Comics Collection Melissa N. Collection [2025-09-19] [Melissa N.]

[rebirth095]

I always find it odd that love gets replaced by a curiosity for a dick in similar stories.

That part I can follow, but what usually is underdeveloped are the accompanying reactions. An un-feminized man who loves his wife could just as easily be tempted by a hot woman, or distracted from his marriage by some other passion. Wouldn't be the first time a husband was chewed out by the wife for being late or missing an appointment over something sports/car/hobby/etc related.

But as I said, the part that usually is underdeveloped in stories is the reactions. The feminized man is cheating when having sex with a man. Whether with or without encouragement from the wife, that's what's happening. So the characters should respond appropriately. Often they don't. The wife being gleeful can make sense if getting rid of her husband is the goal, but then, there should be a greater sense of betrayal from the feminized husband. And that's almost always undersold in "realistic" type stories.

 

[misseva88]

Part 2 of K-Pop Idol Chapter 15 is out and can not only be found

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but also in the OP.

 

[Thalantyr]

This part has another example of Minji's seemingly contradictory behavior I was talking about. She had no problem abusing/humiliating Nabi herself, to the point of acting indifferent when Nabi asked if she wanted her to kill herself, but now she doesn't want the coach/trainer to bully her for some reason? I still can't figure out what her actual goal is. Does she actually care about Nabi or not? It's hard to imagine this story going the lesbian route, but a strange possibility does exist.

 

[misseva88]

This part has another example of Minji's seemingly contradictory behavior I was talking about. She had no problem abusing/humiliating Nabi herself, to the point of acting indifferent when Nabi asked if she wanted her to kill herself, but now she doesn't want the coach/trainer to bully her for some reason? I still can't figure out what her actual goal is. Does she actually care about Nabi or not? It's hard to imagine this story going the lesbian route, but a strange possibility does exist.

"I can hate my siblings, but god forbid someone else hates them".

 

[rebirth095]

This part has another example of Minji's seemingly contradictory behavior I was talking about. She had no problem abusing/humiliating Nabi herself, to the point of acting indifferent when Nabi asked if she wanted her to kill herself, but now she doesn't want the coach/trainer to bully her for some reason? I still can't figure out what her actual goal is. Does she actually care about Nabi or not? It's hard to imagine this story going the lesbian route, but a strange possibility does exist.

Like misseva alludes to, I can understand and be on board with the double standard. But I do think that where it falls apart for me is what the end goal here is.

Ok, so Minji feels "I'm the only one who gets to humiliate you"... To what end...? Like, if you wanted to dominate over and breakdown a "pet", why bring her along to such an exposed role?

Not to mention, the power dynamics aren't making sense to me. Why would Minji have any power over the trainer anyway? If they're all trying to succeed in this idol business, Minji is basically just barely above Nabi in pecking order.

Unless Minji secretly is quite high up in the hierarchy. In which case, the dynamics still are just a bit weird to me. Just brainstorming, but if Minji actually has quite a bit of connections, what would have made more sense to me is if Minji was dominant but "sweet" to Nabi, while behind the scenes, encouraging the trainers to up their cruelty and break Nabi down. That way, Nabi becomes dependent on Minji, and more receptive to the forceful but less cruel mistress. While at the exact same time, due to fearing her trainers, becoming increasingly receptive to doubling down on her feminization training. Especially if that's something her "ally" is whispering in her ear. "Be a good girl, and everything will be better".

But you're right: Minji kind of blew that opportunity to go that route by "unmasking" way too early. Now that said, I was rooting for her (or really, any character) to be more upfront about their intent. If she's going to feminize someone, I was tired of beating around the really obvious bush. The current setup could be still making Minji to Nabi the "lesser of two evils", but as I said, the power dyanmics are a bit confusing to me.

 

[Thalantyr]

Like misseva alludes to, I can understand and be on board with the double standard. But I do think that where it falls apart for me is what the end goal here is.

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with writing the character this way, I'm just curious about how it will be explained later, because it is a bit odd.

Not to mention, the power dynamics aren't making sense to me. Why would Minji have any power over the trainer anyway? If they're all trying to succeed in this idol business, Minji is basically just barely above Nabi in pecking order.

Unless Minji secretly is quite high up in the hierarchy. In which case, the dynamics still are just a bit weird to me.

The way Minji talks to the doctor and the fact that she's lying about Nabi to the other two members of their group seems to imply that she is more connected than a mere frontwoman of a k-pop group should be. She must have something else going on.

 

[rebirth095]

The way Minji talks to the doctor and the fact that she's lying about Nabi to the other two members of their group seems to imply that she is more connected than a mere frontwoman of a k-pop group should be. She must have something else going on.

Just feels weird that she's "connected", but is slumming through the lower ranks too. I guess, part of what throws me off is if she's going to be "reigning in" the trainers, then... it's kind of removing a big part of the premise that is appealing to me. I was looking forward to Idol bootcamp. Heck, I wouldn't have even minded if Minji got an ego check and that's what built towards a lesbian ending. Just kinda feel like there's themes working at odds with each other.

 

[DREAMPOWERREAL]

That dinner happens after this, so Marina is not forgetting. It's Andrew/Elena who somehow forgets by the time of that dinner, which is a day or two in the future, that these hospital conversations happened.

 

[misseva88]

Part 3 for A Bestie in the Making is uploaded to the first post of the thread and can also be found

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[Samantha Emberlyn]

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[rebirth095]

Assuming the accountant is fully truthful here:

Unless we're just running to the final confrontation, I predict that one of the twists we'll get is that Nikos will claim that the insurance was always the plan: Having a fake wife is easier to fake her death since she wasn't real to begin with: Elena just goes back to being Andrew. But "he didn't count on falling in love" or something like that, and that'll be the other twist we get (whether or not you believe him...).

Regardless, we still never got the backstory as to why the old guy with the glasses (I just can't remember these minor characters anymore) thought that knowing more about Nikos would make Elena get back together with him. Seems to me, that's still to come, and will be part of the next twist.

 

[Thalantyr]

Assuming the accountant is fully truthful here

I'm still not buying it. I'd like to see some evidence that doesn't come directly from some guy who just showed up in the story out of the blue at the exact same time it was revealed that Seferi has a partner we haven't met yet.

Also, whether he's Andreadis or not, disclosing a client's sensitive financial information to a third party is super illegal in most jurisdictions. I assume that would include Greece. Moraitis is fully aware that Nikos and Elena are not legally married, so she shouldn't be in the room at all, and it's also highly unlikely that Nikos would have authorized his daughters to have access to his accounts if he was running all kinds of nefarious shit behind their backs.

 

[rebirth095]

I'm still not buying it. I'd like to see some evidence that doesn't come directly from some guy who just showed up in the story out of the blue at the exact same time it was revealed that Seferi has a partner we haven't met yet.

Also, whether he's Andreadis or not, disclosing a client's sensitive financial information to a third party is super illegal in most jurisdictions. I assume that would include Greece. Moraitis is fully aware that Nikos and Elena are not legally married, so she shouldn't be in the room at all, and it's also highly unlikely that Nikos would have authorized his daughters to have access to his accounts if he was running all kinds of nefarious shit behind their backs.

All that is entirely reasonable and I totally see that. Of course, the flip side would be: why tell such an easily dis-proven lie?

I'll note though, I highly doubt this guy is Seferi's partner, mainly because this doesn't align with what we know of Seferi's plans. Seferi is out for revenge against Toska. He needs the wedding to go through. So making Elena and the family more distrustful of Nikos doesn't align with what he's hoping to accomplish.

If anything, this is more in line with Seferi's partner's motivations. To hurt Nikos, having his heart broken, his financial plans sabotaged, and becoming estranged with his loving daughters would fit pretty well. Of course, this means that the partner has gone rogue and figures he's going to get his revenge, Seferi's needs be damned. Which isn't necessarily unreasonable if you're Seferi's partner, and you're looking at how this entire situation has gone completely off the rails.

 

[Thalantyr]

All that is entirely reasonable and I totally see that. Of course, the flip side would be: why tell such an easily dis-proven lie?

Which lie are we talking about? Most of what Moraitis has revealed could only be disproven by Nikos' accountant or Nikos himself, who is currently missing. If Moraitis is responsible for Nikos being missing and is confident that he'll stay that way, then it's safe to lie about him. Or perhaps he's just trying to sow enough distrust amongst his family that they won't believe him when he returns. He did conveniently paint all 3 of the Samaras ladies as Nikos' victims, perhaps so they'll unite against him.

I'll note though, I highly doubt this guy is Seferi's partner, mainly because this doesn't align with what we know of Seferi's plans. Seferi is out for revenge against Toska. He needs the wedding to go through. So making Elena and the family more distrustful of Nikos doesn't align with what he's hoping to accomplish.

I'll admit, I don't understand the Toska plan at all. Has that even been explained yet? If so, I forget what the plan is. I don't know how this wedding factors into anything, so I can't say if this aligns with Seferi's goals or not.

If anything, this is more in line with Seferi's partner's motivations. To hurt Nikos, having his heart broken, his financial plans sabotaged, and becoming estranged with his loving daughters would fit pretty well. Of course, this means that the partner has gone rogue and figures he's going to get his revenge, Seferi's needs be damned. Which isn't necessarily unreasonable if you're Seferi's partner, and you're looking at how this entire situation has gone completely off the rails.

But all that still works if Moraitis is Andreadis, correct? Plus Seferi did kinda threaten him the last time they spoke on the phone, so perhaps a rift is forming...

 

[rebirth095]

Which lie are we talking about?

Lie was the wrong word: I meant more so "casting doubt on yourself by doing something illegal that would set of red flags in the people you're trying to trick" in this scenario.

Has that even been explained yet? If so, I forget what the plan is. I don't know how this wedding factors into anything, so I can't say if this aligns with Seferi's goals or not.

Apologies for not wanting to dig through and grab all the pages, but the plan is:

- There's apparently a line in their agreement that Toska will attend Nikos' wedding when he has it. I genuinely can't remember why this would be in that agreement, nor how the hell it even came up considering the cover story is that Nikos and Elena are a loving traditional couple.

- Seferi has set up Toska to be framed for some kind of crime in Greece. I don't think we explicitly know what this crime is.

- As such, Seferi's plan involves having this wedding go through so Toska will show up and thus be in the jurisdiction to be arrested in Greece.



If this seems a bit "Underwear Gnomes", I don't disagree. But this is what we've been told so far.

But all that still works if Moraitis is Andreadis, correct?

Yes, sorry I wasn't clear in splitting my thoughts:

If they're now working in opposition, then Moraitis being Andreadis or aligned with Andreadis is likely.

The main thing I'm saying is that given what we know, Maristis isn't behaving in a way that makes him seem to be aligned with Seferi. What he's currently doing is opposite of what we know of Seferi's plan. With the rift though... is that enough time to set this up? The rift seems somewhat recent. Of course, maybe this paperwork doesn't have to be anywhere near authentic as Elena and the sisters seem to constantly just believe the last person that talks to them.

 

[Thalantyr]

- There's apparently a line in their agreement that Toska will attend Nikos' wedding when he has it. I genuinely can't remember why this would be in that agreement, nor how the hell it even came up considering the cover story is that Nikos and Elena are a loving traditional couple.

Okay... still trying to wrap my head around this Toska plan. In the scene you just linked, Sofia mentions the "pre-signed contract" which somehow requires Toska to show up for the wedding (or "vow renewal"). Or rather, reading her exact wording, it seems like he just has to come back at some point to complete the deal, not necessarily for the wedding, but the wedding would be the most opportune time I guess? This still seems fuzzy.

But more importantly, Sofia also mentions the pre-signed contract in this most recent update, and Moraitis says there is no contract. So if Moraitis is telling the truth, that means that Seferi's plan is already blown, or it never required this contract to begin with. If Moraitis is lying, that seems to heavily imply that he's Andreadis, right? It would seem outrageously convoluted if Moraitis represented yet another faction and he's just lying for his own purposes.

Also, wtf is a pre-signed contract? It's either signed or it's not, right? Why is Melissa so deliberate in this distinction? Would it have changed the story at all if she just said that Nikos and Toska signed a contract?

 

[rebirth095]

Okay... still trying to wrap my head around this Toska plan. In the scene you just linked, Sofia mentions the "pre-signed contract" which somehow requires Toska to show up for the wedding (or "vow renewal"). Or rather, reading her exact wording, it seems like he just has to come back at some point to complete the deal, not necessarily for the wedding, but the wedding would be the most opportune time I guess? This still seems fuzzy.

But more importantly, Sofia also mentions the pre-signed contract in this most recent update, and Moraitis says there is no contract. So if Moraitis is telling the truth, that means that Seferi's plan is already blown, or it never required this contract to begin with. If Moraitis is lying, that seems to heavily imply that he's Andreadis, right? It would seem outrageously convoluted if Moraitis represented yet another faction and he's just lying for his own purposes.

Also, wtf is a pre-signed contract? It's either signed or it's not, right? Why is Melissa so deliberate in this distinction? Would it have changed the story at all if she just said that Nikos and Toska signed a contract?

Regarding the "pre-signed" thing. I think it's one of three things. Either

1) It's a slight goof and meant to mean "they had a previously signed contract", or a pre-contract. As in, there was a contract preceding the main contract/deal that they'd already signed off on. Basically something like, "Hey, here's a contract that says we'll do XYZ business together. As part of this agreement, we agree to have ABC standards." And the new contract/deal that Nikos is hoping to close is a more lucrative one.

2) It's meant to show that Sofia doesn't understand the legalese as well as she should and she's wrong and doesn't know it.

3) It actually meant to be "pre-signed" and it's indicating that one person signed before presenting it to the other. So compared to a contract where both people are present and sign "simultaneously", it would something like Party A comes ready with a contract that they've signed showing they're happy with. Party B reads through it and if they agree with it, they sign it. Hence, pre-signed.

So in this context, I guess it could mean Toska came with a contract he was satisfied with and signed it. Now that it's in Nikos' hands, it's basically a guarantee that Toska must follow through or risk litigation for not abiding by him signing the contract.

 

[misseva88]

Assuming the accountant is fully truthful here:

Who knows if he is. Elena getting a phone call during all this tells me it's Nikos trying to reach her and he will share a different side to the story, once again casting doubt on all this.

The one thing I do believe the accountant on is his three possibilities. That smells like the author talking to us to narrow things down. Other than that? Who knows what to believe.

 

[Alicia Mae]

I agree. The three options feel like narrowing things down for us a bit.

A million euro life insurance life policy for Elena sounds like the most obvious red herring to me. Nikos is being set up as a bad guy at the end of this chapter, but I suspect it’ll be revealed that he’s used the last of his money to make sure his wife is safe, because she is what he treasures more than anything in this world. (Or something cheesy like that lol) The wedding planner made it sound like they’ll end up together, and I’m inclined to think the same. Hard for them to do that if Nikos wants Elena dead lol.

 

[Stevedore100]

This is, once again, all very confusing - I can't add anything useful to the tangled contract/not a contract mess.
However ...... If the accountant is truthful here, Marina really really really screwed Andrew over. She feels guilty for what she did to get Andrew so deep in this mess, then hatched a plan to at least give him a happy life with Nikos, and then Nikos is a steaming pile of shit? I just can't see Melissa going in that direction.
Otter points - the money to Joanna - Nikos funding the surgeries? Blackmail?
And the insurance policy - Elena is not Nikos'wife - I am fairly certain you can't take out a policy on a potential spouse. Could Joanna be the secret wife from years ago? Maybe he has hatched a plan for Joanna to take her death so they can collect the insurance and save Nikos' empire?

I am still amazed that this story is somehow more confusing than it was a few chapters ago when it was a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma. Yet here we are. Unfortunately there's no butler to pin this on.