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Dirion

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When you get a permenant strenght penalty due to losing a fight, is that just a reduction you can get back through training or is it a -2 on your strength cap?
 

Overlord070

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Any particular reason why the incest code keeps changing?
I get why you wouldn't add it in by default due to patreon, but I thought mods made by others won't get you banned. Would be downright retarded if that was the case.
 

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When you get a permenant strenght penalty due to losing a fight, is that just a reduction you can get back through training or is it a -2 on your strength cap?
No, you can train it back up again. Just a "temporary" loss.
 
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When you get a permenant strenght penalty due to losing a fight, is that just a reduction you can get back through training or is it a -2 on your strength cap?
Depends on where you are at the cap.

If you started the game by buying 180 STR from the character creation but did not pick Mountain Man trait, it means that once you lose STR, it is permanently lost until you go down to 129 STR. The training cap for non-Mountain Man MC should be 130 STR. Once you dropped low enough, you can train back to 130 STR, but not 180.

This stat drop gets ridiculous with Charm. You can only get up to 89 charm from repeatable activities. Add in books and it can get to 101 or something. But if you keep losing Charm stat, you will be stuck at 89.
Any particular reason why the incest code keeps changing?
I get why you wouldn't add it in by default due to patreon, but I thought mods made by others won't get you banned. Would be downright retarded if that was the case.
It's not really changing, per se. It is just that someone has to keep making a mod with every patch release because every patch release means a new clean start_game.html.
 

vanpett

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Is there no way to remove the vanilla trait via educators in the new version? Until now I was trying to get vanilla down for Cassius, Gregory, Valeria and Rosita by assigning them to Loren as a slave mistress. It worked, albeit slowly. But now I can't find any hint that it also works with educators. Does that mean that the only way to remove it from Valeria and Rosita is by giving them hundreds of orgasms, while there is no way at all to remove it from any male? To keep corruption above 60 for a vanilla (and possibly pure) character is nearly impossible.
 

zaqwsxcde1

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Anyone knows how many days to get 100% progress bar in secret garden quest. Because it's to damn slow with juno assigned!
 

DLP

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It seems that the Secret Garden quest never triggered for my save - I purchased the Paine book, but there's no option to talk to the owner about it, and I don't have the quest in my log. Am I missing something, or is just a cross-version issue - and if so, is there a specific variable I can enable to get the quest rolling again?
 

Zarkhy

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Is there no way to remove the vanilla trait via educators in the new version? Until now I was trying to get vanilla down for Cassius, Gregory, Valeria and Rosita by assigning them to Loren as a slave mistress. It worked, albeit slowly. But now I can't find any hint that it also works with educators. Does that mean that the only way to remove it from Valeria and Rosita is by giving them hundreds of orgasms, while there is no way at all to remove it from any male? To keep corruption above 60 for a vanilla (and possibly pure) character is nearly impossible.
That's a really good point.

Keeping up corruption on Vanilla and Pure NPCs while working to lower those traits was like my main use for Slave Mistresses, that and sex skill training, which is also now limited to just Oral unless you use a male trainer.

Touch of Adonis is still a guaranteed Vanilla trait drop on orgasm, at least.

Though keeping corruption above 60 is no issue, just 3 successful lectures a day. What it is isn't impossible, it's a pain in the butt. And not the fun kind.
 

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It seems that the Secret Garden quest never triggered for my save - I purchased the Paine book, but there's no option to talk to the owner about it, and I don't have the quest in my log. Am I missing something, or is just a cross-version issue - and if so, is there a specific variable I can enable to get the quest rolling again?
You also need to ask her about "slaves/workers" to get the "About Molly paine book" conversation option.
 

DLP

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You also need to ask her about "slaves/workers" to get the "About Molly paine book" conversation option.
For some reason I needed to sleep and the next day it showed up - I had already talked to her about the slaves/workers multiple times. It's all resolved though!
 
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Hmm. I just finished Lost Girls with no problem...
Wait, you talked to Professor Wolf, not Professor Hemme? I never tried that...
No, it's just that when you exit the convo the only option to talk to Hemme and then no options at all.
 
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Gunner Rey

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Is there no way to remove the vanilla trait via educators in the new version? Until now I was trying to get vanilla down for Cassius, Gregory, Valeria and Rosita by assigning them to Loren as a slave mistress. It worked, albeit slowly. But now I can't find any hint that it also works with educators. Does that mean that the only way to remove it from Valeria and Rosita is by giving them hundreds of orgasms, while there is no way at all to remove it from any male? To keep corruption above 60 for a vanilla (and possibly pure) character is nearly impossible.
It's not difficult to get ~8 points of Corruption per Dungeon session once you get Bondage to a reasonable rate, enough so that you succeed regularly with dildos. When you first start, take a bath to get Arousal up off the bottom and then dildo/caress to get Arousal to '9' and then skullfuck the little slut. At first with low Corruption/Oral skill she may choke sometimes, but keep at it by Caressing her back to 9 and then try again. Every success will give you two points of Corruption and then you can rinse and repeat until you blow down her throat.
 

vanpett

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Thanks for the hint but I already knew about the corruption by skullfucking trick. Maybe "nearly impossible" was exaggerated. But my main goal is to remove their vanilla trait so that they stay corrupt without me constantly having to pay them my attention and so they don't "decorrupt" my other household members by raising purity. There are lots of other girls in my household which I favor over Rosita and Valeria. To keep those two constantly above 60 corruption for months (75 % chance per day to lower vanilla by one point) just isn't worth the effort.

Besides it still wouldn't solve the problem with the male vanillas. I certainly wouldn't want to regularly skullfuck Cassius and Gregory even if the game engine would allow it...:sick:
 
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Clutchfrog

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So I am trying to complete the Secret Garden mission but having an issue trying to reviews clues in my library. Nothing is popping up in library to able to successfully move on in the is mission. Anyone have a clue (no pun intended) on how to proceed? I really would hate to start a new game. Will add that the save I used to continue in 8.4 was from 8.3.9. So I will end on this note then......HELPPPPPPP.
 
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