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Comics Collection Melissa N. Collection [2024-06-23] [Melissa N.]
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- Jun 12, 2017
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Yes, very promising. I always prefer it in a forcedfem story when as few people as possible are aware a forced feminization is taking place.
- Dec 1, 2023
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Doesn't this point to Minji being further down the villain route? I thought that was the opposite of what you wanted.
- Jun 12, 2017
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It was a surprise twist that I didn't see coming. Yes, it could (maybe) vilify Minji more but as long as she is doing it to turn Nick/Nabi-ya into her idealized love interest, I'm fine with that. Dominant mistresses need loving too! What I am not a big fan of would be for her to go through all of this trouble just to push him into the arms of someone else. That type of story is more enjoyable for a bad protagonist, someone who deserves it or kind of does it to themselves. Not a perfect example but sort of like - Switching Gears to Dresses and Heels Part 6, a self-inflicted situation. Just my personal tastes.
- Dec 5, 2023
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I liked the last episode of switching gears because at one point the man playing his sister looked like he was going to end any possible relationship until he opened his mouth about the damage Luciano was doing to the car's transmission which proves that "she" wasn't an airhead after all. So instead of getting out of Luciano's clutches (s)he is deeper into them. Up until then the story was a little contrived with a car mechanic dressing up as a girl to have a drive in a rare performance car, crashing said car because he didn't service the brakes properly, ending up in hospital where he ends up receiving Facial Feminisation Surgery after getting injured in the car crash. then of course when the bandages come of he's a cute looking girl with no bruising or scars. This is my first post here. I am a TG story writer and my stuff can be read in Fictionmania
Since we've gone pretty off-topic I have to ask, are you the Elaine who wrote Plastic Surgery on FM? That was one dark story. If it is indeed you, allow me to recommend your two-parter My way to womanhood, a story I feel is in the same kind of story RedRyder did AI art for, over on the old forum. And if a different Elaine wrote those stories... well... awkward.
Either way, thanks to the update on kemono I updated the OP to include parts 2 and 3 from chapter 7 of A K-Pop Idol.
- Dec 5, 2023
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yes i wrote both of those stories - i would like to do more stories using AI in the future . i am still finding my feet so to speak using images in the text.
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- Jul 25, 2021
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For me, I've got different kinks. But broadly, I prefer (even in a forced situation) for 1) the characters, particularly the main character, to have as much agency as possible. And 2) don't have too large of a leap in logic, or at least doesn't call attention to them.
For K-pop, I'm a bit conflicted. I think having a language barrier does allow for some amount of "lost in communication". And it's perfectly reasonable that people would converse each other in their native tongue, and this gives us the opportunity for unaware parties to be involved in the transformation. But at the same time, by explicitly calling attention to it, it's super bizzare to me that someone seems so accepting that a person is trying to change their race. The original excuse, of being part of a disguise, in this context makes WAY more sense to me.
I'm hoping the story is still going in this direction, but what I would have liked to see is that each of the three girls has a different motivation to feminize Nick, with them not necessarily being fully aware of the goals of the other two, but the ultimate goal (Nick being feminized), aligning. For example, if it was that all 3 believed Nick was trying to disguise himself, but one girl finds a feminized/sissified man sexually arousing, one thinks Nick would help their odds as an Idol Group, and one was actually getting paid to do it by the gang (or whatever other reasons they might have of wanting to feminize Nick)... Meanwhile, Nick himself is commiting to the feminization because he does think his life is in danger... Then every character involved is actively pursuing their own goals, maximizing each character's agency. Really hoping the other two women won't end up as just passive accomplicies in Minji's plans.
That said, what I'm looking forward to the most with K-pop (and hoping to see more of so far) are Nick crossdressing in more workout outfits and idol costumes. Lots of feminization stories jump really quickly to short mini skirts/dresses. Which are fine and of course I like them too. But I'm looking forward to more tight pants, booty shorts, and leggings, bustier and mesh tops. If we got anything close to Ahri's K/DA outfit (frankly any of them, although the black and white one is *chef's kiss*), I'd be very happy.
- Feb 8, 2022
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It seems like Melissa always had to have a weird quirk in the stories, some work some are just meh, others are just story breaking. I agree the race transformation is a little far fetched. Just having Nick start as an Asian-American would have made it a lot better, but again, Melissa N.
I like this. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised if the other girls are people that Minji has transformed.
I'll be happy has long as things stay somewhat realistic, unlike Aphrodite's Mirror which has been garbage since halfway through: Breast that are bigger than the characters body, and morphing into some weird agism fantasy, with the story in shambles and not making any sense.
I do agree with that - it is odd that the Korean girls don't seem to think the race change thing is particularly strange.
I don't see that it's far-fetched - some Caucasian people have gotten eyelid surgery to make themselves look Asian (although it's true it's not very convincing). I'm a fan of race/culture change elements in tg stories, when they're done well.
The one thing I dislike about all Melissa's recent stories is that despite them sometimes being over a thousand panels long the protagonist's change from looking 100% male to 100% attractive female is always incredibly sudden, and it always ruins the believability for me.
Look at the protagonist's physical changes in A Kpop Idol Chapter 5 Part 1 that supposedly happened after 2 weeks, it's completely story breaking for me.
- Dec 1, 2023
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Race change is a fetish, just like gender change and age progression/regression. Having Nick start off Asian would defeat the purpose- might as well have him start out as a woman. All of these fetishes are largely within the realm of sci-fi. I imagine most of us are here for the gender change, so we're willing to look past a lot of stuff that doesn't reflect reality. It's really no different for age and race.
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That doesn't mean it should be in the story. It also doesn't change the fact that it's unrealistic compared to the context presented: setting/time/framework. It's world breaking. Nice straw man though.
- Jul 25, 2021
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I think I've mentioned it before, but race change as a fetish can be up my alley as long as it "commits" to what it's trying to be. If it's a part of a "degradation" story, then I'm fine with using stereotypes or racist caricature, because it's not meant to depict a "normal" or "positive" end result. Just like how bimbofication isn't meant to be representative of how blondes "should be". Conversely, if the change is well integrated into the story. For instance, it's meant to be part of the identity loss and really help emphasize how completely changed the person is, then I'm fine with it as well. The various OTTII stories generally execute a blend of these ideas well, using the race change as both part of the identity loss, and as part of the change in status (some lack of research notwithstanding).
Really, the only times it bothers me is when the writer is clearly just actually racist and using erotica as a pretense to jerk off to their fetish of being part of a "superior race". Or, when the writer is writing and acting as if they've done their homework, but all their attempts at writing a different culture are so laughably out of touch it becomes downright insulting.
My only issue with K-pop idol's race change again just how the other girls are reacting to it.
Yeah, it's bits of dialogue like this in MelissaN's works that stick out to me. Often, these aren't even necessary for the plot, but they introduce almost a bit of "uncanny valley" to the stories, in that the characters don't behave and feel like people.
Take A (high-heeled) journey to the unknown, pages 95-96. A well educated professor sees the person they were working with who was trying to learn more about her culture has changed race and is more than passably female (and acting happy and saying they're happy). Rather than being more concerned, she threatens said person and then decides to fake said person's death. Why are these lines in here? What well off professor would jeopardize their career and standing to fake a person's death on such a random whim? She finds the transformation surprising, but apparently doesn't seem to find it impossible. In which case, if this is a setting where something like this isn't that far fetched, then why would she feel like she needs to fake his death? It's just so utterly bizzare to go from "Oh, wow. You're black and a woman now." to "Well, guess what, I've decided that I'm gonna strand you here by faking your death".
- Dec 1, 2023
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If you're writing a race change fetish story, then yes, the race change needs to be in the story. Melissa clearly has a race change fetish (or is making a concerted effort to cater to people who do) since she's done several stories like this:
- A (High-Heeled) Journey to the Unknown: white to black
- All He Wants for Christmas (Whether He Knows It or Not): white to black
- He's Turned Into a Latina Girl: white to hispanic
- La Nueva Chica: white to hispanic
- Need for Speed: white to east asian
- Stripping His Problems Away: white to hispanic
Personally, I'm just here for the gender change. I'm pretty neutral on race change and age progression (as long as the character remains attractive). Those aspects of the story are easy for me to ignore so that others who enjoy that stuff can do so in peace.
Edit, and totally unrelated: Holy shit, LadyBoyJay, did you see today's NNN page?
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- Jun 1, 2021
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I dunno about everyone else, but I don't get too hung up about how "realistic" stuff is in real world terms. I kind of separate it into magic, sci-fi and "erm, sorta real world". I don't have a problem with any of these. Personally I'm in it for the inner monologue of the character and how they react to (admittedly unrealistic, ridiculous) circumstances.
I enjoy the storytelling, but ultimately I'm in it to get my dick hard. If the story is shitty and disjointed enough to give me a flop-on, then I'll drop out. I guess it all just comes down to what you expect from niche erotica. It's all an insane venn diagram of aligning kinks and finding what works.
TLDR: Ultimately my knob is the arbitor of porny stuff. This shit works for me.
- Jul 25, 2021
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Totally get where you're coming from. It's funny, there's a few authors that have the most godawful grammer and writing in general, but they've come up with some kinky scenarios and role swaps that I do find hot.
I've made this rant before, so apologies for those that have already seen these talking points on the old forum.
For me, how distracting something is correlates to how much the story it into attention. For example, early fictionmania stories loved to talk about size 76ZZZ sized breasts and how walking in heels you should walk "toe-heel". It was silly nonsense that you could tell came from people who'd never bothered to do a google search or even have tried crossdressing themselves. To a similar extent, last few years I keep seeing sissification stories where it tries to justify how chastity is supposed to help hide a bulge in skin tight clothing. From first hand experience: No, it can't! Surprise surprise, you lock a hard, undeformable piece of plastic or metal around your ball sack: guess what's no longer flexible enough to tuck away?!
I get it: not everyone has the time, freedom, income, situation where they can actually experiment with what they're discussing. And I also totally get "rule of sexy". There should totally be breaks from reality to facilitate the erotic nature of the work. Of course in erotic fiction, men can get hard again immediately after cumming, everyone can coordinate their orgasms perfectly, and the plot seems to bend to get to the sex.
But my main gripe is the same one I apply to fantasy, scifi, or action movies. If you introduce something, you should be consistent about it. I don't care that it's not "realistic/physical possible" to dodge a bullet at super speed. But if you're gonna introduce that ability, then you damn well better not have that character get caught off guard by a regular human speed punch (or have a damn good justification for it). Or if you introduce a plot point, as an author, you're the one that decided to introduce that into continuity.
And if you do break from reality, it should be a conscious decision, not because you don't know how things actually work. Otherwise, to a person who does know how things do work, it can be distracting at best, and cringe at worst. In those instances, they would have been better off just skipping those details, rather than make it obvious that they have no idea what they're talking about (residual triggering from trying to correct Tokyo Bound, lol)
To be fair to MelissaN, most of my above complaints don't apply to her. Generally, it's the way she handles her characters and their motivations that dissapoint me. And not in the "I didn't find that sexy", as much as often the sexiness was imo sabotaged by missed opportunities. A (not) so temporary roomate has one of the (imo) hottest before and after transformations, but it ends with such a weird non-ending where Destiny just gets gaslit a bit more. Maybe it's just me, but I would have found it hotter if the story committed to an ending. Like if Destiny preferred men now and didn't care about getting back with Sara, or as a fuck you to Sara, Destiny admitted she liked being a woman and decided to tell Steve everything. Or as a fuck you to her family, Sara decided to re-seduce Destiny to screw over the brother she hates. I dunno, just something to show that outside of the physical progression, there was a point to this change.
- Jun 1, 2021
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I get where you're coming from. Everyone's immersion break point is different. I personally don't like those fictionmania stories where it's all "kazaam, now you are a fuckin sexy big boob bim" myself either. But I don't think they have no worth. I'm just some fat guy who likes wanking.
I think the break point between hot and jolting out is always different for everyone.
For example, the whole chastity thing. I have no experience with that at all, nor will I ever. It's a hot fantasy but if I ever tried it I'd chew down the fucking walls. Doesn't stop me from finding the idea of it hot, and if the story says it hides a bulge then I'm in. Now obviously that isn't your lived experience, so you can't jibe with that and it's admittedly an unrealistic story point. Does that mean that it shouldn't be there?
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I think, heavy on think, Melissa agrees with your last part here - she seemed to indicate she was tired of the stories like temporary roommate precisely because they were formulaic, pretty much the same story arc with just different settings. Guy gets tricked into girl clothes, progresses thru more extreme looks, hooks up with guy, story ends.
Her current stories are aiming at something bigger and hopefully can invite some different and more interesting plots and endings. Im ok with not liking every story an author does if they are trying for something different rather than sticking to the same formula, where I can guess each step before it happens.