen if the war goes on for a long time? If not how do I avoid it? This is the first time I have had this happen to me. I have a save from before the war started so I can redo it all though would like to know how to avoid it in the future. Beverly and Stebbing just made an enemy for life.

You're pretty close with your guess. You can avoid it, but given that I just got back in town and am only now uploading v0.20 for public release, I'm gonna be stingy with details for the time being.
Though I will say that if it hit the point where everyone else is dead, the Maid should be dead, too. I'll have to add that to my notes to look into.

 

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[pantherismytat]

the game is stuck where im suppose go ask for help with servents and head north then west but the game keeps wanting to go to cumhaill, what to do?

 

[raikou34]

So where exactly should we "Confront Raven"? Going to Ravenswod Estate yields nothing so far.

 

[meow382]

So where exactly should we "Confront Raven"? Going to Ravenswod Estate yields nothing so far.

Just enter the front entrance, and keep going north through all the doors. Eventually you see him guarding the door that leads north.

 

[hreserves]

the game is stuck where im suppose go ask for help with servents and head north then west but the game keeps wanting to go to cumhaill, what to do?

That depends on where exactly you are. I'm not totally sure what step you're on because there are a few parts of the early game that can be summarized as "go north to ask for help."

I'm guessing where you're stuck is taking the road north to enter the South Forest region for the first time to go speak with Lothario about getting more Maids.
I'm also willing to guess why you're stuck is because you used a save editor to skip past gathering wood in the Deep Wilds instead of using Ella's option to skip past doing the repairs altogether, and now you're missing party members after the Extermination fight. If that's the case, there's nothing that can really be done. There are parts of the game where editing your save in certain ways can break the game, and that's one of them. You'll need to revert to an earlier save and avoid cheating like that to be able to continue.

If that's not the case, can you provide more information?
Or, if you're not sure what other information you could provide, could you provide your save? That way I could check where you're stuck myself (though I may not be able to fix the save in the case of what I mentioned above). Just keep in mind that I need both the numbered save file and the global.rmmzsave file in order to load your save.

So where exactly should we "Confront Raven"? Going to Ravenswod Estate yields nothing so far.

What meow382 said. There's a gate that goes out of the north side of the Ravenswood Estate that he's guarding. You just talk to him there. It's a straight shot from the entrance after you've cleared the third Haunt.

 

[raikou34]

Just enter the front entrance, and keep going north through all the doors. Eventually you see him guarding the door that leads north.

What meow382 said. There's a gate that goes out of the north side of the Ravenswood Estate that he's guarding. You just talk to him there. It's a straight shot from the entrance after you've cleared the third Haunt.

Think I either broke the game or it's actually done for now. Since I'm stuck at "Don't you think you're getting a little ahead of yourself, Master ...".

 

[meow382]

From the entrance he is pretty much a straight shot north. I just checked myself, and yeah it sounds like you are done as well. Providing you did everything dealing with Kala. I just went to the gate myself and that is what he told me as well.

Honestly even if the update was a bit short it really filled in a lot of the blanks of why Kala is the way she is. Is a miracle she isn't worse off mentally. She killed a metric fuck ton of people. Some deserved it, many did not. She was a walking genocide. Natural disaster doesn't even cover the amount of damage she has done.

I know it is a bit of a weeb example, but she is the game version of someone like Madara Uchiha or Hashirama if they went berserk. She isn't an army killer. She is a nation killer. Someone who when fighting if they lose control for even a second can permanently scar the land. That crater is the continent's version of the Valley of the End, and I would hate to imagine what types of enemies she faced which required her to unleash that amount of raw power.

Also explains why she is so uncomfortable around children. Those estates she destroyed. The names she ended. There would have been a hell of a lot of children in those estates. Be they children of masters or servants. Her power isn't made for accuracy. Her masters also made sure she was in a berserker rage before battle so she was not in control. Even if she didn't intend to she definitely killed kids.

Wouldn't surprise me she remembers everything she did when she wasn't in control. Bet she doesn't sleep much because of the nightmares even if she never mentioned them in game. Hypervigilence, and muted affect also classic symptoms of PTSD I see everytime I look in the mirror.

Cornelius Ambrose probably realized that if she kept being used that way she would be a ticking time bomb of everyone who had used her in that manner creation. Yet he dare not retire her because then she would quickly find a lack of purpose so many war veterans run into when they can not reintergrate back into civilian life easily. What he can do is give her easy assignments, and allow her to gradually decompress. Knowlege he definitely passed on to Archibald, who passed it on to Lalita.

The next character I hope we learn more about during the time she fought in the war is Willow. The way she looks at Dierlinn's stomach when she is pregnant, and the way she looks at the baby after it is born definitely tells me she has some trauma in her past as well involving either an infant or child. She either had to assassinate a pregnant woman or a child. Or potentially lost a child of her own. Possibly by miscarriage. Her blood is basically poison. Perhaps in her time after the war she found someone, and got pregnant. Only for her own blood to kill it. Is hinted that Griselda never actually held a pact with Willow. That leaves a gap of centuries between the end of the war and when Bianca meets her.

 

[hreserves]

Think I either broke the game or it's actually done for now. Since I'm stuck at "Don't you think you're getting a little ahead of yourself, Master ...".

Yeah, if you're getting that and have done the war, that's the end of v0.20.
If you have the early access version and have gone through the wastes, that's the end of v0.21.
Though in either case, you should've gotten an "end of version" message. If you haven't done the war or the wastes, something definitely broke.

Honestly even if the update was a bit short it really filled in a lot of the blanks of why Kala is the way she is. Is a miracle she isn't worse off mentally. She killed a metric fuck ton of people. Some deserved it, many did not. She was a walking genocide. Natural disaster doesn't even cover the amount of damage she has done.

I know it is a bit of a weeb example, but she is the game version of someone like Madara Uchiha or Hashirama if they went berserk. She isn't an army killer. She is a nation killer. Someone who when fighting if they lose control for even a second can permanently scar the land. That crater is the continent's version of the Valley of the End, and I would hate to imagine what types of enemies she faced which required her to unleash that amount of raw power.

Also explains why she is so uncomfortable around children. Those estates she destroyed. The names she ended. There would have been a hell of a lot of children in those estates. Be they children of masters or servants. Her power isn't made for accuracy. Her masters also made sure she was in a berserker rage before battle so she was not in control. Even if she didn't intend to she definitely killed kids.

Wouldn't surprise me she remembers everything she did when she wasn't in control. Bet she doesn't sleep much because of the nightmares even if she never mentioned them in game. Hypervigilence, and muted affect also classic symptoms of PTSD I see everytime I look in the mirror.

Cornelius Ambrose probably realized that if she kept being used that way she would be a ticking time bomb of everyone who had used her in that manner creation. Yet he dare not retire her because then she would quickly find a lack of purpose so many war veterans run into when they can not reintergrate back into civilian life easily. What he can do is give her easy assignments, and allow her to gradually decompress. Knowlege he definitely passed on to Archibald, who passed it on to Lalita.

The next character I hope we learn more about during the time she fought in the war is Willow. The way she looks at Dierlinn's stomach when she is pregnant, and the way she looks at the baby after it is born definitely tells me she has some trauma in her past as well involving either an infant or child. She either had to assassinate a pregnant woman or a child. Or potentially lost a child of her own. Possibly by miscarriage. Her blood is basically poison. Perhaps in her time after the war she found someone, and got pregnant. Only for her own blood to kill it. Is hinted that Griselda never actually held a pact with Willow. That leaves a gap of centuries between the end of the war and when Bianca meets her.

I would love to make more of a conversation out of this because it's so fun for me to read this sort of thing, but I don't want to spoil anything for anyone that hasn't played the early access update yet. Still very fun for me to read, though. I can tell you're invested, which I can only take as a compliment.

 

[Nekojr06]

hello how to complete find viridius headstone

 

[WORTIGER]

can someone please explain to me how to finish the third freeze? in the mission "endure the freeze" i have both yellow stars, i spent time with all the maids, the girl who gave birth and i even asked the pregnant noblewoman (but she refused). is there any particular combination to combine between the various girls? especially to get a trophy?

 

[meow382]

can someone please explain to me how to finish the third freeze? in the mission "endure the freeze" i have both yellow stars, i spent time with all the maids, the girl who gave birth and i even asked the pregnant noblewoman (but she refused). is there any particular combination to combine between the various girls? especially to get a trophy?

Assuming you are on 0.20 or 0.21 make sure you talk to Melissa and spend time with her and lead her to the shed. I spent way longer than I want to admit until I figured that out. As far as the trophies there is an earlier post which spells out how to get most of them found here. https://f95zone.to/threads/maids-masters-v0-20-the-mithril-hourglass.90554/post-12768274 .

As far as advancing the season I have noticed that you really only have to spend time with the girls you added to your estate since the last freeze. However to get the Trophies especially the second one you have to have also have triggered the earlier trophy, and do stuff with some of the earlier members of your harem. Also do not be afraid to walk around with with all of your girls and talk to everyone else. The freeze segments really are some of the best character development in the game. It allows you to really get to know the girls really well.

 

[Gen Urobuchi]

Is this image missing from the game?

(Maid Wake-Up - Summer)?
Or is it my game? v20...

 

[hreserves]

hello how to complete find viridius headstone

There's a hidden switch in his bedroom. Your Maids help you look for it, but mostly only tell you where it isn't.
Don't stress too much about finding it, though. There's no real mechanical difference in how events play out.

Is this image missing from the game?
(Maid Wake-Up - Summer)?
Or is it my game? v20...

No, looking at the files in the .rar, it does seem to be missing. The filepath also appears incorrect. Fixed for v0.22.
I never encountered this in testing, so this has probably been broken for a while. Thanks for calling it out!

 

[WORTIGER]

can someone please tell me how to attack the enemies that appear on the map during the war?

 

[hreserves]

can someone please tell me how to attack the enemies that appear on the map during the war?

You just need to be adjacent to them (including diagonals) and they'll attack you.
It's set up so they check for any of your squads being adjacent first, then they move, then they check again, so you don't need to worry about them moving out of range or anticipating where they'll move next to catch them.