Ren'Py Completed Max's Life [Ch. 5 v0.55] [Kuggazer]

[YogSothoth1982]

Now , yes there was a time where the dev lost track of the game and kinda made the NTR OFF version feel very ntr-ish.
We are talking about the later part of Chapter 3 and the beginning parts of Chapter 4. Around this spam the game felt very bad even with NTR OFF option. It felt like the girls wanted to mess around with others and the way they talked suggested it too.

But around the half way point of Chapter 4, the dev fixed it. The girls after that become affectionate only with the MC again, and only him. No more suggestive talks about others or being horny for others.

Actually, as you've described it, I don't think I'll be interested in chapter 3 and possibly chapter 4 either.

Chapter 5 steps up its Romance game big time. Very nice improvements

Ok, maybe chapter 5 will interest me.

 

[Limited20]

Mate the latest update is literally an NTR update. Like more than half of the animations are just other dudes fucking your girls

What ? I played chapter 5 a few days ago, up the the date with Natalie. It was super sweet <3
I have yet to see any ntr. I rly hope you are wrong xd

Actually, as you've described it, I don't think I'll be interested in chapter 3 and possibly chapter 4 either.



Ok, maybe chapter 5 will interest me.

Yeah, the last half of chapter 3 and the first half of Chapter 4 , feel rly bad
Like the girls are thirsty for sex and the way the dialog and way its structured, it feels they want sex no matter from who. Think the dev tried to make it more "fun sex" type of thing, but it felt very bad. Felt like the romance was gone.
But the last half of Chapter 4 the dev made it better where the girls were only thirsty for the MC. Felt like the love was back.

Chapter 5 from what I have played is a improvement for the romance. The sweet date with Natalie, the spoiling moments with MC's mom <3
I hope it continues like this

 

[Kuggazer]

This is my save Dev, Plz Check whats wrong with it. I cant find those damn cigarettes and tanning oil at the market.

Sorry I didn't get the notification. tomorrow I'll check it and let you know .

 

[Kuggazer]

For those who hate the ntr part, although optional, my intention is to create a version completely without the sharing scenes. The whole game that includes all chapters, 1-5? with all possible fixes and improvements, including graphics(Especially the second chapter )

But for that you have to wait until the game is finished, of course.

 

[YogSothoth1982]

For those who hate the ntr part, although optional, my intention is to create a version completely without the sharing scenes. The whole game that includes all chapters, 1-5? with all possible fixes and improvements, including graphics(Especially the second chapter )

But for that you have to wait until the game is finished, of course.

The problem, in my opinion, is not that there is a sharing option (which can be disabled). Otherwise, in part of chapters 3 and 4, according to the opinion of at least a part of those who have deactivated sharing, it isn't pleasant to play if you don't like sharing because of the sensations they give. Personally I'm not very willing to play two and a half chapters to see if this is the case. So, having seen the comments, I decided to download chapter 5 and try that one without playing the before chapters.

 

[amant-interdit]

please I need help!!!

I'm stuck in the yatch, I only can see the movie scene. I don't know what to do I've talked to everyone in the yatch but nothing happen.

Stay awake in your room at night

 

[Kuggazer]

The problem, in my opinion, is not that there is a sharing option (which can be disabled). Otherwise, in part of chapters 3 and 4, according to the opinion of at least a part of those who have deactivated sharing, it isn't pleasant to play if you don't like sharing because of the sensations they give. Personally I'm not very willing to play two and a half chapters to see if this is the case. So, having seen the comments, I decided to download chapter 5 and try that one without playing the before chapters.

Yes, I understand. I don't know how it is to start as early as Chapter 5, but let me know anyway.
For anyone else who has played all the chapters, in the regular version, what bothered you that you never want to see again?
If you can give me a list of what bothered you, I would appreciate it.
If I can I might clean the full version of these scenes when the time comes.

 

[Joey's Conscience]

For those who hate the ntr part, although optional, my intention is to create a version completely without the sharing scenes. The whole game that includes all chapters, 1-5? with all possible fixes and improvements, including graphics(Especially the second chapter )

But for that you have to wait until the game is finished, of course.

Sorry, but since you're active again, and speaking on the subject, I'd like to ask you a question. Why don't the NTR-on and NTR-off have the same number of scenes anymore? I used to think you handled both routes really well (both choices get the same amount of content, NTR-on gets to choose before each scene). I understand that chosing for every scene would cause problems for the current story, so it had to be removed, but why does NTR-off get less content now?

Not trying to attack you or anything, just legitimely curious as to why that decision was made.

 

[Kuggazer]

Sorry, but since you're active again, and speaking on the subject, I'd like to ask you a question. Why don't the NTR-on and NTR-off have the same number of scenes anymore? I used to think you handled both routes really well (both choices get the same amount of content, NTR-on gets to choose before each scene). I understand that chosing for every scene would cause problems for the current story, so it had to be removed, but why does NTR-off get less content now?

Not trying to attack you or anything, just legitimely curious as to why that decision was made.

Hi, I honestly don't think there is more content with ntr on.
Can you give me some examples under spoiler, please?
Because I could be wrong(my memory sucks), but I think at most there are 3-4 extra scenes.
But precisely they are extras, written by some supporters.
They didn't take away space from the regular scenes.

 

[Bloodguard]

For anyone else who has played all the chapters, in the regular version, what bothered you that you never want to see again?

A couple thoughts off the top of my head. In Chapter 3 the redhead sister gets thirsty for other dudes. Even with NTR off, the dialogue with her indicates that Max is not enough for her anymore, and that she is looking elsewhere for some fun.
She also likes to bang some of Max's other ladies when he is not around.
Also, Alvin, I think? Max's friend who wants to bang his Mum. Even with NTR off they are hanging out in bed together almost naked for a lot of chapter 3. This is highly distressing for folks who don't want to share their ladies.

 

[Joey's Conscience]

A couple thoughts off the top of my head. In Chapter 3 the redhead sister gets thirsty for other dudes. Even with NTR off, the dialogue with her indicates that Max is not enough for her anymore, and that she is looking elsewhere for some fun.
She also likes to bang some of Max's other ladies when he is not around.
Also, Alvin, I think? Max's friend who wants to bang his Mum. Even with NTR off they are hanging out in bed together almost naked for a lot of chapter 3. This is highly distressing for folks who don't want to share their ladies.

Oh, you said you didn't play the latest update right? And you're not a fan of Alvin? Oh boy do I tell him or someone else wanna?

 

[Kuggazer]

A couple thoughts off the top of my head. In Chapter 3 the redhead sister gets thirsty for other dudes. Even with NTR off, the dialogue with her indicates that Max is not enough for her anymore, and that she is looking elsewhere for some fun.
She also likes to bang some of Max's other ladies when he is not around.
Also, Alvin, I think? Max's friend who wants to bang his Mum. Even with NTR off they are hanging out in bed together almost naked for a lot of chapter 3. This is highly distressing for folks who don't want to share their ladies.

I think I'm in really bad shape. I don't remember any of this
As soon as I have some free time I should replay it all over again.

The thing I remember well, is that the first two chapters don't have any "Weird" scenes

 

[Kuggazer]

However, really, tell me everything you don't like. Don't have any problem with it.
This will help me not to make any more mistakes for the other game.

 

[Bloodguard]

The thing I remember well, is that the first two chapters don't have any "Weird" scenes

This is true. Chapter 1 remaster is still my favorite chapter of the game. The slow build up to banging the family is great, and no hints of weirdness. Chapter 2 has other issues, most of them technical that have nothing to do with the story. I have tried to get through it multiple times and can never quite finish it. Though I have unlocked most of the scenes.

 

[Limited20]

However, really, tell me everything you don't like. Don't have any problem with it.
This will help me not to make any more mistakes for the other game.

Hmm going to the core issue is the NTR OFF option still feels ntr-ish is certain moments. Especially the later parts of Chapter 3 and the beginning parts of Chapter 4.
There are moments where the girls kinda thirst over others guys, this feels very bad.
Also al ot of moments where the girls are way too affectionate with Grandpa and the glasses dude (forgot his name, the cousin).
Many hugs with them and the girls. The dialog during these moments feels very sexually suggestive. There were a few times where the girls will sit in the Cousin's lap xd
Small things like this pile up and create a very uneasy feeling ... like the girls dont have eyes for the MC anymore, or are losing interest in him.
Needs more relationship dialog , like how Max and the girls reassure each other for their feelings.
There needs to be more romance/sweet moments between Max and the girls.

Alicia feels especially bad among the girls. In the 1st game she was like the Main Love interest and she was super sweet and affeactionate. But in chapter 3 and 4, she kind act indifferent towards Max. Its just a quick fuck between them from time to time, and thats it Alicia also is one of the girls that feels that she lost interest in the MC the most.

Next one has to be the second Aunt. There are some incredible romance moments between her and Max ... but there are also random sexually suggestive moments between her and her son (MC's cousin, the one with the galsses). This feels horrible when it happens.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Hmm going to the core issue is the NTR OFF option still feels ntr-ish is certain moments. Especially the later parts of Chapter 3 and the beginning parts of Chapter 4.
There are moments where the girls kinda thirst over others guys, this feels very bad.
Also al ot of moments where the girls are way too affectionate with Grandpa and the glasses dude (forgot his name, the cousin).
Many hugs with them and the girls. The dialog during these moments feels very sexually suggestive. There were a few times where the girls will sit in the Cousin's lap xd
Small things like this pile up and create a very uneasy feeling ... like the girls dont have eyes for the MC anymore, or are losing interest in him.
Needs more relationship dialog , like how Max and the girls reassure each other for their feelings.
There needs to be more romance/sweet moments between Max and the girls.

Alicia feels especially bad among the girls. In the 1st game she was like the Main Love interest and she was super sweet and affeactionate. But in chapter 3 and 4, she kind act indifferent towards Max. Its just a quick fuck between them from time to time, and thats it Alicia also is one of the girls that feels that she lost interest in the MC the most.

Next one has to be the second Aunt. There are some incredible romance moments between her and Max ... but there are also random sexually suggestive moments between her and her son (MC's cousin, the one with the galsses). This feels horrible when it happens.

dafuq dont have eyes for the MC?

I play the full game with ntr options on, and there was never a moment where the MC felt excluded - quite the contrary, most scenes make it clear he's the "top dog".

I guess you could make an argument that Sarah is more interested in Steve, but that made sense to me; she's his immediate relative in this whole incest fantasyland.

 

[Joey's Conscience]

Hi, I honestly don't think there is more content with ntr on.
Can you give me some examples under spoiler, please?
Because I could be wrong(my memory sucks), but I think at most there are 3-4 extra scenes.
But precisely they are extras, written by some supporters.
They didn't take away space from the regular scenes.

Just looking at the gallery alone, Ch 4 has 5 NTR-only scenes, and Ch 5 is already at 2, 2 updates in. So 7 total (just a quick check, might actually be more). Not to mention there are a few scenes where the NTR-off version is just a less content version of its NTR-on counterpart. For example Krystal x Max just last update, where NTR-on gets Alvin x Alice on top of it. So yeah, I'd say NTR-on gets a considerable amount more content.

Overall I's say Limited20 was spot on, there's a lot of small things that keep piling up, and I think it would be impossible to completely solve. On top of what he and Bloodguard said, I'd add Steves mom full naked hugging grandpa at the end of Ch 4 and you being forced to double team the blue haired PAWG girl with Steve, even with NTR-off. Minor character, but still

There are points where you can infer what is supposed to happen if you had NTR-on. Like Steve walking into an unsatisfied Max's mom in the bathroom.

What I say is that making kinks optional is rarely a perfect solution. You have to write your entire story and characters for these kinks to happen. Just removing the scenes often leads to inconsistencies in character behavior, things bleeding through, or a weird feeling for the player that realizes something is clearly missing.

 

[Joey's Conscience]

Also, on a completely unrelated note, why did you choose DAZ for your new game Kuggazer? You're one of the best HS devs on the site

 

[Kuggazer]

Also, on a completely unrelated note, why did you choose DAZ for your new game Kuggazer? You're one of the best HS devs on the site

For two reasons mainly. The first, it was my friend's choice, he is the one who wanted to develop this game.
The second is that many ideas we had in mind, were unrealizable with HS.
Think about imagining some fantasy creatures, like centaurs but also orcs or dwarves. With HS you are very limited in this area unfortunately.

 

[Bloodguard]

For two reasons mainly. The first, it was my friend's choice, he is the one who wanted to develop this game.
The second is that many ideas we had in mind, were unrealizable with HS.
Think about imagining some fantasy creatures, like centaurs but also orcs or dwarves. With HS you are very limited in this area unfortunately.

Another reason to go with Daz over HS, and the reason I assumed for the new game, is that you can put the game on Steam at some point. This allows you to make real money off the game, provided it's well received, which in turn gives you a lot more freedom in the Dev process.
Fantasy themed adult games tend to do quite well on Steam. I know Love of Magic has made a pile of money.