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Anyone got a build guide or a compilation of builds or something? I'm very curious how to optimally build, on my new save I did something like this for a melee character, but I picked mostly manipulation/charm/beauty as my stats instead of combat ones since combat stats are pretty easy to train, and Intelligence/"Charisma" skills are annoying and rather limited to train, got Disciplined and Mountain Man for late game stat training, don't care for Stealth/Survival/Gambling/Medicine since I barely engage with the mechanics/events of those
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[...] but I picked mostly manipulation/charm/beauty as my stats instead of combat ones since combat stats are pretty easy to train, and Intelligence/"Charisma" skills are annoying and rather limited to train
And that would be the smart thing to do, Charisma is the singular most potent characteristic in the entire game, and I would welcome anyone to debate me on that point.

you could create a literal bum of a character, as long as you put all your point in charisma, you're pretty sure to never fail any interaction with a slave, and all the bonus stats that trickle down from successful interactions.

It really come down to -what I believe is- a flawed design of the main character from Grim, to make him "a charismatic warlord", that's how "he" personally want to view the character and how it interact with the world and kinda shoehorn a very specific play style around that very specific archetype.

but what about if I want to play an intellectual, a elderly school teacher or a socially awkward artisan, or a Faithfull family man ? well I also need a HULC armor and a cybercannon and all the cyber-implants, and all the master of war traits, funnelling me inevitably into ONE viable play style.

so me ranting aside, all that is to say: there's no real different build archetype, just how much you want to struggle early game.
 

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don't care for Stealth/Survival/Gambling/Medicine since I barely engage with the mechanics/events of those
I will say that I typically put a few points into Gambling in character creation, allowing me to (reasonably easily) pass the gambling rolls at Preacher's Hall to gain Adrienne without sharing Michelle.

Of course you could just train your Gambling skill, but that would require engaging with the mechanics/events related to Gambling, which I also don't particularly care for.
 

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I will say that I typically put a few points into Gambling in character creation, allowing me to (reasonably easily) pass the gambling rolls at Preacher's Hall to gain Adrienne without sharing Michelle.

Of course you could just train your Gambling skill, but that would require engaging with the mechanics/events related to Gambling, which I also don't particularly care for.
Just have a high power rating like 150+ or something (I forget the actual number) and simply threaten him into giving you her for free.
 

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Question. How am I suppose to get Aria's willpower down below 60? I can only do -3 per day with lectures, but once she's below 60, her Unbreakable trait kicks in which has been giving her +4 every day and then a +1 from Paragon.

- Explaining things to her is out because she's too corrupted.
- Frightening or Terrorizing is out too because high corruption.
- Butt-plugs do nothing.
- Bondage and degrading sex do nothing because she's too corrupted.
 

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Question. How am I suppose to get Aria's willpower down below 60? I can only do -3 per day with lectures, but once she's below 60, her Unbreakable trait kicks in which has been giving her +4 every day and then a +1 from Paragon.

- Explaining things to her is out because she's too corrupted.
- Frightening or Terrorizing is out too because high corruption.
- Butt-plugs do nothing.
- Bondage and degrading sex do nothing because she's too corrupted.
If she has the paragon trait, you already did something wrong...

now if you strictly want to lower her willpower specifically, you can just leave her in a jail cell and forget about her... alternatively, I remember the first time I broke Aria I left her hanging in bondage in the training room for days, feeding her only cum, and it worked out.

but mind that unless you're looking for a specific outcome (like you would if you were trying to sell her to Kymanto) that eventually her willpower will climb back up over time, there's no real fix until you re-enslave her.
 
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Canes

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If she has the paragon trait, you already did something wrong...

now if you strictly want to lower her willpower specifically, you can just leave her in a jail cell and forget about her... I remember the first time I broke Aria I left her hanging in bondage in the training room for days, feeding her only cum, and it worked out.
Jail does nothing because of the Unbreakable trait.
 

dollydollzy

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Jail does nothing because of the Unbreakable trait.
When you buy her and talk to her for the first time, if you tell her to shut up, she doesn't get the paragon trait.
The unbreakable trait slowly goes away when her willpower is low, I can't remember the exact number.
The trait only gives 2-4 (1-4 in description) per day 75 percent of the time. Now if you had 4 per night, every night, you just need better luck.
 
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When you buy her and talk to her for the first time, if you tell her to shut up, she doesn't get the paragon trait.
The unbreakable trait slowly goes away when her willpower is low, I can't remember the exact number.
The trait only gives 2-4 (1-4 in description) per day 75 percent of the time. Now if you had 4 per night, every night, you just need better luck.
Unbreakable has a chance to increase Willpower by 2 to 5 points, 85% of the time -- which is pretty much guaranteed.
The unbreakable trait can't go away, slowly or otherwise, because willpower needs to be below 25, which doesn't happen because math and not luck.
 
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Unbreakable has a chance to increase Willpower by 2 to 5 points, 85% of the time -- which is pretty much guaranteed.
The unbreakable trait can't go away, slowly or otherwise, because willpower needs to be below 25, which doesn't happen because math and not luck.
I'm just trying to help. I just looked it up, it is 2-4 80 percent of the time.

<<if _npc.traitun gte 75 and _lossroll100 lte 80 and _npc.willpower lte 59>>
<<set _npc.willpower+=random(2,4)>>
<</if>>

<<if _npc.traitun gte 75 and _npc.willpower lte 24>>
<<set _npc.traitun-=1>>
<</if>>

Nonetheless, let's focus solutions.
If you still can't lower her willpower, you can just reload to when you first purchased her and right before talking to her.
Otherwise, leaving her in upgraded bond. cell have a chance to lower her an extra willpower.
I'm out of ideas, maybe someone else can help.
Edit: Oh ya I just remembered, spanking works really well, especially if her corruption is high. Orgasming while being spanked is guaranteed -1 willpower, but spanking in general have a small chance. It requires a bit of stamina from both parties, but she has good stamina, so, try that maybe.
Edit2: You need high flagl. skill to do that I think. Just read some books in bond.
Edit3: Don't put her in bond. room, just ask her directly for spanking and if you your success is 80 or higher, you are good to go. If it is lower, just need more practice+books+courses. If you fail spanking, there is a chance she gets willpower. I would say stick to the 80+ rule.
 
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Canes

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Well if you don't have the patience, there's always the drugs, Neuraclean, Haze pills, mindmancer, raikan gale...
- Neuraclean can't be used on Aria, and even if it could it doesn't remove the Unbreakable trait.
- Haze pills I'll need 15000 influence just to decrease by an amount that will make a difference (-20).
- Mindmancer increases corruption only.
- Raikan Gale needs $60.000 just to decrease willpower to any noticeable impact (unbreakable kicks in), that is if it even works 50/50.

Yeah, I don't know, the math doesn't add up with this one (Willpower loss + Unbreakable).
 

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- Neuraclean can't be used on Aria, and even if it could it doesn't remove the Unbreakable trait.
- Haze pills I'll need 15000 influence just to decrease by an amount that will make a difference (-20).
- Mindmancer increases corruption only.
- Raikan Gale needs $60.000 just to decrease willpower to any noticeable impact (unbreakable kicks in), that is if it even works 50/50.

Yeah, I don't know, the math doesn't add up with this one (Willpower loss + Unbreakable).
Just do the spanking, I edited my post a few times as I remembered more details. Trust me it works and it doesn't take a long time in-game.
 
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