VN Ren'Py Mastering the Pink Box [v0.10] [Studio 68 Games!]

[Lady Lydia]

For the most part things that you said were interesting, except I think your under estimating Todd. He dealt with the Colleen situation and he knows about Charlie's problems and was concerned she went to far. Stated it multiple times, I think he's one of the people behind the scenes.

Well that is different, the 'charade' I meant was him having hostile intentions toward the MC and being able to keep it all secret. I mean sure he is involved in some shady shit, even possibly the murder of the MC's father but I question his capability to pretend to be the MC's friend while plotting against him and doing successfully without showing any signs of issues with the MC, the only time he ever was negative toward the MC is when he whined if you don't let him have fun with Devon during the pool event otherwise he never break the appearance of being a best bud to the MC.

 

[Canto Forte]

The thing is that MC does not find meaning beyond the sex with most of the male cast - he gets either handouts or a beating or the males bragging about banging girls, without him, sending him pics of the girls whoring out, or simply being better simps to the girls than MC. At this point, MC is surpassed by everyone, mainly because it is the sex and that is it, the sole reason most of the girls hang around MC, using him like a bull, a spare, a tool ... not sure where you see a relationship here, precisely once you admit the sex is the fun.

Make them have reasons to be together beyond just sex. They are there exploring their sexuality and having fun doing it.

On that point aren't we all on this forum because we find sex fun? At least a little bit. Exploration of sex is supposed to be fun especially with games since they are a safe way to do it.

If the sex is the fun, where is the fun in any relationship nobody wants? This is all because they are already dealing with their own boyfriends - relationships they bored out of by the time the game starts, so banging MC outta boredom is already here, not relationships.

 

[Runner17]

Well that is different, the 'charade' I meant was him having hostile intentions toward the MC and being able to keep it all secret. I mean sure he is involved in some shady shit, even possibly the murder of the MC's father but I question his capability to pretend to be the MC's friend while plotting against him and doing successfully without showing any signs of issues with the MC, the only time he ever was negative toward the MC is when he whined if you don't let him have fun with Devon during the pool event otherwise he never break the appearance of being a best bud to the MC.

I don't think he's behind the murder, I hope not because, I enjoy there interactions. Just curious, on how he has all the information beforehand. You really made me think about some ideas.

Regretfully, I'm here for the sex/sharing and what I thought was a light plot until each of your mega post. . Plus the girls are sexy as hell.

 

[Runner17]

The thing is that MC does not find meaning beyond the sex with most of the male cast - he gets either handouts or a beating or the males bragging about banging girls, without him, sending him pics of the girls whoring out, or simply being better simps to the girls than MC. At this point, MC is surpassed by everyone, mainly because it is the sex and that is it, the sole reason most of the girls hang around MC, using him like a bull, a spare, a tool ... not sure where you see a relationship here, precisely once you admit the sex is the fun.

If the sex is the fun, where is the fun in any relationship nobody wants? This is all because they are already dealing with their own boyfriends - relationships they bored out of by the time the game starts, so banging MC outta boredom is already here, not relationships.

Interesting view, but some of the relationships are there, Kyruw and her talk on the bench with the MC, Jessica which is the slowest build, Devon, through the whole game and even Misty, Todd, Devon and the MC relationship going forward. Aimee also if it turns out as someone suggested her current boyfriend is gay. This is if I read your post correctly. Forgive me if I didn't.

 

[colombianhoes]

I mean, the game offers you to enable/disable ntr.
What are we arguing here exactly?

 

[blkcrow20]

I mean, the game offers you to enable/disable ntr.
What are we arguing here exactly?

Don't think that will work since there is no NTR in the game.

 

[Dessolos]

The NTR/NTS lovers are shitting on those that don't enjoy that content.
This game isn't exclusive to NTR/NTS lovers.
Read the overview!

Overview:
This is a journey of Zach and his new friends.
After dealing with some personal loss.
Zach slowly comes into some interesting situations.
Choose between caring is sharing, or keep it all for yourself.
Help your friends achieve their desires, or don't!
Lets see where we end up!

i'm in both camps I enjoy sharing and non sharing. Tho I lean heavier on the no sharing side tho depends on the game im playing. But I disagree somewhat while there is a no NTS path the game clearly plays with it in mind. But I hope the non sharing path gets a decent amount of love since it's an optional path to play

It gets way grosser than that.
A train being run on Colleen by senior citizens an a fat belly disgusting looking Ogre.

Not gonna lie while I didn't like the way she acts after you "help" her. I was kind bummed her escort stuff was over so quickly I find it rare to find a escort LI in sharing games. I find that relationship dynamic interesting if it's explored properly.

 

[Runner17]

Hopefully, C.K updates his current load soon. He fixed the bug that was found about 10 pages ago. Interaction between the MC and Todd in the classroom.

 

[colombianhoes]

Don't think that will work since there is no NTR in the game.

I think it gives you some option to enable or disable these kinks, unless i remember it from different game.
Im pretty sure this game has it tho

 

[Runner17]

I think it gives you some option to enable or disable these kinks, unless i remember it from different game.
Im pretty sure this game has it tho

that's where all the discussions came from. For me its an NTS/Sharing game. People just have different opinions. Most of all, just enjoy the game.

 

[blkcrow20]

It's a sharing/swinging game, no cheating at all. Everything is consensual.

 

[Maximilian87]

that's where all the discussions came from. For me its an NTS/Sharing game. People just have different opinions. Most of all, just enjoy the game.

i think the discussion came from mostly this description:

Overview:
This is a journey of Zach and his new friends.
After dealing with some personal loss.
Zach slowly comes into some interesting situations.
Choose between caring is sharing, or keep it all for yourself.
Help your friends achieve their desires, or don't!

the keep it all for yourself part, and the help your friends or DON'T. the game is NOT just about sharing, and some were arguing that it was, and you're not welcome if you're not into it or god forbit you try and criticise something that does not align with their views.

 

[Dessolos]

the keep it all for yourself part, and the help your friends or DON'T. the game is NOT just about sharing, and some were arguing that it was, and you're not welcome if you're not into it or god forbit you try and criticise something that does not align with their views.

Until the non sharing path develops more I think it's to early to say if this game is just about sharing or not. As alot of sharing games on this site a no share path usually means you just skip content. which I don't think will be the case here but if that happens it would fall in the realm of mainly a sharing focus imo. Currently tho I don't there is denying sharing has been the main theme of this game. So really until more updates happens I don't think we can say one way or another until we see how the non sharing path is handled.

 

[blkcrow20]

No, it is not a sharing only game.

 

[Lady Lydia]

I don't think he's behind the murder, I hope not because, I enjoy there interactions. Just curious, on how he has all the information beforehand. You really made me think about some ideas.

Regretfully, I'm here for the sex/sharing and what I thought was a light plot until each of your mega post. . Plus the girls are sexy as hell.

Well the reason for the possibility that Todd is the murderer is because someone took the image of the car that ran off the MC's family's car into a big rock, and lit up the image and it showed a figure resembling Todd or Frank, looking at the picture I looked a bit more like Todd to me, which is why I sided with this theory, if the Dev took the time to add an actual figure driving that care rather than just a shadow, its quite possible it was meant to identify the murderer early.

Now I can imagine some scenarios where Todd might have done so and still be a decent guy, if the MC's Dad was secretly a completely asshole... which frankly considering the will... just giving the MC 2k and basically saying either you start from scratch or you follow the exact path I set for you which also is partly secret for the heck of it, makes me think he might have possibly have been enough of an asshole to justify getting murdered.

At first glance yea this story gives the impression of being a 'light plot' right until you stumble over the several elements clearly shown within the story which imply a number of mysteries and possible plots & schemes. I mean sure the whole thing about Todd being possibly the killer due to an image might trying to find some plot where their isn't but the stuff about the 'Nurse' for example, their are clear signs of anomaly on her part, she knows things she shouldn't know and is clearly invested in having him follow a specific path.

The Dean is also fairly weird, she clearly knew his father personally, but its difficult to say quite the nature of their relationship, considering the fairly poor set up she gave to the MC it imply she has some personal issues against his father that carried over or considering she knows the lawyer and the 'nurse' it might all be part of some scheme the father had for his son.

The fact like someone mentioned that during the shower scene when the sports team pass by and their is a mention of a Sam clearly implied to work at the Pink Box, and which seem to haven't been around in a while... while the MC's I assume stepmom is named Sam and has died a month before... so... yea its not a light plot, their is a multilayered plot involved in this story which does in my case supply me with interest, and I am interested in Devon, however yea I am not having the MC share Devon with anyone, I am fine with the MC getting shared with the girlfriends of the various guys, but Devon is for the MC alone. Although as I stated before even for a porn game the attitude of the characters in the game is way over the top in term of willingness to share by the guys and willingness to be shared by the girls, its insane how little single girls the MC get VS shared girls.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

It's like, high-five, we're buds, let's swap. High-five bro.
To us non-NTR dudes, it's not a high-five, but a punch to the face.
To a guy that hates NTR, any other dude inserting his penis into their girl is NTR.

Harem vs NTR, is like a Territorial Barbarian Warrior framework vs. a Free Love Hippie framework.
They just won't mesh.

Ye except this characterization inverts the power dynamics.

Being a DIK doesn't hide from the darkness of reality, but there is so much light and heart in it.
Mastering the Pink Box is consumed by darkness, that there are no redeeming factors.
It's only made for those with a NTR/NTS/Corruption kinks.

I couldn't disagree more strongly. BADIK's approach to prostitution is such a phony veneer obviously meant to cater to incel fantasies: there's zero weight to it. In the REAL world, if and when that kind of thing existed, MC would have a rude awakening and find out not only were Quinn and Camilla and Sarah working there, but either Maya or Josy did a quick stint too. I can enjoy games like badik but I don't pretend they're love sonnets.

In MTBP, there's MUCH more heart as you actually see the characters getting their own. A friend like Bob would be over the moon at getting jerked/blown by Debbie, and any normal friend would be estactic that his dorky friend finally got some action.

Now - I do wish MTPB had more interplay with jealousy as that's a realistic element, he does have variables for a lot of the characters relationships so he might use them in future.

 

[TonyMurray]

the keep it all for yourself part, and the help your friends or DON'T. the game is NOT just about sharing, and some were arguing that it was, and you're not welcome if you're not into it or god forbit you try and criticise something that does not align with their views.

Everyone's welcome to play the game, and I've not seen anyone say otherwise. What I have seen, and what I echo, is that regulars aren't so accomodating of people coming and complaining about the sharing in the game, when it's a bit part of the game and is highlighted as being part of the game. It's not like it suddenly creeps up and hits you in the face.

Back to the BaDIK references, as Dessolos said a page or two back, I also did not get any BaDIK vibes here at all. It's set in a college and that's it. The theme setting comes pretty early on with Jules getting a notification through the PB app and grabbing MC for a blowjob to complete the task. Then the second sex scene is when you catch a couple going at it and they invite you, a stranger, to join in. Even if you don't get the full details on what the PB club is for a while, just thinking it's a strip club doesn't somehow make this game like BaDIK.

 

[Polyphem]

Daves shoes are interesting.

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

I have a simple question: Is it possible to avoid the "Misty" story path? Don t get me wrong....Misty is attractive and all that, and Todd s cuckold fetish is fine for some......but i really don t like the dynamic between Misty, Todd, and my MC. It feels strange or wrong, though i m not sure how to explain it. The forced scenes are also really odd, especially if you, as a player, don t particularly like Misty. For example, if you re on the "Devon" path (which i am ofc), the dialogues.....and especially the characters inner monologues.....between Devon and the MC don t align with the whole "Misty s so hot, yada yada yada" vibe. On one hand, my MC is clearly smitten with Devon (he s already thinking about the big "L" word), and Devon seems to be talking about a serious, committed relationship (both characters are, actually). But then, as soon as they re around Misty and Todd, they act like dumb, horny teenagers, both lusting after each other s partners. Devon even asks the MC if he s okay with her getting closer to Todd, while the MC.....despite being "kind of" in love with Devon.....openly lusts after Misty! I mean, who does that?! I hope you catch my drift, but these situations feel completely off. If Devon and the MC are committed to each other, the MC s thoughts about Misty shouldn t exist, and the secret touches and all that shouldn t be happening either.

 

[Canto Forte]

The mindset is something like Douce Bigalow, only the hang-up is that MC is not of that world, not of the boys' world, not of the girls' world, and there is nothing special about him.

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