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bolondro2

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So looking at the educator stuff it tells me that Felix can train brawler but that it requires a physical school. What is that? It doesn't seem to be the dojo because I already have that built and maxed out. Is there a new option for a school that I'm missing somewhere?
It´s the second template

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bolondro2

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Again with the Dengi Invasion....

Clearly the losses of the Dengi are not working right. I have advanced in my game, taking carful notes of the daily losses. My starting point was


  • Base depletion (dengi warriors): -20-25/day.
  • IMS Ulthar is built: -15/day
  • City Power is 15,000+: -10/day
  • Aesir Power is 1,000+: -10/day.
  • Cyker Power is 900+: -5/day.
  • Defeating a dengi marauder enemy POI: -5/encounter.
So, I must espect 60-65 losses in the Dengi side, + the action of the MC and his strike group. Latter in the run, the Control of the city reached 90, that adds other +20

The results have been interesting, to say the least.

In 17 days, the losses of the Dengi have been in the range of 50-54 before reaching Control 90 and 70-74 after this, with an odd 49 (that can well be a mistake on my side taking note).

First conclusion. Defeating a Dengi Marauder Enemy POI makes nothing. In the 17 days run I have one day with zero combats, and one day with 12 combats. Result? 74 losses the day of 0 combats, 72 losses the day of 12 coabats. it never mind if the MC stay at home banging slaves or if he is in the field banging Dengis.

Second conclusion. Either the -10 of the City Power or the -10 of the Aesir Faction don´t work properly.

Can any of the Techies, code savants, of this threat have a look at the code to confirm or deny my notebook conclusions?
 

Zarkhy

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Oh so I just have to switch him to physical trainer instead of combat trainer?
No, you have to have them both turned on at the same time.

Educators can train multiple things at the same time. There's just a penalty for more than two templates.

If you look at the screenshot, Bolondro has 4 templates activated.
 
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No, you have to have them both turned on at the same time.

Educators can train multiple things at the same time. There's just a penalty for more than two templates.

If you look at the screenshot, Bolondro has 4 templates activated.
Oh I see now. Didn't notice you could have multiple templates on at the same time. Cool.
 

desmosome

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I'm actually starting this game finally. Is there any crack for tier 2 quest? Or we only got the public releases here?
 

Kunt

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Btw, and this might be a pretty silly question. Is there any way to check the logs and how people changed if you sleep at midnight or later? Cause at 12 the day passes, food, influence, money is affected etc, but I can only read the logs for the people living at home if I sleep before 12.
so noone knows? :(
 

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What this game desperately needs is a good summary screen combining NPC stats with job requirements and performance estimates for different people/jobs. I know that this is basically a Paradox Interactive-like datasexual H-game but come on, as soon as you start having a decent amount of NPCs in your househould and building up your investments, you end up having to spend like 90% of your playtime just clicking through screens and comparing numbers. As long as you care about managing your empire at least half-decently that is
 

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So playing the latest version I'm still getting used to the new Educator system. From what I can see looking at the bonuses, it looks like the ideal trainer would be old enough to get the age bonus (35ish?), Workaholic, Pure, Dominant, and Famous. Of those, most are trainable but I don't see a way to train Dominant. The only person I currently have with Dominant is Sofia and she doesn't have any of the other bonuses satisfied. Does one of the educator templates train Dominant and just doesn't mention it? Corruption is also a potential bonus if you want them to sex up their trainees.

I'm planning to start over and pay more attention to trying to get trainers with better bonuses set up. The ones I used in my current game are pretty ineffective, even if the additional training options are a very welcome change.
 

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So playing the latest version I'm still getting used to the new Educator system. From what I can see looking at the bonuses, it looks like the ideal trainer would be old enough to get the age bonus (35ish?), Workaholic, Pure, Dominant, and Famous. Of those, most are trainable but I don't see a way to train Dominant. The only person I currently have with Dominant is Sofia and she doesn't have any of the other bonuses satisfied. Does one of the educator templates train Dominant and just doesn't mention it? Corruption is also a potential bonus if you want them to sex up their trainees.
I don't think you'd want your trainer to be Pure. Basically mutually exclusive with having Corruption.

There isn't a way to train Dominant, but anyone who is Malevolent (the opposite of Pure) has a daily (5%?) chance to increase their Dominant trait by 1. The trait becomes active when you reach 51 Dominant.

There may have been some chance random slaves start with it, but I may be misremembering.
 
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I don't think you'd want your trainer to be Pure. Basically mutually exclusive with having Corruption.

There isn't a way to train Dominant, but anyone who is Malevolent (the opposite of Pure) has a daily (5%?) chance to increase their Dominant trait by 1. The trait becomes active when you reach 51 Dominant.

There may have been some chance random slaves start with it, but I may be misremembering.
Ah I was thinking pure gave a bonus, but looks like it doesn't unless you're specifically looking to train up pure. I'm specifically looking to max out these bonuses. Didn't realize being malevolent would passively train up Dominant. I guess I'll have to just ignore Dominant unless I want to play the long game and save up randoms who happen to have that trait to eventually train up in everything else. But by the time I managed that I probably don't really need trainers that much anymore.

So I guess for the early to mid game it makes more sense to train up a few people who are 35+ to get them workaholic and enough fame for the 20 pt bonus. Not sure what the threshold is for that but early game the only people I have who get that are Ayden and Felix. I usually make Ayden my captain but looks like it may be better to switch it up and make Felix my captain and put Ayden on Educator duty since he gets the age, workaholic, and fame bonus.

It looks like making Sofia my head maid might also get around her Attention Whore problem but I haven't tested that yet. I normally just mind wipe her to get rid of it, but if I don't have to I'd prefer that option. Grim mentioned something about Bud permanently losing Attention Whore if he's a member of your party when you do the Rebellion fights as well but I don't know if that's implemented and haven't tested it personally.

I guess Cassius could eventually become an ideal trainer since he's 35+, can learn workaholic, can start with malevolent (which could eventually get him dominant), and can get everything else. I can't think of anyone else who is already 35+ and can be malevolent or dominant. Can males even learn dominant? Don't think I've seen one so far.

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Actually looking through the wiki it looks like this is the only NPC that might start off with all the ideal traits for it. Don't think I've ever seen and/or kept him before. Will have to keep my eye out for him this game.

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Zarkhy

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Ah I was thinking pure gave a bonus, but looks like it doesn't unless you're specifically looking to train up pure. I'm specifically looking to max out these bonuses. Didn't realize being malevolent would passively train up Dominant. I guess I'll have to just ignore Dominant unless I want to play the long game and save up randoms who happen to have that trait to eventually train up in everything else. But by the time I managed that I probably don't really need trainers that much anymore.

So I guess for the early to mid game it makes more sense to train up a few people who are 35+ to get them workaholic and enough fame for the 20 pt bonus. Not sure what the threshold is for that but early game the only people I have who get that are Ayden and Felix. I usually make Ayden my captain but looks like it may be better to switch it up and make Felix my captain and put Ayden on Educator duty since he gets the age, workaholic, and fame bonus.

It looks like making Sofia my head maid might also get around her Attention Whore problem but I haven't tested that yet. I normally just mind wipe her to get rid of it, but if I don't have to I'd prefer that option. Grim mentioned something about Bud permanently losing Attention Whore if he's a member of your party when you do the Rebellion fights as well but I don't know if that's implemented and haven't tested it personally.

I guess Cassius could eventually become an ideal trainer since he's 35+, can learn workaholic, can start with malevolent (which could eventually get him dominant), and can get everything else. I can't think of anyone else who is already 35+ and can be malevolent or dominant. Can males even learn dominant? Don't think I've seen one so far.

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Actually looking through the wiki it looks like this is the only NPC that might start off with all the ideal traits for it. Don't think I've ever seen and/or kept him before. Will have to keep my eye out for him this game.

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I don't know the exact causes and effects since they're not explained as plainly as the old Slave Master system was in the wiki, but I think Workaholic and Dominant add additional stress gain and/or stamina loss, which can cause issues.

I've got Sofia with Workaholic, Dominant AND Malevolent, and the amount of stress she causes is wild, but luckily it seems to clear rather quickly so that no one usually gets the penalties for high stress.

If I was to build a "perfect" educator, I'd just take a 35+ old 100 int Workaholic with some fame bonus.

Realistically though, you're gonna need one person to train everyone elses int and discipline so you can train charm and whatever else. I'm currently training Tuner's int and discipline.
 

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I've got Sofia with Workaholic, Dominant AND Malevolent, and the amount of stress she causes is wild, but luckily it seems to clear rather quickly so that no one usually gets the penalties for high stress.
How did you get Sofia with Malevolent? Can she randomly get that? Have never seen that, although I haven't tried to save scum her extensively since I usually just mind wipe her anyway. Can someone who has Malevolent like Rebecca train it on someone else since it's just the opposite of Pure? Or is it only Pure you can actually train? Would be pretty nice to be able to actively train up Einar, Cassius, Kelly, etc to be malevolent as well as brawler/warrior if you wanted them to be on your A team.
 

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How did you get Sofia with Malevolent? Can she randomly get that? Have never seen that, although I haven't tried to save scum her extensively since I usually just mind wipe her anyway. Can someone who has Malevolent like Rebecca train it on someone else since it's just the opposite of Pure? Or is it only Pure you can actually train? Would be pretty nice to be able to actively train up Einar, Cassius, Kelly, etc to be malevolent as well as brawler/warrior if you wanted them to be on your A team.
Extensive save scumming.

No way to train Malevolent, AFAIK.
 
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