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Hire Lovisa, unlock her background. Bring her to meet Tori at the bathhouse, unlock Tori's background and that will give the Helm quest.
Thank you for the reply.

It probably needs a Wiki. I was going over the story book NPCs and it hasn't been added into the quests, despite the storybook updating via the WIKI. No links on Google when searching how. I should've read the topic, it had been answered.

I am unclear I had talked to Tori, she's undying as are all NPCs in my house are via Affinity. It failed to start. I'lll go back to it.

Question Stacey Mcclung? Public, available, or Subscribe content only?

The new Turner, unclear on his management now, he trains performance, no allowance necessary. If setting allowance, does he train dance to any others not assigned?

Started replaying for the new Aria stuff which is really good, looking at the above Storybook NPC WIKI, it advises to have Stacy in the group for certain parts?
 
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I am unclear I had talked to Tori, she's undying as are all NPCs in my house are via Affinity. It failed to start. I'lll go back to it.
It's Hopes&Dreams that starts it and you don't need the background at all. The backgrounds unlock their personal little quests instead.
 

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Cultist Monk and the Black Scorpion has been nerfed a while back. They can make 100 Discipline probably, but not the old limits they use to reach.

Talika is still a monster though, if the stars align, capping at a maximum roll possible of 190. For that, she needs to get two +30 boost at processing for a total of +60 discipline, needs the 27-45 roll for base stats to get to 45, needs her Red Tide discipline bonus to roll 60, and needs to have both Workaholic and Perfectionist from the get go. Multiple layers there, probably not worth to squeeze everything.

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If you do at least get her to the 130+ territory, Talika, as head maid, can train Valeria Helm. Valeria Helm is often the dominant partner in the relationship (unless you fucked up her willpower or her relationship trait), which means she will train Gregory up to her Discipline, and then he can be the Butler for the men.

You train them. You put them in the academy for INT. You get their Discipline up via various methods in the wiki. A good captain of the guards can train his guards relatively quickly to 80 Discipline. Otherwise, your best bet fresh off the capture are Dolcaar Vesren and Bart Masters, who both come at 80+ INT, 105 Discipline, and the Dominant trait which has its pluses (bonus as educator) and minuses if not managed (Household Demoralization ---> Fear increase).

You can put any into the workshop if they have workaholic and it increases their discipline. Blackscorpion has 100 base discipline, like the Voidseeker and he's my head butler, he's kinda useless otherwise unless foreman of something or at the academy. Dunno why you need more discipline than 100? Why you aren't using Adora as head maid if you started with her via slaver? Those stats cap to a point where additional does what?

The really annoying one is beauty to 95 for performers at the tavern, I think there are some addon increases like perfume? Didn't care much past 80
 

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SugarCube.State.variables.stormchild = undefined
SugarCube.State.variables.averytwin = undefined
(..because i'm simply amazing, i looked up the Dixon's girl code too)

The Avery twin never showed up in my current playthrough, I got Stormchild but I'd already finished the maid events in Dockgrave tavern and I was thinking that might lock you out of getting the sister If you hadn't already. I tried that code in the console and she still didn't show, is that where you're supposed to put it?
 

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The Avery twin never showed up in my current playthrough, I got Stormchild but I'd already finished the maid events in Dockgrave tavern and I was thinking that might lock you out of getting the sister If you hadn't already. I tried that code in the console and she still didn't show, is that where you're supposed to put it?
I fucked that up as well, she was there the first time I went to it, when I was trying to buy a virgin 18 year old for fullhouse. I didn't see her again. Stormchild is there from the beginning after a storm, much better from watery eyes, there from storm in its contents, except doesn't load as a first choice, like after a storm.

I am restarting, for her, and Valkyria who I sold. Still looking for info on Stacey whether she's exclusive or public?
 
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I fucked that up as well, she was there the first time I went to it, when I was trying to buy a virgin 18 year old for fullhouse. I didn't see her again. Stormchild is there from the beginning after a storm, much better from watery eyes, there from storm in its contents, except doesn't load as a first choice, like after a storm.

She never showed up at all in this playthrough for me. First time I went to Crystal Hills was during a storm and I got Stormchild, so then I figured I'd grab Dixon too so I went back into the auction but Dixon never showed and hasn't anytime since when I checked. That's why I figured completing her sisters events at Dockgrave might have locked her out.

Ah well it's about time for a new save anyway. I'm kind of addicted to the rise from the ashes, ironman, decaying world early game when everything is far more tense and dangerous. After you get that first workshop up and running cracking out 10-20k a day the game changes bigtime.
 
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She never showed up at all in this playthrough for me. First time I went to Crystal Hills was during a storm and I got Stormchild, so then I figured I'd grab Dixon too so I went back into the auction but Dixon never showed and hasn't anytime since when I checked. That's why I figured completing her sisters events at Dockgrave might have locked her out.

Ah well it's about time for a new save anyway. I'm kind of addicted to the rise from the ashes, ironman, decaying world early game when everything is far more tense and dangerous. After you get that first workshop up and running cracking out 10-20k a day the game changes bigtime.
I play on Dying World, only way to play, far more spawns, frequently. I'm playing with Dengi, and not ironman, ironman is far too problematic in the first months. Taking stim allergy, unlucky, sex addict, limp, gluttonous, haunted, unlucky, debt, body odor. So punishing without, subs, who have the game on easy mode. A choice of doctor or soldier adept, take slaver max. I take taskmaster. I have a few extra points I shove into more intellect on start. after usual must have brainy, disciplined, party animal, massive load, well hung, manhunter, z mark.
 
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I play on Dying World, only way to play, far more spawns, frequently. I'm playing with Dengi, and not ironman, ironman is far too problematic in the first months. Taking stim allergy, unlucky, sex addict, limp, gluttonous, haunted, unlucky, debt, body odor. So punishing without, subs, who have the game on easy mode. A choice of doctor or soldier adept, take slaver max. I take educator. I have a few extra points I shove into more intellect on start. after usual must have brainy, disciplined, party animal, massive load, well hung, manhunter, z mark.

I haven't even done Dengi yet because I keep restarting lol

I've never took any of the weaknesses before but this current playthrough It was rise from the ashes with the other two and for the build I tried something different than my other saves and didn't take any expert classes I just took all traits

Brainy, Discipled, Educator, Well Hung, Massive Load, Party Animal and Taskmaster

I couldn't hit a barn door in combat and put all my beauty points in intelligence to get the Brainy trait so beauty was at zero lol a true ugly bastard. So I just got in Felix, Samuel and Connor in the first week and they carried me. It was honestly still to easy. I might need to try some of the weaknesses.

As far as ironman goes it's really not that difficult, you just have to keep things simple until you get duraplate armor and coil guns
 
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The dixon girl appears in the Watery Eyes market only. Stormhild only at Crystall Heights.
No. Stormchild appears at Watery Eyes, and she is always at Watery Eyes after a storm, and she will always be a slave on the market. Immediately after a storm she will be the first choice of girl, after a storm and not purchasing her the following day, she'll always be a available after running through the slave choices.

Thanks for the clarity on the Dixon girl.
 

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No. Stormchild appears at Watery Eyes, and she is always at Watery Eyes after a storm, and she will always be a slave on the market. Immediately after a storm she will be the first choice of girl, after a storm and not purchasing her the following day, she'll always be a available after running through the slave choices.

Thanks for the clarity on the Dixon girl.

I just got stormchild at crystal hills so she might appear at both
 

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I haven't even done Dengi yet because I keep restarting lol

I've never took any of the weaknesses before but this current playthrough It was rise from the ashes with the other two and for the build I tried something different than my other saves and didn't take any expert classes I just took all traits

Brainy, Discipled, Educator, Well Hung, Massive Load, Party Animal and Taskmaster

I couldn't hit a barn door in combat and put all my beauty points in intelligence to get the Brainy trait so beauty was at zero lol a true ugly bastard. So I just got in Felix, Samuel and Connor in the first week and they carried me. It was honestly still to easy. I might need to try some of the weaknesses.

As far as ironman goes it's really not that difficult, you just have to keep things simple until you get duraplate armor and coil guns
Need 60 for Evelyn, doctors clinic plastic surgery, she ate my stims, somehow she got mind broken she had really dumb traits, didn't load, then she was a terrible scav. Mindbroken = whore. I tried raising them back up with shrine willpower, she had really dumb traits. I took catholic and the stam was a good daily increase over aesir damage. nothing I couldn't kill but missed some stuff.

I normally run with soldier adept, doctor novice, slaver expert. All those negatives. The only one that's a bitch to build is sneak. Why hunter is optional to soldier, but ugh hitting stuff, especially with the negatives. Get dojo up quick and train train train.
 

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The dixon girl appears in the Watery Eyes market only. Stormhild only at Crystall Heights.
AFAIK they can both appear at both auction halls, Dixon girl is just very very low chance to appear, and if you pass her once by accident (because her stats aren't that great), she's gone for good.
 

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Can Stacey Mcclung be recruited on the Public Version?
No. Stacey is from a Tier 2 unlocked quest.
The new Turner, unclear on his management now, he trains performance, no allowance necessary. If setting allowance, does he train dance to any others not assigned?
Which mode of Tuner? He works the same as he always had, no job + salary. Only that now he has an alternative path, where he can be Educator. As Educator, he should not be training the whole household's stats unless its bugged. He only trains his trainees. The one for the whole household of girls remains his unemployed + salary mode.
Why you aren't using Adora as head maid if you started with her via slaver?
Because a Head Maid trains people to her discipline. A 100 Discipline Adora can only get maids to 100. A 145 Eve can get her maids to 145. Etc.
Dunno why you need more discipline than 100? [...] Those stats cap to a point where additional does what?
Vanity. For fun. Anything you can name. I like to also set my own goals and my goals are to have a perfected household.

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The dixon girl appears in the Watery Eyes market only. Stormhild only at Crystall Heights.
Both.
No. Stormchild appears at Watery Eyes, and she is always at Watery Eyes after a storm, and she will always be a slave on the market. Immediately after a storm she will be the first choice of girl, after a storm and not purchasing her the following day, she'll always be a available after running through the slave choices.

Thanks for the clarity on the Dixon girl.
They appear at both auctions.
 

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No.

Which mode of Tuner? He works the same as he always had, no job + salary. Only that now he has an alternative path, where he can be Educator. As Educator, he should not be training the whole household's stats unless its bugged. He only trains his trainees. The one for the whole household of girls remains his unemployed + salary mode.

Because a Head Maid trains people to her discipline. A 100 Discipline Adora can only get maids to 100. A 145 Eve can get her maids to 145. Etc.

Vanity. For fun. Anything you can name. I like to also set my own goals and my goals are to have a perfected household.

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Both.

They appear at both auctions.
Thanks for the clarity on Stacey. That's unfair no Stacey.

No. Turner Jackson works differently now. Completely different. Allowance to 1000 is a bitch setting at 5 bucks a time, and pointless. He trains specific performance on any assigned to him as an educator. Otherwise random increase is dumber than your education especially with taken educator. Performance was always difficult raising. Now easy, and he doesn't eat your money.

Why do I need more discipline on maids? 100 is kinda capped with no real increases to points after, in fact it is a lot less daily influence gain. You can shove workaholics into a factory to increase it to 100 as well.

The annoying one is beauty as plastic surgery caps at 85, performers at a tavern boost it at 95.
 

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No. Turner Jackson works differently now. Completely different. Allowance to 1000 is a bitch setting at 5 bucks a time, and pointless. He trains specific performance on any assigned to him as an educator. Otherwise random increase is dumber than your education especially with taken educator. Performance was always difficult raising. Now easy, and he doesn't eat your money.
As I said, two modes for Tuner. I personally do not need Tuner as an Educator. I have much better educators able to train what Tuner can train and also raise Charisma to 100. And my save hails from before the Academy stat gains were capped so my Tuner has ~300 Performance, and he can slowly train every one of my girl to 300 Performance. Does it do anything? No. As I said, I do things just to do things.

Why do I need more discipline on maids? 100 is kinda capped with no real increases to points after, in fact it is a lot less daily influence gain. You can shove workaholics into a factory to increase it to 100 as well.

The annoying one is beauty as plastic surgery caps at 85, performers at a tavern boost it at 95.
Again. So I can say I have a legal 190 Discipline 180 Beauty girl. For fun. There is no deeper meaning to it. There does not have to be an immediate measurable benefit.
I am also getting Kyle Scantell, the simpleton rifle savant, to 100 INT via Educator. I do not think he needs any INT beyond 60 for Scavenger (I think, been a while since I checked the Scavenger code).
 
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  • Does your team have health implant level 2 (NPC Menu ----> Actions ---> Crystal Heights clinic)?
  • What's their Melee Combat/Ranged Combat stat, 150?
  • Do you have your ?
  • Does your team have high Medicine stat to use Combat Tendstims you buy from the Mastersphere which can be used to heal during combat? More medicine stat, more uses.
  • Who are your combatants? Depending on your combatants, powerstriking with greataxe might be genuinely stronger. Plasma can reduce the soak of the APC, if you want.
The strongest weapons you can get before that fight are typically the Cybercannon (limited ammo, ignores Ammo Pack, but enough ammo supply to do the hardest fights), Voice of Adem incantation (costs willpower to cast, requires Prowler in the Depths 3), or the Greataxe/Greatsword with the melee powerhouses.

Two Cybercannons are available. One from direct purchase in the Mastersphere, one from deciphering a twin-cipher taken from Rosita's The Goonies quest (attack the Goonies) and the level 2 rumors mission from Divine Juices in Watery Eyes (auto deciphered in the library with appropriate stat, I forgot if INT or Aca/Sci).
Man, first of all, thank you very much for the detailed response! This is really helpful! To answer your questions:
  • Does your team have health implant level 2 (NPC Menu ----> Actions ---> Crystal Heights clinic)? - No, I didn't have this, didn't know it was possible, I will get that for everyone!
  • What's their Melee Combat/Ranged Combat stat, 150? - Yeah, all 150
  • Do you have your ? - No, I will look into these
  • Does your team have high Medicine stat to use Combat Tendstims you buy from the Mastersphere which can be used to heal during combat? More medicine stat, more uses. - Not really high, no, I have 40 of those combat tendstims but can only use one per round, the issue is the APC is one-shotting me so didn't even get a chance to use them, will look into getting more medicine for all and increasing health with the implants you recommended
  • Who are your combatants? Depending on your combatants, powerstriking with greataxe might be genuinely stronger. Plasma can reduce the soak of the APC, if you want. - I have everyone equipped with greataxes/greatswords, usually do 100 to 114 damage with powerstrike

I will look into obtaining those cybecannons. I have done the prowler in the depths but didn't get that incantation? did I miss something there as well? and I didn't come accross the goonies quest, will also look into it! damn, a list of homework I just got!

Thanks again for the detailed answer!
 

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As I said, two modes for Tuner. I personally do not need Tuner as an Educator. I have much better educators able to train what Tuner can train and also raise Charisma to 100. And my save hails from before the Academy stat gains were capped so my Tuner has ~300 Performance, and he can slowly train every one of my girl to 300 Performance. Does it do anything? No. As I said, I do things just to do things.


Again. So I can say I have a legal 190 Discipline 180 Beauty girl. For fun. There is no deeper meaning to it. There does not have to be an immediate measurable benefit.
I am also getting Kyle Scantell, the simpleton rifle savant, to 100 INT via Educator. I do not think he needs any INT beyond 60 for Scavenger (I think, been a while since I checked the Scavenger code).
Educator is targeted to specific girls. Instead of everybody gaining dancing stats and smaller performance from 1000 daily. In previous game versions this was annoying as specific tavern roles changed into everybody being dancers, because turner raised their stats and yours, everybody randomly. The tavern now has very specific and detailed criteria. Now he trains performance by educator. When I was doing it for the full house quest, performance is very difficult raising by education, and the other performance and beauty needed are performers in the tavern. He raises, a performance point every consecutive day. Dancing is easily trained yourself up to 120 with using discipline education, if you have good dex and etc, with in education and taskmaster. Dancing caps in tavern at 80 or something, but there's bonus beauty 95, hard dunno how past 85 unless buffs from perfume, and performance boost. Turner raises performance by educator.

Doing stuff because nothing to do except stuff that doesn't do anything seems futile. I spent 20-28 hours, before restarting now on the latest version. I missed a few things. I could end now and see Aria, much better now, than the other choice, upto content available.

Educators if they raise stamina, intellect, and dexterity, could be really useful in the project erebos, hunt lab quests. Didn't do those as their criteria is difficult and time consuming
 
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