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[chinadude101]

That's wrong. Netorare is about the protagonist, the main character, being cheated on. That's it. It's not about the player cheating, or being raped, or whatever, it is specifically the person from whom the game or manga or anime or whatever is perceived from being cheated on by their partner, typically with them finding out. If the main character is stealing someone elses partner it's Netori, and if the main character themselves is cheating then it's just that. Cheating.

Of course that means that this game, regardless as to its title image, is not NTR.

Edit: Unless her boyfriend or whatever is sleeping with other girls of course.

Per the definition of NTR on Danbooru (while not the end all and be all of hentai, is still a relatively popular and reliable board):

"A form of cheating in which someone close to the protagonist is either willingly or unwillingly seduced and stolen away. This isn't necessarily limited to one's lover, but may also include friends, unrequited love interests, or even relatives.

NTR is intended to arouse feelings of jealousy, abandonment, hurt, and heartache, among other negative emotions. The narrative, dialogue, and such in these works often go the extra mile to incite and reinforce these emotions.

Closely related is netori/netoru (寝取り/寝取る). In this genre, the protagonist instead takes the lover of someone else. Also related is cuckolding, in which seeking out others is actively encouraged, even at the expense of the cuckold."

In this case, our protag is the unwitting target of unrequited love, therefore making this NTR.

 

[AtotehZ]

Keep getting this error when i try and play. Help

You may need the RTP:

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You'll want "RPG Maker VX Ace" for this game.
Getting MV as well won't hurt if you play many games on here.

 

[AtotehZ]

In this case, our protag is the unwitting target of unrequited love, therefore making this NTR.

Well, more like unfulfilled, since they actually love each other, but it still counts. A game like this is the very essence of NTR. People saying it's not is a problem if we want games tagged correctly without a constant uproar in the comments.

 

[Ancalador]

The Japanese netorare (寝取られ) translates to “to be taken off.” The term is often loosely translated as “cuckold” as well, which refers to the husband or boyfriend of an adulteress. These translations demonstrate the NTR genre’s emphasis on the feelings of the individual who was cheated on (not the feelings of the individual who cheated).

Don't think that just because a manga is Japanese that the author isn't also an idiot that doesn't understand what the word means.

 

[Deneuve]

Im surprised the good ending is actually a good ending.
Like the guy gets a chance to take down the evil rich family and everything.

 

[SiegH (KazeVongola)]

This IS NTR. You don't have to be cheating for it to be NTR. It's the jealousy and a character losing someone they love that matter. Tony is being NTR'd hard, it's pretty much half of what the game is about.

If you don't agree, expand your horizon. Look up stories with childhood friends and unfulfilled/unrequited love which is snatched away by another. They are ALWAYS tagged NTR on Japanese Manga sites.

If you were ever so in love with a girl it was painful and she started dating your classmate, friend or colleague instead. You've experienced NTR. That's what it's about.

EDIT: to be certain were on the same page. I'm talking the sites where the hentai manga is sold in Japan, not sites like nhentai or e-hentai. I've also been to the shops over there as well. I've been to shops in Akihabara that literally had some of the hentai I'd read online. It's commonly accepted that jealousy and losing love is what makes it NTR... and they'll tag anything that fulfills that criteria with it.

The interesting thing is that there are things tagged with NTR here on F95 that wouldn't fit the definition. A woman cheating on a guy wouldn't necessarily be considered NTR at all. Not unless she did it to make him feel bad, or the story is told in a way that shows him being knowingly or unknowingly hurt in the process. If she cheats on her man, but still is dutiful in her relationship and doesn't do it specifically to cause any harm, and he isn't hurt... not NTR.

If the man doesn't care if his woman fucks around... also not NTR. Because there's no love lost or jealousy.
(not caring is not the same as liking it, liking it is something else again)

Exactly! Very well said.
Even in this game:

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Honestly to me it sounds like western eroge/porn game enthusiasts are forcing their own cultural views on a genre that is clearly something unfamiliar to them. There is a term in the Japanese hentai scene called 浮気 (uwaki) meaning adultery/cheating which is a separate genre from the multiple netoru sub-genres: netori - from the villain's perspective (the taker), netorare - from the victim's perspective (the taken), netorase - cuck's perspective, who lets it happen. Thus NTR =/= cheating. And before anyone says "but this is an English forum", don't forget netoru is a Japanese word and the genre has Japanese origins (they obviously didn't invent the deed itself), so I think its appropriate to go with its intended (Japanese) meaning, even if it gained some popularity in the west since then. Also, to be clear, NTR and cheating can both happen in the same game.

As a wise alchemist Vtuber once said: "You can't have NTR without true love".

 

[AtotehZ]

Exactly! Very well said.
Even in this game:

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Honestly to me it sounds like western eroge/porn game enthusiasts are forcing their own cultural views on a genre that is clearly something unfamiliar to them. There is a term in the Japanese hentai scene called 浮気 (uwaki) meaning adultery/cheating which is a separate genre from the multiple netoru sub-genres: netori - from the villain's perspective (the taker), netorare - from the victim's perspective (the taken), netorase - cuck's perspective, who lets it happen. Thus NTR =/= cheating. And before anyone says "but this is an English forum", don't forget netoru is a Japanese word and the genre has Japanese origins (they obviously didn't invent the deed itself), so I think its appropriate to go with its intended (Japanese) meaning, even if it gained some popularity in the west since then. Also, to be clear, NTR and cheating can both happen in the same game.

As a wise alchemist Vtuber once said: "You can't have NTR without true love".

Thank you for the translation.

 

[Desan3]

Thank you so much. I have played japanese version too many times I really appreciate the translate of this but please translate "Sayoko The Summer of Wishing to Stars" too.

 

[Behemoth19]

ok so its a NTR unavoidable game. for you whinners. hey you know what I DONT LIKE SCAT,yet i dont go on scat game to bitch about, so gtfo. that being said. its a nice game, i mean its not grinding,witch its often rare.and good translation. censored tho....well. i enjoyed it.

 

[AtotehZ]

ok so its a NTR unavoidable game. for you whinners. hey you know what I DONT LIKE SCAT,yet i dont go on scat game to bitch about, so gtfo. that being said. its a nice game, i mean its not grinding,witch its often rare.and good translation. censored tho....well. i enjoyed it.

If you wanna grind even less in RPG MV and Ace games I can give you some tools to speedrun.
It cuts down on the speed between scenes significantly in some games.

There are 2 options for RPG MV.. I like option 1 better, but sometimes it makes the game freeze. You'll notice this very early if it's the case. Then you can switch to option 2.

 

[Mistrek]

Good game but the Tony`s point of view parts are annoying. They make the scenes unnecessairly long and add nothing

 

[AtotehZ]

Good game but the Tony`s point of view parts are annoying. They make the scenes unnecessairly long and add nothing

Agreed that they could either be used for more or be made as cut-scenes otherwise. Controlling Tony does make it a bit more personal though, so I'd rather they made his playtime more meaningful.

 

[Shiro39]

whoever translated this and put that Translator Notes, man... such effort and time you put into the game
I haven't played it yet tho but I hope it's going to be good, let's just see...

 

[JD Dark]

can't play it says missing cursor 2 in SE

 

[sinfulpleasures]

How do I go into options to save/load/etc?

 

[AtotehZ]

How do I go into options to save/load/etc?

You usually use Z and X OR
ENTER and Numpad 0 to play.
You can also use something like

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to use a controller whichever way you want.

 

[houta019]

you need to downlaod and install the correct runtime pkg. Some devs don't pack it with their games.

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thanks

 

[sinfulpleasures]

You usually use Z and X OR
ENTER and Numpad 0 to play.
You can also use something like

You must be registered to see the links

to use a controller whichever way you want.

Z, X and enter do work to interact with objects, but I can't open the menu with any button including ESC ... so I can't really save/load the game?

 

[AtotehZ]

Z, X and enter do work to interact with objects, but I can't open the menu with any button including ESC ... so I can't really save/load the game?

Said in another way.
Z and Enter interacts with objects.
X and Numpad0 opens the menu. Here you can save or change clothes, not load. Loading is done from the main menu.
A hotkey to get to the main menu fast is F12.
You've never been able to open the menu while in a cutscene or dialogue.

 

[sinfulpleasures]

Said in another way.
Z and Enter interacts with objects.
X and Numpad0 opens the menu. Here you can save or change clothes, not load. Loading is done from the main menu.
A hotkey to get to the main menu fast is F12.
You've never been able to open the menu while in a cutscene or dialogue.

Perfect ... thank you.
I guess I was trying during cutscene. Works perfect now. Thanks.