HTML Masters of Raana [v0.8.4.6] [GrimDark]

[khumak]

I've not played a lot recently, being busy with work and waiting for this update as I had a feeling I'd abandon any game I was in to try the character creation system, and I was right. I finally got one start to the forth day and now am trying again as I found out that if you don't take care of Roo and Niko's problems right away their establishments are abandoned!

I hear you on the work thing. I've been really busy lately as well so I haven't been able to play much either.

The "abandoned" sites aren't actually abandoned, you just have to kill/capture whatever bandits spawned nearby and they'll be open for business again. If you play with dying world active I think they keep spawning frequently until you get control up to some minimal threshold. I'm not sure how high that is, maybe 20 or something? So you'll have lots of bandits to fight and frequently you'll be blocked from going to certain zones until you clear them. I couldn't even walk from Redhaven to Hamilton square one day without clearing some bandits blocking the way. Personally I like that but some might find it annoying.

How annoying or lucrative those bandits are is heavily RNG dependent as well. Sometimes you get sledgers, sometimes you get marines with assault rifles, and sometimes you get a group with 3 girls and a dude which is IMO by far the best one. If you save scum them you can always get the group with the girls, which means you can end up with a LOT of free female slaves very quickly.

From what I noticed, the extra bandits don't start spawning until day 2. So day 1 I pick up Ansel, Peasant, Bud, Doyle, Rifle Savant, Loren, and Dexter and that gives me enough combat strength to clear out any bandits that get in my way on day 2. I usually go pick up Felix and Aiko on day 2 or 3 as well, and Felix packs a significant punch that early.

I make sure to capture at least 1 slave in every fight and I sell all of the males for about the first month because I have so many things I need money for. I keep all the females.

I took advantage of a little...trick...I learned about the character creation system. We won't call it an exploit of course because then it might get taken away, but if you raise your Charm manually on the Attributes page to get enough to take 'Attractive' you can then reduce it after getting the free ten points and end up with a Charm of 41.

Yeah there are a few bugs in the character creation screen that lets you cheese your way to traits you don't really qualify for if you do things like that.

I usually take 2 levels of soldier to qualify for deadly strike and tough and then go with expert slaver so I can have the story version of Adora. I haven't had enough time to play far enough to even know what her quest is yet but she's guaranteed to have workaholic and perfectionist if you take expert slaver which is a nice bonus. There's another random slave down in South Redhaven named Kate who is guaranteed to always have Shadowborn, which is essentially the equivalent of a stealth suit without requiring the actual suit.

 

[Gunner Rey]

I hear you on the work thing. I've been really busy lately as well so I haven't been able to play much either.

The "abandoned" sites aren't actually abandoned, you just have to kill/capture whatever bandits spawned nearby and they'll be open for business again. If you play with dying world active I think they keep spawning frequently until you get control up to some minimal threshold. I'm not sure how high that is, maybe 20 or something? So you'll have lots of bandits to fight and frequently you'll be blocked from going to certain zones until you clear them. I couldn't even walk from Redhaven to Hamilton square one day without clearing some bandits blocking the way. Personally I like that but some might find it annoying.

Ah, good to know, maybe I'll go back to that game if I can get Nico back. I thought I cleared them all and he was still closed but maybe I missed one or didn't wait long enough. I did get to his Holiday Dresses and wasn't able to give them to him--I'll try again.

I like that too, more training and booty. Quite literally on the latter if you get those girls it seems.

How annoying or lucrative those bandits are is heavily RNG dependent as well. Sometimes you get sledgers, sometimes you get marines with assault rifles, and sometimes you get a group with 3 girls and a dude which is IMO by far the best one. If you save scum them you can always get the group with the girls, which means you can end up with a LOT of free female slaves very quickly.

From what I noticed, the extra bandits don't start spawning until day 2. So day 1 I pick up Ansel, Peasant, Bud, Doyle, Rifle Savant, Loren, and Dexter and that gives me enough combat strength to clear out any bandits that get in my way on day 2. I usually go pick up Felix and Aiko on day 2 or 3 as well, and Felix packs a significant punch that early.

I make sure to capture at least 1 slave in every fight and I sell all of the males for about the first month because I have so many things I need money for. I keep all the females.

Thanks for the info!

I keep all the girls too, and will pretend the other ones ran and I didn't really kill them. I load up on the mercs early too for similar reasons, often I just take the Savant's rifle and send him home to be a Janitor/Scavenger. That poor man has died or dropped under my command so many times I feel guilty about it.

Yeah there are a few bugs in the character creation screen that lets you cheese your way to traits you don't really qualify for if you do things like that.

Oh, really? Pray tell. Some people around here consider cheese an art form. We're just taking what the game is giving us! What else can you get away with? I've tried it with INT and Brainy and it doesn't work, just for Charm and Attractive.

I usually take 2 levels of soldier to qualify for deadly strike and tough and then go with expert slaver so I can have the story version of Adora. I haven't had enough time to play far enough to even know what her quest is yet but she's guaranteed to have workaholic and perfectionist if you take expert slaver which is a nice bonus. There's another random slave down in South Redhaven named Kate who is guaranteed to always have Shadowborn, which is essentially the equivalent of a stealth suit without requiring the actual suit.

This game I had abandoned I took Slaver-3 for the same reasons, I thought I'd gotten extraordinarily lucky with the traits, I didn't realize she was hardwired that way. That's a good idea though, the 'prize' should be worth more than a random you can pick up off the street.

I can't remember what else I took though. There's a way to find the traits but I don't think the Skill classes are listed. I can probably figure it out from where my skills ended up, they've not gone up much in four days playing.

I'll look for Kate, I didn't know there was even a thing known as Shadowborn.

 

[khumak]

Oh, really? Pray tell. Some people around here consider cheese an art form. We're just taking what the game is giving us! What else can you get away with? I've tried it with INT and Brainy and it doesn't work, just for Charm and Attractive.

You used to be able to do it with the skill classes but I reported that as a bug and Grim fixed it. You can still pick Adonis or Superb in the enhanced section, use the stats from those to pick a trait with a skill minimum, and then remove Adonis and/or Superb and keep the traits you no longer qualify for. I think a few of the normal traits also boost a stat or two and work the same way but I don't remember which ones. I assume Grim will fix those later. I think you can also adjust your age and use the stat boosts from that the same way and then change your age to whatever later but I didn't think to try that.

I'll look for Kate, I didn't know there was even a thing known as Shadowborn.

She's definitely worth it. She always has really good stats. She's in one of the random groups of bandits in South Redhaven so make sure to capture the girls in there. I'm not sure what else she's guaranteed to have for traits. This is how she turned out for me without any save scumming and without any training yet.

 

[Gunner Rey]

You used to be able to do it with the skill classes but I reported that as a bug and Grim fixed it. You can still pick Adonis or Superb in the enhanced section, use the stats from those to pick a trait with a skill minimum, and then remove Adonis and/or Superb and keep the traits you no longer qualify for. I think a few of the normal traits also boost a stat or two and work the same way but I don't remember which ones. I assume Grim will fix those later. I think you can also adjust your age and use the stat boosts from that the same way and then change your age to whatever later but I didn't think to try that.

Thank you for the details, obviously some of those are different than my little trick as you get nothing for free and still qualify after and you're giving back points in the end. You could think of it as as free way for experienced character creators to get a 'big dick' out of Attractive if they have to because they ran out of points. That kind of makes sense right?

At any rate that's my story and I'm sticking to it!

She's definitely worth it. She always has really good stats. She's in one of the random groups of bandits in South Redhaven so make sure to capture the girls in there. I'm not sure what else she's guaranteed to have for traits. This is how she turned out for me without any save scumming and without any training yet.

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Thanks for the rundown, I've not yet explored South Redhaven much, I keep forgetting it's there. Roaming bands of slavegirls to be harvested makes me want to go there now.

That is a nice combination of traits, her avatar pic makes her look about forty though.

 

[bolondro2]

My households these days usually end up with high Corruption and Willpower, but little Emancipation. Like 80+ in most cases outside the newest additions, and single digit Emancipation.

Can you care to elaborate a bit how it works?.

Per wiki

There's a popup (click the question mark just above the stat holders) that explains what they do and how to affect them. In short, household stats get "soaked" by NPCs that are currently occupying your household. If an NPC "successfully" soaks one Corruption point, his Corruption also increases with one point. A soaked Depravity point means that the NPC's Happiness goes down with one point, and so forth

• Emancipation: A sign of your home's equality and democratic values. Active NPC attribute: WILLPOWER (+).

My first interpretation of this was "If your NPC have high willpower, you will have a high Emancipation value", but after your statement and a second reading, I´m not sure if I understood it right. In fact, I´m almost sure that I have understood it wrong.

 

[Clemency]

Wait, so is it 280 points for skill classes and then another 280 points for attributes and traits?

Or am I left with 80 points after I spent 200 to get Expert Scholar for example? Should be this, yes?

 

[Gunner Rey]

Wait, so is it 280 points for skill classes and then another 280 points for attributes and traits?

Or am I left with 80 points after I spent 200 to get Expert Scholar for example? Should be this, yes?

You get 280 points total, so you'll be left with 80 once you get Expert Scholar.

 

[Gunner Rey]

Can you care to elaborate a bit how it works?.

Per wiki

There's a popup (click the question mark just above the stat holders) that explains what they do and how to affect them. In short, household stats get "soaked" by NPCs that are currently occupying your household. If an NPC "successfully" soaks one Corruption point, his Corruption also increases with one point. A soaked Depravity point means that the NPC's Happiness goes down with one point, and so forth

• Emancipation: A sign of your home's equality and democratic values. Active NPC attribute: WILLPOWER (+).

My first interpretation of this was "If your NPC have high willpower, you will have a high Emancipation value", but after your statement and a second reading, I´m not sure if I understood it right. In fact, I´m almost sure that I have understood it wrong.

That looks like something that's fairly new, I've...err...not gotten very far with the newest updates, I keep restarting to try the Character Creation again. Before I'd occasionally get some Emancipation points but they'd all be single digits, from what you posted it looks like I might have quite a bit more if I keep allowing my girls to stay at 80+ Willpower.

 

[Clemency]

Oof. I am going to need to go for combat veteran to even guarantee enough melee stats for deadly strike. Or maybe it will be more efficient to get attributes directly (if possible) and ignore expert traits. I would hate to be much dumber than my girls though. Well, it is a given, since Luckie, Averil, and the stormchild are guaranteed to be, with their start. But I at least want to be at 80 int, be able to engage Caitlyn in stimulating conversations. I wonder if I could reach 75-80 int without heavy RNG reliance and without a Brainy trait (for bonus stat gains) or extra starting int stats.

 

[bolondro2]

That looks like something that's fairly new, I've...err...not gotten very far with the newest updates, I keep restarting to try the Character Creation again. Before I'd occasionally get some Emancipation points but they'd all be single digits, from what you posted it looks like I might have quite a bit more if I keep allowing my girls to stay at 80+ Willpower.

You picked my curiosity and I have checked my most advanced run, 166 days deep. And to my surprise 4 of my slaves have Will 66. And the other 4, they have 67.

That´s too consistent to be a coincidence. Yes, the lifestyle of the slaves are very similar. All of them are in the riding academy, 7 of 8 are science professors, and 7/8 whore herself at night, and all of them share my bed once each 10 days, but they start from very diverging points. I checked an early save of the same run, day 64 and the spread of will went from 85 to 18.

Just a curiosity to share...

 

[Clemency]

You picked my curiosity and I have checked my most advanced run, 166 days deep. And to my surprise 4 of my slaves have Will 66. And the other 4, they have 67.

That´s too consistent to be a coincidence. Yes, the lifestyle of the slaves are very similar. All of them are in the riding academy, 7 of 8 are science professors, and 7/8 whore herself at night, and all of them share my bed once each 10 days, but they start from very diverging points. I checked an early save of the same run, day 64 and the spread of will went from 85 to 18.

Just a curiosity to share...

Girls with the Advocate trait tend to pull your girls' willpower to their level according to the in-game description (0.8.2.3c public). Probably Aria and Caitlyn doing it. Caitlyn is not guaranteed to always come with advocate but given everything I have read, she really likes to roll with it. Rebecca and Juno comes with it but it is a discipline and intelligence based roll and they start with a lower int.

 

[HereandNow2022]

I've got the game open right now with latest build. House "Emancipation" is raised by uncorrupted feminists and uncorrupted Advocates with willpower over 39.

 

[bolondro2]

Girls with the Advocate trait tend to pull your girls' willpower to their level according to the in-game description (0.8.2.3c public). Probably Aria and Caitlyn doing it. Caitlyn is not guaranteed to always come with advocate but given everything I have read, she really likes to roll with it. Rebecca and Juno comes with it but it is a discipline and intelligence based roll and they start with a lower int.

May be this it´s the cause. Aria and Nicole have this trait, and her Int are 67 and 74, and her Discipline 70 in both cases.

But I´m in doubt. In the same run, day 64 her willpower was 77 and 84 respectively. It it were as you say, you can expect that they went to 80-81 and then the rest of the slaves go to 80. But the point of convergency it´s 66-67.

Misterys of Raana!! I supposse

 

[khumak]

Oof. I am going to need to go for combat veteran to even guarantee enough melee stats for deadly strike. Or maybe it will be more efficient to get attributes directly (if possible) and ignore expert traits. I would hate to be much dumber than my girls though. Well, it is a given, since Luckie, Averil, and the stormchild are guaranteed to be, with their start. But I at least want to be at 80 int, be able to engage Caitlyn in stimulating conversations. I wonder if I could reach 75-80 int without heavy RNG reliance and without a Brainy trait (for bonus stat gains) or extra starting int stats.

Things could change, but as far as I could tell the only way to qualify for Deadly Strike without an enhanced start was to take at least 2 levels of soldier. Hunter also gives melee but not enough on it's own to qualify for Deadly Strike unless maybe you go for the expert level. I prefer expert slaver for the story version of Adora.

It's still possible to take enough disadvantages to have enough points to get expert in something other than soldier if you do that but it's cutting it pretty close. You can't directly increase melee so far. If you take an enhanced start you have a lot more points to play with.

Int is not as important as it used to be though. My understanding is that it has no effect on the rewards you get from classes or books now, it instead affects how long it takes to complete them. I have not tested this at low int though. There's not really any reliable way to raise int yet without F5 unless you're rich enough to do a LOT of extravagant weddings. There is a new option to raise some stats by studying in your home library but getting it set up is expensive so I haven't tried it yet. Not really sure how it works or how repeatable it is.

 

[Gunner Rey]

I've got the game open right now with latest build. House "Emancipation" is raised by uncorrupted feminists and uncorrupted Advocates with willpower over 39.

Well that explains it, there are no uncorrupted females in my Households, given time.

 

[Gunner Rey]

Things could change, but as far as I could tell the only way to qualify for Deadly Strike without an enhanced start was to take at least 2 levels of soldier. Hunter also gives melee but not enough on it's own to qualify for Deadly Strike unless maybe you go for the expert level. I prefer expert slaver for the story version of Adora.

It's still possible to take enough disadvantages to have enough points to get expert in something other than soldier if you do that but it's cutting it pretty close. You can't directly increase melee so far. If you take an enhanced start you have a lot more points to play with.

Int is not as important as it used to be though. My understanding is that it has no effect on the rewards you get from classes or books now, it instead affects how long it takes to complete them. I have not tested this at low int though. There's not really any reliable way to raise int yet without F5 unless you're rich enough to do a LOT of extravagant weddings. There is a new option to raise some stats by studying in your home library but getting it set up is expensive so I haven't tried it yet. Not really sure how it works or how repeatable it is.

Expert Hunter and Novice Soldier gets you there, if you want to go that way. I'm kinda surprised Slaver doesn't give at least some points as you'd think an experienced slaver would have had to grapple with surly slaves at some point.

What is Adora's quest amount to? As I recall Grimdark hinted it would have a combat application of some sort.

I got Kate now. She does look better in her full pictures but her attributes weren't as good as yours. I ended up with Brawler and Starlet to go with Shadowborn. Kinda meh but it turns out she qualifies for the Golden Dragon out of the box that way. I was surprised her Charisma started so high, but I'll take it. Most everything else isn't going as good, Tendstims are 2850 RD a crate now and Telika and Haruto Pai just sliced and diced me for 12 of them, more than half a crate. Ouch. She turned out to be a Perverted Nerd which means no Arena for her, but I'll have some fun with her at least.

 

[khumak]

Expert Hunter and Novice Soldier gets you there, if you want to go that way. I'm kinda surprised Slaver doesn't give at least some points as you'd think an experienced slaver would have had to grapple with surly slaves at some point.

What is Adora's quest amount to? As I recall Grimdark hinted it would have a combat application of some sort.

I got Kate now. She does look better in her full pictures but her attributes weren't as good as yours. I ended up with Brawler and Starlet to go with Shadowborn. Kinda meh but it turns out she qualifies for the Golden Dragon out of the box that way. I was surprised her Charisma started so high, but I'll take it. Most everything else isn't going as good, Tendstims are 2850 RD a crate now and Telika and Haruto Pai just sliced and diced me for 12 of them, more than half a crate. Ouch. She turned out to be a Perverted Nerd which means no Arena for her, but I'll have some fun with her at least.

Haven't gotten far enough to know what Adora's quest is yet. I just made it to day 30 so I have minimal house upgrades so far. I rounded up most of the mercs as well as a bunch of slaves, got my Gazebo up and running with the pool upgrade so I can start doing pool parties to make some progress with the girls, and just got my workshop fully upgraded minus the final tools upgrade. So now I can actually start making money for upgrades.

I did stumble into 1 more bit of cheese involving Armand. Stat gains for everyone in your household are calculated at midnight. So if you pick Armand up early and send him off to the academy you can save scum your way to a VERY highly educated Armand without missing much in the way of accountant income. This is my Armand on day 30 (I didn't save scum every day). I'm not sure what the caps are for him but I'm betting I can get his Int to 100 before I have enough investments to miss much. My favorite option for that lately is to just throw a pool party every night just before midnight. Most of my girls still hate me so I'm not really sexing anyone up yet.

 

[Gunner Rey]

Haven't gotten far enough to know what Adora's quest is yet. I just made it to day 30 so I have minimal house upgrades so far. I rounded up most of the mercs as well as a bunch of slaves, got my Gazebo up and running with the pool upgrade so I can start doing pool parties to make some progress with the girls, and just got my workshop fully upgraded minus the final tools upgrade. So now I can actually start making money for upgrades.

I did stumble into 1 more bit of cheese involving Armand. Stat gains for everyone in your household are calculated at midnight. So if you pick Armand up early and send him off to the academy you can save scum your way to a VERY highly educated Armand without missing much in the way of accountant income. This is my Armand on day 30 (I didn't save scum every day). I'm not sure what the caps are for him but I'm betting I can get his Int to 100 before I have enough investments to miss much. My favorite option for that lately is to just throw a pool party every night just before midnight. Most of my girls still hate me so I'm not really sexing anyone up yet.

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Crystal Hills just opened up for me, I'm afraid I forgot about Armand. I'll get him on my next trip out that way. I'm still barely above water, I've only upgraded my Master Bedroom once as well as my bathroom and gave the dorms a microwave. I've got the Training Dojo and just this morning was going to upgrade it to the next level, couldn't cost more than 5k, right? Wrong! It's 7500 now, ugh.

Odd thing about Kate is she qualifies for the Golden Dragon, she's not Shy and has 70 Dancing, 96 (!) Beauty and 75 Charisma but the option won't open up and the first thing I did when Crystal Hills became available was talk to the owner there. Is it a bug or am I missing something?

Kate and my 'Lonely Bandit Girl' both despise me, but all the others are still neutral. I should probably put in that pool. What's the advantage of throwing a pool party just before midnight outside you don't have to use normal waking hours for most of it?

 

[khumak]

Odd thing about Kate is she qualifies for the Golden Dragon, she's not Shy and has 70 Dancing, 96 (!) Beauty and 75 Charisma but the option won't open up and the first thing I did when Crystal Hills became available was talk to the owner there. Is it a bug or am I missing something?

Hmm, not sure. Mine is not beautiful enough so mine doesn't qualify. I picked up Rosita for that, she always qualifies as long as she's not shy. Aisha's friend also always qualifies (Farah I think?). My science skill is currently horrific so I won't have the hacking skill to get Aisha or her friend for awhile, but Rosita you just need to fuck a few times and then fork over 8k to the owner of Fury's.

Kate and my 'Lonely Bandit Girl' both despise me, but all the others are still neutral. I should probably put in that pool. What's the advantage of throwing a pool party just before midnight outside you don't have to use normal waking hours for most of it?

I was only doing it that late as a way to pass the time until just after midnight so I could see if Armand gained any stats. Normally I prefer to do the pool party a little earlier and fuck someone just before midnight but too many of my girls hate me for that right now. Once I have Armand's stats straightened out I won't worry about who gains what at night, but he's my biggest money maker once I get my investments up and running so I'd like to get his stats sorted out asap.

 

[RavageSavage03]

So, have they added pregnancy for the slaves?