Ennoch

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Yeah you can check out the save. I find nothing for her.
Like i said. You took a flight without her being the captain. I used your save, waited 2 day, she appeared as captain. Interaction triggered.
 

WilliamV

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Is the tavern worth building ? I buy external slot to build more workshop but is the tavern more profitable ?
 

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Is the tavern worth building ? I buy external slot to build more workshop but is the tavern more profitable ?
Somebody who has done the math on this probably can give you a better answer, but I feel like a properly managed tavern brings in better money than a workshop on the sweatshop setting (certainly if you don't have enough merchandise).

But if you're buying mats and turning them into rifles/assault rifles and taking them to the merchant in Hamah Bay (or was it the other one?), you probably make the most money.

So it basically becomes a question of how much micro-management you want to do.
 
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khumak

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Is the tavern worth building ? I buy external slot to build more workshop but is the tavern more profitable ?
It's a great early game investment. Costs a total of about $75k to build including the price of the lot itself, ramps up to max output for free pretty quickly if you personally carouse there 3x a day, and provides around $1400-1700 a day in income. The upgrades to the tavern have no effect on the income it produces as far as I can tell. So you can do them if you want, but there's no need to. The stats of the people you put in the tavern to work there are entirely irrelevant to it's income as well.

A workshop produces WAY more long term but requires more than $300k investment to max it out and also requires both high discipline workers and a high int foreman to get best results from it. So it's not going to pay for itself for awhile.

A tavern also unlocks the option to train some of your girls up to be prostitutes and assign them to the tavern as goldwalkers which gives you the option for an unlimited number of prostitutes increasing the income from your tavern instead of being maids or some other fairly useless task. Workshop maxes out at 7 workers plus a foreman.
 

TheSate

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Folks, is there a weapon or armor mod for this game? I just want to start my rootin-tootin Clint Eastwood build with Colt Peacemaker, but i lack at least a hat and a poncho
 

Verberator

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Taverns also get a lot better if you have a high gambling skill. They still don't compete with a good workshop, but it's a meaningful boost.
 

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From the wiki: "Certain deranged captives, if set loose rather than being killed, cured or incarcerated, might lower Control, especially if equipped with Stealth Armor before release."

What deranged captives? The ones with malevolent trait or what?
 

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From the wiki: "Certain deranged captives, if set loose rather than being killed, cured or incarcerated, might lower Control, especially if equipped with Stealth Armor before release."

What deranged captives? The ones with malevolent trait or what?
I have to assume that's a new thing and refers to the Dengi?
 

Zarkhy

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You can capture Dengi? I have tried that and so far had zero success.
I haven't actually tried that one myself,

But from the description I'd have to guess it's referring either to Dengi or Prowlers.
 

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I haven't actually tried that one myself,

But from the description I'd have to guess it's referring either to Dengi or Prowlers.
Prowlers it might be then, I imagine

Edit: sorry if my comment went somehow tits up. Connection broke precisely as I tried to send. :)
 
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My save files! They fucking did it didnt they? My save files dont work anymore because the once I have are tier4 and the versions we are getting now are the public versions... They are just not compatible..!

I put way too many hours into this little game to start over so soon. I just cant. I put around 40+ hours in grinding and looting and whatnot, because it is a genuinely fun survival game.

I guess I will have to wait for the finished version in around 5-10 years...
 

Fade710

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My save files! They fucking did it didnt they? My save files dont work anymore because the once I have are tier4 and the versions we are getting now are the public versions... They are just not compatible..!

I put way too many hours into this little game to start over so soon. I just cant. I put around 40+ hours in grinding and looting and whatnot, because it is a genuinely fun survival game.

I guess I will have to wait for the finished version in around 5-10 years...
there is a post a couple pages back that was talking about a patch so you can keep saves from before that you didn't want to lose, "shrugs" I didn't pay to much attention as I don't mind starting over when I play its different and fun fun for me
 

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My save files! They fucking did it didnt they? My save files dont work anymore because the once I have are tier4 and the versions we are getting now are the public versions... They are just not compatible..!

I put way too many hours into this little game to start over so soon. I just cant. I put around 40+ hours in grinding and looting and whatnot, because it is a genuinely fun survival game.

I guess I will have to wait for the finished version in around 5-10 years...
I don't think there's any reason your saves from the tier 4 version won't work on the normal version. The only things tier 4 adds are the debug menu, more options in the character creator, and the ability to start the quest that gives you the tier 2 NPC.

When is the last time you played? If it's been a really long time then it might be a version incompatibility. I think back after version 0.8.3.2 or something they removed the code to convert saves from 0.8.2 versions, so you would need to find an early 0.8.3 version to upgrade your save before running on the latest
Edit: 's the changelog for the last version that had the save upgrading. See the note at the top of the page
 
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elfhumper

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From the wiki: "Certain deranged captives, if set loose rather than being killed, cured or incarcerated, might lower Control, especially if equipped with Stealth Armor before release."

What deranged captives? The ones with malevolent trait or what?
I have to assume that's a new thing and refers to the Dengi?
Denaar addicts and Prowlers IIRC.
 
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khumak

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Folks, is there a weapon or armor mod for this game? I just want to start my rootin-tootin Clint Eastwood build with Colt Peacemaker, but i lack at least a hat and a poncho
There's a Peacemaker upgrade coming in a future update but you may be waiting awhile. There's also a gunslinger starting trait but it's kind of wasted until the Peacemaker upgrade gets implemented. It's still fun to crit for like 120 with a 9mm pistol in the early game though.
 
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