JGreen90

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It figured. Thanks. Outside of any aesthetics. Shame. It should. There's quite a few empty spaces, it needs more tailoring, like a game's room, or a trophy room, Ballroom. The Bdsm options are also lacking, a single rack, there should be more stuff there.
 
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Poppin81

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Past a certain threshold, NPC beauty does not really have any gameplay mechanics that matter. It's just that for some people (like me) it's a "collector's item" because it is the most capped stat in the game.

He has Bratty by default. I agree he should have a way to get rid of it, but in my experience the only really annoying part of it for Felix is the -20 to Homeschooling.

What is your opinion on the different religions? Which one do you think is best?
 

UnrulyMadlyDeeply

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Named recruited NPCs all have preset traits bar a roll of perhaps one or two of them. You really have to muck around to get the perfect traits on them. Some will never be different, but the majority have a subtle variance of maybe one or two traits that change outside of a base that won't. It takes multiple rolls to get the perfect ones matching.
I understand many of the traits are predetermined but the wiki doesn't show bratty as one for Felix so I wanted to check. it also says in some cases the traits are set when you first meet them and if I am not mistaken I read somewhere that they are locked when you enter the region for the first time not just speak to them and in my limited play time that seems to run true, without me being able to see the code (no PC atm is a pain, saving and waiting for team red GPU to improve). For example if you save before visiting Crystal Hills for the first time, then recruit Enya her traits only seem to randomise if you haven't been in the region, once you have visited the options seem locked with whatever they were when you first entered, so if I am correct you can get an RNG trait roll from your pre entry save, but not post entry.
 

JGreen90

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I understand many of the traits are predetermined but the wiki doesn't show bratty as one for Felix so I wanted to check. it also says in some cases the traits are set when you first meet them and if I am not mistaken I read somewhere that they are locked when you enter the region for the first time not just speak to them and in my limited play time that seems to run true, without me being able to see the code (no PC atm is a pain, saving and waiting for team red GPU to improve). For example if you save before visiting Crystal Hills for the first time, then recruit Enya her traits only seem to randomise if you haven't been in the region, once you have visited the options seem locked with whatever they were when you first entered, so if I am correct you can get an RNG trait roll from your pre entry save, but not post entry.
There are preset traits, but there is a subtle variance to them of one or two that change on most if not all npcs. Not all I think some are absolutely locked. Felix isn't completely locked but I might be wrong, but like Bud, not sure if he changes bratty, Felix will always have bratty? I think you can roll a few others different in the mix. Ansel and Evelyn, had the same ones.

They've made it easier now to roll different traits, that variance. Just save your game, buy, and teleport back to house, repeat. Others like Michelle, buy her flat out first. Add her later. Int girl, on the ring quest from Raikan, kill the punks capture cybergirl. Leave her there. Save, and above. The same as Astrid, in the tower. Nicole it took a few rolls is a brawler/warrior. Never used her for arena before but she has an animation, get in there.

Always save before you buy.
 
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UnrulyMadlyDeeply

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Past a certain threshold, NPC beauty does not really have any gameplay mechanics that matter. It's just that for some people (like me) it's a "collector's item" because it is the most capped stat in the game.

He has Bratty by default. I agree he should have a way to get rid of it, but in my experience the only really annoying part of it for Felix is the -20 to Homeschooling.
Regarding beauty, if I am correct it just seems to be a number on the screen if you don't intend to sell so I thought it made better sense to go for the intelligence for workshop, educator purposes for my first playthrough just to get a handle on what works. Although I don't know if +120 intelligence makes a difference for the foreman calculations but when I got 132 I wasn't saying no, I think it was +86 on the generator and as I went full business on my character it made more sense.

I just wanted to check re Felix as I said to JGreen90 the wiki doesn't mention it and i wasn't sure if I missed something in the patch notes.
 

JGreen90

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Regarding beauty, if I am correct it just seems to be a number on the screen if you don't intend to sell so I thought it made better sense to go for the intelligence for workshop, educator purposes for my first playthrough just to get a handle on what works. Although I don't know if +120 intelligence makes a difference for the foreman calculations but when I got 132 I wasn't saying no, I think it was +86 on the generator and as I went full business on my character it made more sense.

I just wanted to check re Felix as I said to JGreen90 the wiki doesn't mention it and i wasn't sure if I missed something in the patch notes.
I use high Intelligence Stormchild and Int girl from the ring quest as mind educators. My three foreman are 100 Int now, educator doesn't go higher than 100 int. Discipline, all staff are at 100, except Talika 133 discipline, I am using the Akira guy the single swordsman from Stokkehills he started with 70 int, and Helo started at 60. I haven't educated the workermen, all workaholics all at 100 discipline. Int not got around to it on workemen. Educators are busy with other people, scavs, maids, and such.
 

UnrulyMadlyDeeply

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There are preset traits, but there is a subtle variance to them of one or two that change on most if not all npcs. Not all I think some are absolutely locked. Felix isn't completely locked but I might be wrong, but like Bud, not sure if he changes bratty, Felix will always have bratty? I think you can roll a few others different in the mix. Ansel and Evelyn, had the same ones.

They've made it easier now to roll different traits, that variance. Just save your game, buy, and teleport back to house, repeat. Others like Michelle, buy her flat out first. Add her later. Int girl, on the ring quest from Raikan, kill the punks capture cybergirl. Leave her there. Save, and above. The same as Astrid, in the tower. Nicole it took a few rolls is a brawler/warrior. Never used her for arena before but she has an animation, get in there.

Always save before you buy.
Yes I agree on the pre save. I tend to do before entering areas and fights, as it seems that sometimes captured NPC's come with guaranteed Jaded or addict however many times you reroll and I just redo the fight as it's easier, especially as I have party animal and 3 jesters so far, I just need to build the jaccuzi but workshop first.
 

D3xter_

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Hello, I could use someone's help with "Golden Papers" quest from Divine Juices Taverns.
wiki:Golden Papers: A small quest you can pick up from "Rumors and Jobs" in Divine Juices tavern.
But I dont see this quest, i even start new game and in "Rumors and Jobs" only 3 quests (Strange-Looking Mercenary, A Breath From The Past and Cybernetic Freebooters).
 

UnrulyMadlyDeeply

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I use high Intelligence Stormchild and Int girl from the ring quest as mind educators. My three foreman are 100 Int now, educator doesn't go higher than 100 int. Discipline, all staff are at 100, except Talika 133 discipline, I am using the Akira guy the single swordsman from Stokkehills he started with 70 int, and Helo started at 60. I haven't educated the workermen, all workaholics all at 100 discipline. Int not got around to it on workemen. Educators are busy with other people, scavs, maids, and such.
Thanks for the info, You and Clemency give nice info, even if you had a funny spat over Stormchild and yes I did get her from Crystal Hills, it was quicker for me to re roll to get a stormy day then go to Crystal Hills and I like to run different routes in my games to test what is optimum before diving in too deep, I have too many battle scars from games springing surprises and wrecking my playthrough I like the strategic parts of games and after over 40 year's of gaming (I remember when pong came out) I play for fun and empire building.
 
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Poppin81

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Hello, I could use someone's help with "Golden Papers" quest from Divine Juices Taverns.
wiki:Golden Papers: A small quest you can pick up from "Rumors and Jobs" in Divine Juices tavern.
But I dont see this quest, i even start new game and in "Rumors and Jobs" only 3 quests (Strange-Looking Mercenary, A Breath From The Past and Cybernetic Freebooters).

It's a run on quest from the a breath from the past one I believe. You hack the vault and get a book that opens that very short quest.
 

Zarkhy

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Hello, I could use someone's help with "Golden Papers" quest from Divine Juices Taverns.
wiki:Golden Papers: A small quest you can pick up from "Rumors and Jobs" in Divine Juices tavern.
But I dont see this quest, i even start new game and in "Rumors and Jobs" only 3 quests (Strange-Looking Mercenary, A Breath From The Past and Cybernetic Freebooters).
Yep, Golden Papers is one of those three.
 

Clemency

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What does dissidence do? and what are the unavailable options in the senate meetings? What is the Prometheus trade modifier?
Haven't tested dissidence. Unavailable options are unavailable. They are not implemented yet in the game.

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What is your opinion on the different religions? Which one do you think is best?
For the MC? It's one of those things that is highly dependent on how you play. Atheism gives you the most flexibility, while Aesir optimizes you for combat and allows you to fast track your followers' conversion to and gaining devotion for Aesir, which also gives them a very minor combat bonus.

The thing about Aesirs is that they have the most amount of "this religion does not like you" so girls with devotion higher than 60 for several religions will always apply a massive -200 modifier to their chance to agree to marriage, so you have to convert them first or lower their devotion/willpower. Also, the Catholic Church will not accept donations from you, which is a conundrum for the late game because Zapin Fields will net you a lot of rations that would be nice to donate to the church for passive income stream. But if you are just playing to experience content for this game and are not particularly concerned about marriage or passive income at thousands of days in, it does not matter as much.
Regarding beauty, if I am correct it just seems to be a number on the screen if you don't intend to sell
Even for selling, there's a cap to the price. Alex keeps the slave price calculation updated in the wiki and the max beauty needed to get max price is 88. A 180 Beauty girl is just as valuable as an 88 Beauty one for selling.
 

greatkahn

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Code:
Sugarcube.State.variables.oldmonk=undefined
^ (haruto) Talika
Code:
Sugarcube.State.variables.tuner=undefined
^ tuner

should reset the bounty.
the rest aren't unique, not worth your time.
I had to cap up the C in Sugarcube, but this looks like it worked, thanks!
 

D3xter_

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It's a run on quest from the a breath from the past one I believe. You hack the vault and get a book that opens that very short quest.
The quest from which the cyber cannon is taken? Are you saying that golden papers = a breath from the past?
Was there anything like that in that quest?
Hello, I could use someone's help with locating Janus Geller ("Golden Papers" quest from one of the Taverns). I checked Town Hall records, and it confirms he should be living in Crow's End, I also read Marcus Wright's journal from my library, but I can't find Geller nor his dwelling.
I keep a good eye on the task log, and I don't remember seeing the golden papers quest in it. And considering that there were already questions about this quest in this thread, I came to the conclusion that the golden papers quest either has some unusual conditions or is not available in the latest versions.
Yep, Golden Papers is one of those three.
Are you sure? According to the wiki, there should be 4 quests to choose from in the tavern.
 

Poppin81

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For the MC? It's one of those things that is highly dependent on how you play. Atheism gives you the most flexibility, while Aesir optimizes you for combat and allows you to fast track your followers' conversion to and gaining devotion for Aesir, which also gives them a very minor combat bonus.

The thing about Aesirs is that they have the most amount of "this religion does not like you" so girls with devotion higher than 60 for several religions will always apply a massive -200 modifier to their chance to agree to marriage, so you have to convert them first or lower their devotion/willpower. Also, the Catholic Church will not accept donations from you, which is a conundrum for the late game because Zapin Fields will net you a lot of rations that would be nice to donate to the church for passive income stream. But if you are just playing to experience content for this game and are not particularly concerned about marriage or passive income at thousands of days in, it does not matter as much.

Yeah for the MC. I've been using Atheism to get my willpower up but I hit 100 now so I'm gonna change it, but I should probably wait until after I read the occult books as they hammer your willpower and I'll need to get it back up. Will definitely switch to Aesir for the Dengi invasion though just to get the little combat buff but it's still 2 years out in my current save. I haven't done Dengi yet but judging by some of the posts on here it gets kind of hard. Somebody posted on here that it's better to farm the Dengi rather than complete it as you get more out of it.
 

Poppin81

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The quest from which the cyber cannon is taken? Are you saying that golden papers = a breath from the past?
Was there anything like that in that quest?

I keep a good eye on the task log, and I don't remember seeing the golden papers quest in it. And considering that there were already questions about this quest in this thread, I came to the conclusion that the golden papers quest either has some unusual conditions or is not available in the latest versions.

Are you sure? According to the wiki, there should be 4 quests to choose from in the tavern.
It doesn't show up in Divine Juices and it is the cybernetic freebooters one I misremembered. They got a book you loot after killing them. Read said book and it automatically adds golden papers to your journal. It takes all of 2 minutes to finish.
 
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Chakas

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I can't imprison NPC? Just finished one of the starting quest and captured mae but I can't send her to jail. Also, is it worth it send to jainor try myluckwith the escape risk while increasing affection?

Edit: Nvm, reloaded a save before taking her into household and now i see the option lol. But it sure as hell wasn't there before. Still want to know about the jail advantages
 
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a3on

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Even for selling, there's a cap to the price. Alex keeps the slave price calculation updated in the wiki and the max beauty needed to get max price is 88. A 180 Beauty girl is just as valuable as an 88 Beauty one for selling.
the only instance i know that made full use of beauty is tavern prostitute. although to be fair, it add several other attributes and divide those by 4. so even if your npc have high beauty, they're unlikely to make a big difference, given the possible max beauty is 145 for npcs. and most will be capped at around 85-89.
 
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