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Is this an older save? From before 0.8.3 patched to the newest versions? If it is, there's for example two Lovisa entries. The first entry is her outdated entry. The second is her current entry.

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Nope these are all brand new game starts and saves.
 

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Yup I'm a Patron for $1 can edit all I want, the non Patrons if I recall get like 3-5 edits for free. And this is the game I edit the most because can't get the sugarcube codes to work, found the codes for 1 at a time but editing the file much faster and easier. The codes I'm mentioning are for the slaves.
Yep I'm a longtime Patreon supporter of saveeditonline too, as you said it's only $1 and based on the value I get, so worth it!

I suspect that's actually what is messing me up, I'm trying to make too many edits at once in saveedit. I was trying to figure out if any specific stats I'm editing cause that blank NPC screen. I can put it up in the Discord for a bug issue, just curious if you happened to know. Happy Holi-daze :)
 
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Yep I'm a longtime Patreon supporter of saveeditonline too, as you said it's only $1 and based on the value I get, so worth it!

I suspect that's actually what is messing me up, I'm trying to make too many edits at once in saveedit. I was trying to figure out if any specific stats I'm editing cause that blank NPC screen. I can put it up in the Discord for a bug issue, just curious if you happened to know. Happy Holi-daze :)
I just started to get the blank npc screen when I used sandmans mod, cause the other one is just video. What i'm getting is npc just staying there in bed with no more pics than just that one when you going bang the girl using gentle, my guess they like it rough :cool:
 

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It will not work. Armand's accountant boost is not a trait. It's a "if accountant is Armand, boost accountant income".

Is this an older save? From before 0.8.3 patched to the newest versions? If it is, there's for example two Lovisa entries. The first entry is her outdated entry. The second is her current entry.

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I edit my npc's just once I used the banker and it's on this run but I usually put anyone I edit, never used that guy till today and still edit him to add more points to his skills and stats incase I need him to Strech his legs and kill something.
 

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Is there some way in this game to make all women masochistic, or in some way enjoy being raped and/or used roughly? Mods or cheats are fine, and I mean without training them first. For me needing to train that kind of defeats the purpose.

Thanks!
 
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What it´s the point now of the so called "High End" mercenaries?

Long time ago, when your house had only 8 slots, the money were really thigh and the combat was range-centric they made sense. they were expensive, but they have the Ammo Pck, and that was important, they have 150 hits when Bud and the peasant have 75 and they put something extra over the table.

but now? Not counting Clea and Ayden, they don´t bring anything new that make reason for the expense. i have hired Sunderland, to see his quest and after a few combats, I send him to the bench. He is not a good Captain (Cassius it´s far better), and, as a combatant it´s mediocre at best. He have less hit that Trulls and have problems capturing a squireel clad in heavy leather. He is a range combatant the it´s not even Crackshot! After a few combats, I have send him to the bench and replaced in my A Tem with Trulls, with a lot better resuls...
 

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What it´s the point now of the so called "High End" mercenaries?
Not much, to be honest, unless you really hate crafting minigun 7.62mm ammo. They could all use a Crackshot trait or a plasma rifle buff. Their best use case is probably capturing tier 7 bounty HULKs. Plasma rifle to lower hp and armor soak then whipping cane to capture since you cannot swap their melee weapon in combat. A greatsword/greataxe + whipping cane dual weapon NPC is not possible. But said NPC can use plasma and then have a whipping cane. Your A team with minigun and whipping cane would still beat that though but you need to complete the longest questline in the game for said minigun.

Right now, post-Rebellion Milou is probably the best of the high end mercs thanks to a combination of Crackshot and minigun. After facing the Dengi horde, I may have severely overestimated Clea Vallas' combat prowess; or, rather, tunnel visioned into one specific enemy. I previously ranked her over Milou. Now I am not too sure. The best part about Vallas is her unique melee weapon since it is basically a power katana with the incapacitation chance of a combat staff. Plus it makes use of her Liberated's assassination passive.

The good news though is that guys like Ayden and Samuel have story hooks and future content. Connor for example opened up two new scripted NPCs and gained a new trait. We might be able to do the same for the others. New unique trait plus a gun upgrade might revitalize Ayden if it happens.
 
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Guys DO NOT START new game with dingis, activate it when you in your home, tried it and fck'ed up my best saves now have to start over, the dingi menu doesn't appear when you start with the invasion at creating new game and when you load another save it disappears from menu. Going out to get some colds ones to cool off.
 

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Not much, to be honest, unless you really hate crafting minigun 7.62mm ammo. They could all use a Crackshot trait or a plasma rifle buff. Their best use case is probably capturing tier 7 bounty HULKs. Plasma rifle to lower hp and armor soak then whipping cane to capture since you cannot swap their melee weapon in combat. A greatsword/greataxe + whipping cane dual weapon NPC is not possible. But said NPC can use plasma and then have a whipping cane. Your A team with minigun and whipping cane would still beat that though but you need to complete the longest questline in the game for said minigun.

Right now, post-Rebellion Milou is probably the best of the high end mercs thanks to a combination of Crackshot and minigun. After facing the Dengi horde, I may have severely overestimated Clea Vallas' combat prowess; or, rather, tunnel visioned into one specific enemy. I previously ranked her over Milou. Now I am not too sure. The best part about Vallas is her unique melee weapon since it is basically a power katana with the incapacitation chance of a combat staff. Plus it makes use of her Liberated's assassination passive.

The good news though is that guys like Ayden and Samuel have story hooks and future content. Connor for example opened up two new scripted NPCs and gained a new trait. We might be able to do the same for the others. New unique trait plus a gun upgrade might revitalize Ayden if it happens.
For me there's kind of a progression for the mercs, and the top tiers have their place in it but most of them are not the best from an end game perspective. Ayden makes a great captain since he starts with good stats and high fame. So he's a strong companion for the first couple of weeks and then I bench him in favor of someone who can use a plasma like Connor or Felix.

Bud is actually stronger than most of the top tiers initially if you're playing Dying World since his ammo pack works at low prosperity and money is a big deal early on. So I actually use him until I'm ready to go pick up Milou. Clea is kind of an upgraded, female version of Ayden in terms of combat strength. I would say she's one of the strongest companions until after you do the rebellion, at which point I would rather have someone who can use a mini gun. Also since Clea's melee weapon is not 100% on captures I pretty much never use her melee attack. She frequently kills people I would rather capture if I do. I believe Clea's ammo pack also works at low prosperity like Bud.

To me Ammo Pack is mostly useful in the early to mid game to save money on plasma ammo, but it has no effect on combat strength. So I would value Crackshot much higher than Ammo Pack. Milou has both so she's very strong for the entire game and really only suffers from low health and not much capacity for captures.

So for endgame fights, I think Milou and Cassius are both no brainers. For the other two it kind of depends on whether you're focusing more on melee and don't care about captures or if you're focusing on mini gun + whip so you can do good damage and still get guaranteed captures. If you're playing with the sandman mod you might also swap out Cassius for a girlboss so you can get the combat animations but those get repetitive after awhile.
 

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Guys DO NOT START new game with dingis, activate it when you in your home, tried it and fck'ed up my best saves now have to start over, the dingi menu doesn't appear when you start with the invasion at creating new game and when you load another save it disappears from menu. Going out to get some colds ones to cool off.
It was bugged in one of the recent versions to start earlier than it's supposed to. Should be fixed now so that by default it doesn't trigger for at least 500 days. That does mean you might want to make sure you're prepared for it by about the year and a half mark though unless you tweak the timer for it when you start your game. Personally, I would want to have completed Aria's rebellion first so I have mini guns.
 
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It was bugged in one of the recent versions to start earlier than it's supposed to. Should be fixed now so that by default it doesn't trigger for at least 500 days. That does mean you might want to make sure you're prepared for it by about the year and a half mark though unless you tweak the timer for it when you start your game. Personally, I would want to have completed Aria's rebellion first so I have mini guns.
don't need aria and if I want miniguns which I don't need (got cyber cannons) will just use my sugarcube codes. Already got the new version but didn't help, deleted all the saves and started over but thx .
 

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It was bugged in one of the recent versions to start earlier than it's supposed to. Should be fixed now so that by default it doesn't trigger for at least 500 days. That does mean you might want to make sure you're prepared for it by about the year and a half mark though unless you tweak the timer for it when you start your game. Personally, I would want to have completed Aria's rebellion first so I have mini guns.
you said it was fixed, ok where is the icon. I'm using latest version, had to get save from trash bin, where is dingi icon?
 

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you said it was fixed, ok where is the icon. I'm using latest version, had to get save from trash bin, where is dingi icon?
I meant the timer for it was fixed so it doesn't start early. You can't change it after you start the game. Not sure whether that's planned to be changed or not. For me the Dengi events kicked off in the first month or two but since the new version came out there's been no further events past the first one. I'm closing in on the end of my first year now so I'm expecting they'll probably start up again around day 500.
 
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I meant the timer for it was fixed so it doesn't start early. You can't change it after you start the game. Not sure whether that's planned to be changed or not. For me the Dengi events kicked off in the first month or two but since the new version came out there's been no further events past the first one. I'm closing in on the end of my first year now so I'm expecting they'll probably start up again around day 500.
How do you close the new debug menu? checked all the pages and the onlything I saw was the permanent disable. NVM it's already reported in discord
 
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you said it was fixed, ok where is the icon. I'm using latest version, had to get save from trash bin, where is dingi icon?
The moment the very first dengi conclude day event happens, the Dengi option in the settings will disappear. It's a "there's no longer any turning back" kind of mechanic (unless you use console commands).

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is there plausible way to add extra points for character creation?
SugarCube.State.active.variables.crepoints = 500
 
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you said it was fixed, ok where is the icon. I'm using latest version, had to get save from trash bin, where is dingi icon?
there is a new version on discord so u can exit out of DEBUG menu , just released, and if u wannt turn off dengi invasion , Just set '$dengi_days = undefined' or remove the dengi_days line in saveeditor if you want to remove it , Or just use the +25 button and move it up to date that better suits you.
 
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What it´s the point now of the so called "High End" mercenaries?

Long time ago, when your house had only 8 slots, the money were really thigh and the combat was range-centric they made sense. they were expensive, but they have the Ammo Pck, and that was important, they have 150 hits when Bud and the peasant have 75 and they put something extra over the table.

but now? Not counting Clea and Ayden, they don´t bring anything new that make reason for the expense. i have hired Sunderland, to see his quest and after a few combats, I send him to the bench. He is not a good Captain (Cassius it´s far better), and, as a combatant it´s mediocre at best. He have less hit that Trulls and have problems capturing a squireel clad in heavy leather. He is a range combatant the it´s not even Crackshot! After a few combats, I have send him to the bench and replaced in my A Tem with Trulls, with a lot better resuls...
The point at least for me is that they're dope. I actually Love Connor and consider him my bro and even give him his own room with his wife (daughter stays with me, sorry bro) and Ayden is a big nerd who likes DnD so thats fun. But other than their lore and personalities, yeah the top tiers could use some love. I believe Ayden is getting something eventually but idk about the others.
 
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