Clemency
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Factions where you can become the leader: The Catholic Church in Westside and Warrior's Hall/Odensborg in Watery Eyes. There's also Fort Sera but that's not hard to miss.
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But to donate to this faction, and ultimately become a leader, shouldn't I "convert"?
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That depends of the faction. For some of them you need to adopt their religion. For some - not.
Some factions can receive donations only from followers, and some don't care. Or care only about enemy.
There is a good and big tutorials in this thread . Search for "faction"
I made a mod for this game that significantly reduces the grind! It saves you around 80% of your time. It adds some extra ugly buttons that will click the in game buttons for you. I might program day schedueler (or something like that) in the future.
Unpack it in the main folder. Check out the script.js file for button descriptions. You can add your own scripts and plan your day (it's easy). The html buttons are at the end of the start_game.html. I didn't change anything else.
Check it out if you're interested!
newer version https://f95zone.to/threads/masters-of-raana-v0-8-3-2-grimdark.100207/post-13882073
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Unpack it in the main folder. Check out the script.js file for button descriptions. You can add your own scripts and plan your day (it's easy). The html buttons are at the end of the start_game.html. I didn't change anything else.
Check it out if you're interested!
newer version https://f95zone.to/threads/masters-of-raana-v0-8-3-2-grimdark.100207/post-13882073
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Kind of curious what other people think about the skill classes. To me there are really 2 main reasons to pick any of the skill classes. One is to boost your stats enough in something to get a trait you want that has minimum requirements you can't get from boosting attributes directly (like Deadly Strike, Wildborn, or Crafter). The other is the expert level special bonus. The special bonus is really the only part of that which makes me consider taking a skill class. Otherwise I would rather spend my points on traits or boosting attributes directly.
I tend to either pick no skill classes at all, or a single expert class and no others.
Here's what I think about the expert skill class bonuses so far after having tried all of them:
Best bonus for the first week of the game:
- Expert Soldier: The combination of good combat stats, 3 free suits of combat armor, and the immediate availability of Einar at a reduced salary makes the first week of the game go much easier than any of the other expert perks.
Best early to mid game bonuses after the first week:
- Expert Doctor: If you're focusing at all on combat, this one saves you so much money on stims that it quickly eclipses the value of Expert Soldier after the first week or so and remains useful for the whole game.
- Expert Scholar: If you're not focusing on combat much, this one gives you a fairly significant permanent income source for the early game plus starts you off with decent academic stats to dig into the classes or books or to start homeschooling your slaves.
Strongest late game bonus:
- Expert Businessman: Oddly enough this one gives you literally nothing in the early game unless you're set on a pure crafter so I would put it as the absolute weakest early game perk but the combination of the workshop bonus plus the investment bonus makes it scale up to be the strongest late game bonus IMO. This is also the only way to start with high enough crafting skill to be able to make most of the best gear yourself without having to grind up stats first. So you can actually make decent money from crafting alone if you wanted to. For me it takes about 2 months for the Entrepreneur income to scale up to more than the bonus you get from Expert Scholar and it continues to scale infinitely after that. Add in the workshop bonus and nothing else comes close to generating the kind of money this bonus provides. Then again, in the late game you have tons of money anyway so that might not matter to you.
RP only bonuses:
- Expert Slaver: This one gives you a free slave that you can just buy if you don't start with her. She's guaranteed to have both Workaholic and Perfectionist but that's just 1 slave. The real reason to take this one is the boost to sex related stats if you want to focus on slave training early.
- Expert Hunter: I found this one to be entirely pointless except during the small window of time where I decide to train up a bunch of my scavengers to 60 survival. That's the only time an extra hunting grounds makes any difference to me. It could be a decent money maker at low prosperity if you were focusing on selling food but once prosperity goes up that kind of dries up.
I tend to either pick no skill classes at all, or a single expert class and no others.
Here's what I think about the expert skill class bonuses so far after having tried all of them:
Best bonus for the first week of the game:
- Expert Soldier: The combination of good combat stats, 3 free suits of combat armor, and the immediate availability of Einar at a reduced salary makes the first week of the game go much easier than any of the other expert perks.
Best early to mid game bonuses after the first week:
- Expert Doctor: If you're focusing at all on combat, this one saves you so much money on stims that it quickly eclipses the value of Expert Soldier after the first week or so and remains useful for the whole game.
- Expert Scholar: If you're not focusing on combat much, this one gives you a fairly significant permanent income source for the early game plus starts you off with decent academic stats to dig into the classes or books or to start homeschooling your slaves.
Strongest late game bonus:
- Expert Businessman: Oddly enough this one gives you literally nothing in the early game unless you're set on a pure crafter so I would put it as the absolute weakest early game perk but the combination of the workshop bonus plus the investment bonus makes it scale up to be the strongest late game bonus IMO. This is also the only way to start with high enough crafting skill to be able to make most of the best gear yourself without having to grind up stats first. So you can actually make decent money from crafting alone if you wanted to. For me it takes about 2 months for the Entrepreneur income to scale up to more than the bonus you get from Expert Scholar and it continues to scale infinitely after that. Add in the workshop bonus and nothing else comes close to generating the kind of money this bonus provides. Then again, in the late game you have tons of money anyway so that might not matter to you.
RP only bonuses:
- Expert Slaver: This one gives you a free slave that you can just buy if you don't start with her. She's guaranteed to have both Workaholic and Perfectionist but that's just 1 slave. The real reason to take this one is the boost to sex related stats if you want to focus on slave training early.
- Expert Hunter: I found this one to be entirely pointless except during the small window of time where I decide to train up a bunch of my scavengers to 60 survival. That's the only time an extra hunting grounds makes any difference to me. It could be a decent money maker at low prosperity if you were focusing on selling food but once prosperity goes up that kind of dries up.
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IIRC if you get her from the expert trait instead of the slave market, she comes with an additional short quest that is unavailable otherwise. Pretty sure I got some WEGA canisters from that quest, too, which are a pain in the ass to get elsewhere.
That's true. I forgot about that. That's actually the main reason I used to take that one, but after finishing the quest it basically just amounts to "here's some free ammo". If it was something more noteworthy I might take it for that. If it was something more like the gold crafting station from Amelia's quest so you could craft unlimited wega ammo then that would be a big deal.
Any strats for defeating urban titans? right now getting my butt kicked hard have duraplate and plasma rifles on all 5 characters. ain't cuttin' the mustard
They're a tough gang. Best to wait til you've got health implants for you and your mercs. Then you may want to consider switching to greatswords. If you have melee and strength at 80+, greatswords do more damage than plasma with power attacks and you can start in the close formation.
You might also try switching to grenade launchers on some of your people if you prefer ranged. Those out damage plasma when you include the splash damage. And finally there are 2 master traits for combat that are extremely powerful that you might want to pick up first. Master Tactician makes everyone on the enemy's side about 75% likely to miss on the enemy's first round. Master of War gives MC a 20 point damage bonus with any weapon he's using.
Also make sure to bring doctor's kits since you may lose someone if they focus fire.
Master Tactician is particularly powerful if you're trying to maximize the damage from grenade launchers since you will end up causing a ton of damage to everyone the first round but probably not killing anyone. You want the enemy to miss that first round so you can kill 2 or 3 of them in round 2.
Nothing is changed. For example if you use from home screen playCardsX3(), mc will go to tavern and play 3 rounds then return home. morningBJ() is self explanatory.
Hunter and Businessman is only temporary requirement for wildborn and crafter traits. As soon as you have added them you can clear the background.
One thing that I suspect is adding bias to your entire analysis, is that you are sort of trying to speedrun.
From my point of view, Grimdark has successfully trapped you in a hamster wheel, where you keep adding running costs that forces you to add even more running costs, when in reality you could just relax and deal with all those stressful things later.
Most people probably starts with the default 30 year old mc.
But why would it be important for him to become sphere master by the age of 31? And if it is important, then why not start at the age of 27?
Expert Academic background literally removes all time pressure. You don't even have to go outside the door, unless there is something specific that you want to do. Like buying a slave or sell food at the market.
Now, I'm not saying that everyone should be a hermit who spends 24 months perfecting all skills before leaving his home for the first time.
I'm just pointing out that it is possible to do so and that different backgrounds can be be more or less helpful for it.
Yes, business connections is the strongest monetary perk, but also the most useless one, since you could simply just add a second workshop with a single worker in it to compensate for not having it. So it only actually makes a difference after you have depleted all resources for production or find 6 (or 4?) possible workshops to be a little too slow in bringing you income.
As mentioned before, I personally prefer to pick no background at all and just pour points directly on intelligence and manipulate skill, because those are very useful and very difficult to max out any other way.
Edit: Next time I start a new game I will most likely go with this 18 year old guy:
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I tested it and it and I think that it is, at the very least, a really impressive proof of concept.
But, yes, those buttons are extremely ugly and completely dominating the view in such a way that I could never imagine playing the game with them.
I think the best option to preserve look and feel of the game, would be to make them more discrete, possible to select a few of them as favorites and putting those favorites directly below the game interface. For most days you would typically only need a few.
And if that would be complicated (which it probably is), then perhaps stacking them in a few rows at the bottom of the screen would at least be less intrusive. Especially if combined with a hide/show button.
I also encountered some kind of bug where the slaves in bottom right was offset by 1. For example I had to click on the button below (or mayby it was above?) May-Lynn to actually select May-Lynn. I suspect that it was Ayden in slot 1 that didn't register correctly and messed it up, but I didn't investigate it further.
I'm also curious to know how much changes you had to do in start_game.html? I would most likely want to experiment with it on the Tier 2 version.
Well yeah I can try make it more usable and more fitting style of the game, but I'm not that good with HTML and it will be very boring for me.
Considering the bug you described, if i understood you correctly, it's probably not a bug - the NPC buttons are showing not the actual slots in the NPC menu, but the order in which NPCs are placed there. So for example if you have only one NPC on a page in any slot he/she should be usable from button '1'.
Copy code bellow at the end of the start_game.html right before '</body>'
HTML:
<div class="button-container" style="display: flex; flex-direction: column; position: absolute; top: 20px; right: 10px;">
<button id="Day">Day</button>
<button id="Morning BJ">Morning BJ</button>
<button id="Work academy">Work academy</button>
<button id="Play cards">Play cards</button>
<button id="Craft 1 hour">Craft 1 hour</button>
<button id="Craft 5 hour">Craft 5 hour</button>
<button id="Train stamina">Train stamina</button>
<button id="Train strength">Train strength</button>
<button id="Train dexterity">Train dexterity</button>
<button id="Train ranged combat">Train ranged combat</button>
<button id="Train melee combat">Train melee combat</button>
<button id="Velvet train">Velvet train</button>
<button id="Battle melee">Battle melee</button>
<button id="Battle range">Battle range</button>
<button id="To basic training">To basic training</button>
<button id="To advanced training">To advanced training</button>
<button id="To craft">To craft</button>
<button id="Interact1">1</button>
<button id="Interact2">2</button>
<button id="Interact3">3</button>
<button id="Interact4">4</button>
<button id="Interact5">5</button>
<button id="Interact6">6</button>
<button id="Interact7">7</button>
<button id="Interact8">8</button>
</div>
<div class="button-container" style="display: flex; flex-direction: column; position: absolute; top: 20px; left: 10px;">
<button id="Talk">Talk</button>
<button id="Talk with everyone">Talk with everyone</button>
<button id="Arouse">Arouse</button>
<button id="To bondage">To bondage</button>
<button id="Bondage session">Bondage session</button>
<button id="Whip">Whip</button>
<button id="Fuck">Fuck</button>
<button id="Caress">Caress</button>
<button id="Kissing train">Kissing train</button>
<button id="Pussy train">Pussy train</button>
<button id="Anal train">Anal train</button>
<button id="Oral train">Oral train</button>
<button id="Education academics">Education academics</button>
<button id="Education medicine">Education medicine</button>
<button id="Education science">Education science</button>
<button id="Education domestic">Education domestic</button>
<button id="Education acrobatics">Education acrobatics</button>
<button id="Education dancing">Education dancing</button>
</div>
<script src="script.js"></script>
<script src="buttons.js"></script>
Gunner Rey
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I've found myself happier with characters for whom I skipped the Expert level as 120 points on the traits and attributes pages is a lot. There's no expert perk as useful long term (and even short term in many cases) as having those points to spend on 'Deadly Strike' and then maxing Charm and Manipulate and be a lady-killer from the get-go.
I find the window of advantage a little longer as with Einer, Doyle and two other cheapos you can quickly take down all the easy-to moderate targets and get to the higher end ones faster which gets me a workshop more quickly. All without much in expenses.
I've not tried it yet, but while I still end up in a tendstim-expense crunch at some point in the game, I know as soon as I've everyone in Duraplate wielding coilguns or Greatswords and starting in the first row I won't be needing much healing anymore.
It's also about the only place (outside Doctor above) where you can pick up much Sci skill. That can be especially useful if you plan on much early hacking or crafting the fun stuff.
Another place to pick up starting Sci if you want it. A Master Businessman with level two Scholar gives you the highest starting sci you can achieve.
Having a guaranteed Workaholic/Perfectionist with Submissive and perhaps two more traits allows you an opportunity to make a damn fine Slave Mistress in short order.
I agree, the bonus here is too far away and takes too long per session. It should be easier to access and work and/or come with a chance to capture slavegirls and such.
Yeah for me it depends on whether I'm doing an enhanced start or a rise from the ashes start. With a rise start I find that I get a better overall character going with no skill classes at all even though it means I can't have Deadly Strike. I can get almost all of the other good ones that way.
If I'm doing an enhanced start I don't have to make that sacrifice since I can use Adonis to pick up Deadly Strike without needing any levels in soldier. So I can get all of the traits I want no matter which skill class I choose. Having high starting charm and manipulate is definitely nice but I find those relatively easy to boost so I'd be more likely to pump copulation and kissing instead.
Well most of the other expert options that I would consider start with enough influence that I can just grab Ayden literally on day 1 and he's so strong in the early game that the free combat suits and early access to Einar are not that big of a deal to me. Still nice, but I can buy duraplate pretty quickly with Ayden anyway at which point the combat armor is just for respect training on people who are not my A team.
I tend to burn through stims pretty fast early on so the free heals are nice for me. Once you get a workshop up and running you can make stims and doctors kits for a lot less so the advantage of the free heals diminishes somewhat then. It also partly depends on who the advanced tactics AI decides is going to tank. I haven't figured out how that works yet in the current version. Sometimes I'm always the tank. Sometimes one of my mercs is, and I haven't really found a pattern that explains why yet compared to previous versions.
Yeah if I'm looking to dive into the academy classes and books immediately then getting the right skill classes to boost my starting academics and science skill to more than 50 each is nice. Without that I usually end up waiting til I have unlocked the palace so I can boost them via drinking at the palace bar. It's expensive but fairly high probability.
Intelligence is really the only stat I find unreasonably grindy to raise so I always start with 90 in that unless it's a rise start, and even then I'd be tempted to skip a trait or two that I normally like so I can start with 90 there.
Manipulate actually isn't that hard to raise if you know the trick to it. Explain Chores and Explain Sex Duties is the key. The problem is there's kind of a limited window of opportunity for those to work right. Your chance of success is better if their willpower is low, but not too low or it's guaranteed not to work. Affection also can't be too high or it doesn't work. So relatively early on I tend to repeatedly explain chores and sex duties to anyone with willpower in about the 30-50 range with amiable or worse affection and then fix the inevitably pissed off attitudes with pool parties, but not so many that they start to love me until I hit 90 manipulate. Then I can boost it further with classes and books.
I follow similar logic with charm and boost it via caress to something ending in a 4 or a 9 and then buy it up to 89 at the doctor's office before taking any classes or reading any books that boost charm.
I find bondage and flagellation more useful to raise at character creation if I'm going to boost sex related stuff since it's very tough to raise either of those without spending a LOT of time and money at the Velvet room (where you can boost both to 70 if you're persistent). Taking slaver skill classes is really the only way to do that so alternatively I will boost copulation and/or kissing instead.
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Clemency
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One of the player portraits for the legacy character creation if you do the enhanced start.
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Enhanced start explains also the small silhouette of a helicopter (seen 'behind' the characters right ear) as well...
Black smoke from chimney? Nah... What I have once seen must be real. No use to gaslight me there. Heh.