JenMistress

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Well, suddenly, the Sandbox in 0.3 got worse, so bad, I have no idea where to go, or why I can't interact with anyone once I do get someone to pop up on the screen. It is a shame, as I was really enjoying this game until then, but guess I will put it on the backburner now until someone comes up with something to make that Sandbox make sense.
 

Ursus4321

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Disappointing, liked your previous games. Hey, it’s your game and you did NTR well. Perhaps, you wanted to change it up which I get. If you succumbed to the vocal anti-NTR brigade, however, you risk losing a core audience that followed you as a Dev. It’s your thing, do what ya gonna do.
Well, then they say that it is the anti-intr who pressure the devs with losing sponsorship if they don't do what they want. It seems that both sides are pressuring the devs with the same issue.
 

Thiago1984

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I'm not sure what sandbox means, but if you mean the map of the area with circled rooms of the mansion, then yes, it is quite confusing. It would have been better if it said, "End of current content." If there was action in the rooms, there should have been a small picture of the person in that room, so you'd know where to go instead of hunting around, and all you get is a little conversation when you do find somebody. Great start, very mediocre ending.
Exactly!

The game sounds very promising...but, that part is sucks

A small picture is necessary, or a kind of tasks menu
 

Thiago1984

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Well, suddenly, the Sandbox in 0.3 got worse, so bad, I have no idea where to go, or why I can't interact with anyone once I do get someone to pop up on the screen. It is a shame, as I was really enjoying this game until then, but guess I will put it on the backburner now until someone comes up with something to make that Sandbox make sense.
Yes!
I saw a lot of circles with the locations. But i don't who is there, what time, what can i do...
 

Iskender

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so im assuming the sandbox is the end of current content or am i missing something seems to be just looking the same scenes when talking to characters at each location.
Yes sandbox is the end of this update, it's now unfinished, task menu will be added to make things easier, this will be updated in v0.4.
 

m3nic

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The sandbox not put character image when they show up on the each places that makes hard and slow to the game.
 

xert13

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Well, then they say that it is the anti-intr who pressure the devs with losing sponsorship if they don't do what they want. It seems that both sides are pressuring the devs with the same issue.
Nope, still support the Dev....and yes, the anti-NTR brigade is vocal and shits on anyone who disagrees much more so than those who like a good Netorare game now and then. Just look at the Devs that feel it necessary to post "NO NTR!" or "Will never have NTR" or my personal favorite, "No fucking NTR!" I support several Devs that do not have NTR in their games. I specifically told the Dev to do his thing. I have consistently posted that to numerous Devs. Nice try though...
 
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Takkertje

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Wanna fuck that THICC!! darkheared nimf Eleanor!
0.3 and still no intercourse with anyone.
And the whole sandbox idea without any hints or clues ruins this game definitely.
And reduces it to brainless grindcore.
so it must be
 

Hyperserver

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yepp - was a nice game until this update.
Sandbox is probably the worst decision made at all.
I don't know why devs still think sandbox is a good way to go. 90% of all "suddenly-sandbox" games gone wrong after that.
Creating a WORKING sandbox game is kind of the "king-discipline" of game creation.

Sandbox only makes sense, if you can do ALL paths completely separated from each other without interfering.
Depending on doing certain stuff at certain locations at a given time and doing all that exactly in a given order, to keep being "on route" is just a mere pain in the ass. Why not just keep VN or even KN for gods sake?

PS:
Even a walkthrough or hint-system does NOT change the fact that mostly sandbox games are not really "free-roam", but more like "search the next trigger", which completely kills all tension and mood - at least for me.
On top of that, creating sandbox games where you don't know which events you play in which order simply opend all doors for potential loop-holes and inconsistencies or even major bugs.
Developers should save their ressources to create a fine linear VN instead of wasting time to try to do a sandbox game, which most likely only makes the game worse in the end while also making the development WAYYYY more complicated.
 
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Akabakka

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Sure I'll wait to see how the sandbox evolves.... but as of today i don't get the interest. If it's about masking a lack of more content via grinding and tedious conditions to trigger stuff, it still won't work on people disliking adult games sandboxes... and exactly for those reasons.

It is never fun to have to wait in the proper room/location at the right hour, after the proper previously activated event triggers , to unlock scenes. ALSO dear devs, and this concerns everyone doing sandboxes in Adult games lately... your sandboxes aren't sandboxes at all , just free roaming "find the right sequence of event" BS grind. There is no interaction usually with anything in your rooms, bare an actively present character, no item to play with, nor even puzzles , clues to search , no physics, not even video displayed on tv and other screens, no content making the game's world a tool for your self entertainment hence the fricking "Sandbox" moniker. Clicking through 10 empty shitty rooms at either 10 am or 10 pm, ain't a sandbox. Again my rant ain't just about this case, but far too many games following that pattern
 

Hyperserver

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Just wait for it.
the whole setup and story actually doesn't allow any sandbox at all (imho).
But try to prove me wrong before you lose your fanbase - at least for now it has a VERY bad taste.
A sandbox game has to be scripted and thought through 100% BEFORE you even start to create.
Given the fact that you started as VN, and now switched to sandbox simply shows that you haven't planned all that right from the start. So imho it can't even be a real sandbox.
I really want to see how you do a propper sandbox game with 10 characters interacting together and depending how your decisions made with other characters everyone else has to react differntly. Good luck with creating hundreds of different route combinations ...... OR you do a forced order of events, which will be again a simple VN packed into sandbox crap.
Whatever....
... Your game, your decision - just it's really sad to see a REALLY good game driven against the wall by force. I had a lot of hopes for this one.
Good luck anyways ... you probably need it -wish you the best though XD
 

cab18+

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Glad i didn't fck up with the latest update, after reading the previous messages ;) .

I don't mind a sandbox as long as i know what to do.
 
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