RPGM Mana Quest [vb0.5.6] [Cozy Bunny]

[ciphertul]

This is insanely good! I want to hug Mave

Mave is my current favorite too though I do wanna learn more about Bonfi.

 

[SphealofApproval]

Loving the direction so far, as advertised its incredibly cozy for an h-game. I look forward to more mouse content (with a side of goblin pls) from this dev.

 

[Kawam]

I get everyone hates AI but like, can you tell me what looks like AI?

First, it's nice to see that you take time off of your day to look in here and engage. I do appreciate that.
Being "that" guy about AI, I can give some pointers on what makes people think there was some involved.
The feeling mostly comes, when something feels off. Mostly things you cannot immediately put your finger on. For example small inconsistencies.

Spoiler: Example 1

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Spoiler: Example 2

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Those are just 2 simple examples, why it feels like there was at least some AI involved at places, even if touched up. If I had to bet on which ones, I'd say the example and the dryad one. Oh and the thing that the orc carries on her back, that thing is just wrong in so many places.

I do hope that this gives an insight on why some people get the thought about the AI involvement.

 

[raffle]

Thank you everyone for the kind words, its motivating to see feedback from people with 0 reasons to hold back on shitting on the game. Means a lot

Let me answer some more stuff:

Yo, so I clicked the little number 2 on the Alna status page and she went from green to blue, and there's no number one, anyone knows how to make her go back to green? She looked better that way

Don't worry about this, the status menu is being done right now, if any interface window in the game has a modern look and doesn't look cute in a hand-drawn chibi style, then it's just a placeholder.

so.....I feel a little confused, could you not be able to swing the sword in the first attempt to apply for the guild or am i missing something in the controls? also, im surprised the MC hasnt figured out they were in the game world almost immediately

You get clapped no matter what for the exam, there's no controls for it :3 Also the MC did not teleport into the game's world. Euna just thought the game the MC was playing was reality and not a game. Eter/Hoppe etc has nothing to do with the game the MC played AT ALL.

I do hope that this gives an insight on why some people get the thought about the AI involvement.

Holy shit you have a really good eye, and there's a reason for all that you pointed that, ok so basically there's a bit of a backstory to this scene in specific: it was THE first scene ever drawn for the game, so it went through A TON of reworks as the game changed.

Back then Alna was a goblin, not an orc. Even after she became an orc I wasn't happy with her initial design, so changed her design again. At one point the game's resolution had to change up to 1080p so her legs had to be redrawn to account for the new display ratio, then I decided the scenes would be all in POV style with floating hands.
By this point I had a different artist working on edits (so both Nia and Iwbitu worked on this scene, links on my first post, and I guess their linework clashed a bit).
And finally me and iwbitu landed on her absolutely final design that fit the most with the current idea of the game, so this scene has now been fully redone by her, once again.
So in short, she had like 3 reworks and 2 artists redrawing stuff.

Here's a smoll preview that I shouldn't even be sharing here, but so you can see that the scene in the current build and that screenshot in this thread is now obsolete:

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I'd say the example and the dryad one.

What's wrong with the dryad? that one had 0 redraws and was all drawn by Nia.

Oh and the thing that the orc carries on her back, that thing is just wrong in so many places.

What's wrong with her shield!??

(Thanks for being so thorough tho, that makes more sense to me now <3)

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On a final note, I will absolutely never use AI for my game's characters, scenes, etc because:
- I have no idea how it works (i mostly just use free chatgpt to correct some text)
- From what I've seen from other devs it's a total pain to even try to get consistent things and even then you still have to edit a lot
- I don't want to pay a sub to use it
- My gpu/cpu is too old for that shit (gtx 1060/i3-10100F)
- I'm too committed and already spent too much time and money on actual art/animation to switch now

 

[Kawam]

What's wrong with the dryad? that one had 0 redraws and was all drawn by Nia.

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What's wrong with her shield!??

Ty for the swift reply and even considering my opinion. Also for sharing some things from behind the scenes. That pic looks a lot more consistent and I can see how we got to the endproduct.

To clarify the dryad and the Shield.

Spoiler: Dryad

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When I was looking into the artist I noticed that they have a style that AI Art likes to copy a lot. That's also the reason why my first thought was AI. But I could not find anything definitive with them. It's a style choice and perhaps they just do it like that. Those could all be just mistakes or not the focus. You can see that with the Dryad herself. She is the money shot and clearly way more detailed than anything else. And that's enough. All the "hints" I found with the dryad pic are mostly things on the outside. I'm just a nerd that got trained to look for stuff like that.

Spoiler: Shield

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[hofom77573]

Hopefully you get the sword to work with a controller as none of the buttons seem to swing the thing. Maybe look at how Stardew Valley does it as it seems to be playing on the same layout.

Being mauled by dog is a odd decision for a starter tutorial if that's intentional. Teaching the player how to handle a weapon is much more on the priority of shit I care about instead of throwing away some coal which could have just been sold for a few coins

 

[maxdannis]

Very good start to the game.

 

[ALPHA.CORE]

>abandoned shop
>massive debt at the start
>have a cute debt collector with glasses
>introduce your competitor
>You hire an adventurer to grind in the dungeon

close enough, welcome back Recettear
capitalism ho

Anyway, hopefully devs don't make the dungeon section very shit

 

[ciphertul]

Oh I do have to ask, will choices matter? Like in the demo I picked to not take advantage of drunk Alna however the next scene made it out like I did anyways.

 

[raffle]

Ty for the swift reply and even considering my opinion.

Thanks for clarifying even more, although that makes total sense when trying to find AI, for the dryad that is literally Nia just being lazy lmao and for the shield sure it's sloppy but it's just a prop so I didn't really have the artist spend a lot of time on it, she just did one sketch and I was like Ok looks good and she rendered it =w=

Hopefully you get the sword to work with a controller as none of the buttons seem to swing the thing.

The MC will never do any combat so there's nothing to learn, the MC is just a regular human weakling not from Eter, it's why the MC needs the party in the first place. However the MC will be managing the shop so that's why I had you mess with the inventory for a bit before the shop gameplay is introduced (which is not in yet). Once we get to party gameplay later on though then you will get a combat tutorial c:

Oh I do have to ask, will choices matter? Like in the demo I picked to not take advantage of drunk Alna however the next scene made it out like I did anyways.

That's not true. She's freaking out about her mana, but she specifically points out that thankfully you did NOT do anything But yeah I do want some actions to have diff reactions from characters =w=

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

It's always interesting to see what people can do with RPGM when they put in some extra, extra effort. Get so used to the same standard stuff. That when you see something like this. You gotta pause and wonder like wait.... this the same engine?!

 

[ciphertul]

That's not true. She's freaking out about her mana, but she specifically points out that thankfully you did NOT do anything But yeah I do want some actions to have diff reactions from characters =w=

The way the main character acted was like he still did something to her.

 

[raffle]

The way the main character acted was like he still did something to her.

I don't agree :3
There are two chances to back out:
- In the first, the MC just takes a breath and leaves pretty fast without any guilt. In no way does the narration makes it seem like he did something to her here.
- In the second, the MC is literally checking out her pussy, so that's why the MC feels guilty and also disappointment from not leaving sooner. It's still SA
In both cases since no mana was released, Euna still says the MC did nothing after freaking out, i thought both narration cases were cohesive but I guess i failed miserably then

 

[ciphertul]

I don't agree :3
There are two chances to back out:
- In the first, the MC just takes a breath and leaves pretty fast without any guilt. In no way does the narration makes it seem like he did something to her here.
- In the second, the MC is literally checking out her pussy, so that's why the MC feels guilty and also disappointment from not leaving sooner. It's still SA
In both cases since no mana was released, Euna still says the MC did nothing after freaking out, i thought both narration cases were cohesive but I guess i failed miserably then

What I mean is during the meeting Mave scene you get the line "Alna, unaware of what you did to her, radiates high spirits, and you feel a wave of relief".
Even if you didn't do anything to her.

 

[raffle]

What I mean is during the meeting Mave scene

OHHH that's what you meant, good call! I actually forgot to put a variable there, will fix soon :3

 

[Degarron]

You had me at Stardew Valley like.

 

[tsugomomo]

how to advance time??

 

[ciphertul]

how to advance time??

Just waiting. That is all currently.

 

[Koran02]

Are the scenes in the preview pictures not in the game yet? If they are how would I go about getting them?

 

[I'llmaybedoit]

Does anyone know the save location?

My game gets an error after I go to bed and I can't do anything after that, so I'm gonna reinstall